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No more scratchers for me. No more.

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Posted: February 21, 2016, 10:45 am - IP Logged

Odds on both scratch offs and draw games both suck. In this state, the state returns only 50% of money spent to players, it's the same on both types of games.  If the odds were the most important thing to me, I would go to a casino or OTB.  Even though it's not mathmatically sound reasoning,  I care more about the risk/reward ratio.   $1 or $2 risk for $$$$$$$$$$$$.

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    Posted: February 22, 2016, 11:25 am - IP Logged

    Since Oklahoma highest scratch-off is $5 for $40,000-$50,000. I would rather just buy a Power Ball/ Mega/Hot Lotto.

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      Posted: February 22, 2016, 11:33 am - IP Logged

      Since Oklahoma highest scratch-off is $5 for $40,000-$50,000. I would rather just buy a Power Ball/ Mega/Hot Lotto.

      That's my reasoning for only scratching once in a great while, too.

      The $1 to $10 scratch offs here are not life changing amounts.  Once in a while we get one that pays $250K but it will cost $25 or $30.  I'd rather spend that $$ on several chances at a bigger payoff.

      Now, if I lived somewhere with a scratch off that had a couple million dollar top prizes, I might spring for a couple tickets because the odds are usually so much better than the draw games.

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        Posted: February 22, 2016, 1:00 pm - IP Logged

        Most scratchers have worse odds than a 1 in 1,000 pick-3 straight hit odds of winning. No thanks.

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          Posted: February 22, 2016, 4:12 pm - IP Logged

          That's my reasoning for only scratching once in a great while, too.

          The $1 to $10 scratch offs here are not life changing amounts.  Once in a while we get one that pays $250K but it will cost $25 or $30.  I'd rather spend that $$ on several chances at a bigger payoff.

          Now, if I lived somewhere with a scratch off that had a couple million dollar top prizes, I might spring for a couple tickets because the odds are usually so much better than the draw games.

          I 'm with you HoLeeKau.  DH and I usually buy a few scratch-offs when we go to Texas since they have life changing games/amounts.

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            Posted: February 23, 2016, 9:50 am - IP Logged

            I like to buy the $20 tickets and scratch them slowly - no more than 1 number per day.  A ticket lasts me at least 3 weeks and usually much longer.  If I scratch a winning number I take even longer.  It may take some will power to take your time but I like to think I might have a couple million bucks waiting for me at home.

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              Posted: February 23, 2016, 2:27 pm - IP Logged

               The real problem was that I saw the scratcher tickets as the escape route from the rat race. Fortunately I eventually burned out.

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                Posted: February 23, 2016, 3:42 pm - IP Logged

                 For the last 5 months I blew up wads of cash on scratchers. And two days ago I finally realized that I was burning the cash.

                 In a way, scratchers are whole lot harder to win than draw games since you have to buy the ticket from a right location at a right time period. 

                 If I did not spend my money on scratchers, I could have saved a couple thousand bucks to get a nice laptop to study on the go. 

                 I will just stick with draw games. No more scratcher games for me.

                Good choice to quit scratchers. The odds are NOT in your favor. The game may say overall odd are 1-5 are less, but that means for prizes of $100 or less. While it is true that somebody is going to win big, it most likely Won't be you. Should you feel the need to win INSTANTLY, I suggest going into the store and playing your five or ten dollars on quick pick-4 boxes shortly before the midday or evening draws. This gives you ten to twenty chances to win about a hundred bucks and the odds are better. However if you feel the need to play these rip-offs remember a couple things.

                1) if you are hoping for a large win $5000 or up wait. The lottery will flood the market with small prizes first, but hold on to the bigger ones. If you doubt this, go to your state website and look up top prizes still available under their instant ticket link. More often even after a ticket has been on sale five months or more you may see something like this. Ten top prizes of $1,000,000 with seven or more still available.

                2) Buy your tickets at BIG stores such as 7-11 instead of small mom and pop stores. Remember that the lottery knows beforehand where these tickets are being sold. Once again, check the website for previous winners and you will see I'm right. A sign posted on a 7-11 announcing a $20,000 winner is better for sales than one on a little deli in the middle of nowhere.

                3) Finally, if buying more than one ticket, purchase 4 of the same ticket not four different kinds. You are far more likely to have four losers than four winners. Then should you win on one of those four, then buy a different ticket.

                Hope this helps some one.

                 By the way...

                POWERBALL one ticket

                MEGA           one ticket

                cash five (or similar)  multiple tickets if jackpot is $750,000 or higher

                odds are better and a win like that can be just as life changing.  GOOD LUCK! Check out my picks. I only post for NEW JERSEY because I chart the numbers here. I have no system but I can narrow your chances of winning. My advise is to play one number wheel say "499" multiple times until it hits. playing multiple numbers means you NEED to hit multiple times for the same result.

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                  Posted: February 23, 2016, 4:28 pm - IP Logged

                  A quick trip to the bank just netted a $25 profit.

                  After going to the bank, I stopped in to buy 1-$5 NY poker ticket. Upon returning home, I scratched it, to reveal 3- $10 winning spots, minus the $5 cost = $25 profit.

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                    Posted: February 24, 2016, 3:38 am - IP Logged

                    After playing scratch-offs obsessively for months without every anything big to show for it, I totally swore off scratch offs. I was playing $1, $2, $3, $5, $10, $20, $25, $30 scratch-offs, but not more.

                    With draw games you have an equal shot of winning as anyone else in your state (or anyone else in any other state in the case of multi-state lotteries.)

                    With scratch-offs, there are variables that imbalance things...what store in what location got the roll with the big winner tickets...or has the lottery even put the big winner rolls out there yet?

                    The most I've ever won from a scratch-off was $500 from a $10 special holiday "Winner Wonderland" ticket.

                    On the rare occasion I'd play scratch-offs, I'd play the $1 Instant Take-5 tickets which have decent odds going up to $5,555 and a 1 in 2.84 chance of at least scoring a free Take 5 quick pick draw ticket.

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                      Posted: February 26, 2016, 11:13 pm - IP Logged

                      One scratch-off ticket has a much higher probability of winning than a draw game lottery ticket (1 in 4 versus 1 in 10, roughly). However, if the cost of a scratch-off ticket is more than $2, then it gets more complicated.

                      Basically, what you do is compare the cost of buying A scratch-off tickets at a price of S with N drawing tickets at $B/per ticket/week: A*S=N*B

                      The question is:which is greater, the probability of winning with A scratch-off tickets at a price of S or N draw games at a price of B.

                      Another thing to consider is the house edge. Most draw games are 50% house edge. In Texas, the $1 scratch-offs are 40% house edge, $2 scratch-offs are 35% house edge, ... and $50 scratch-offs are only 23% house edge.

                      In Vermont, where I live, the house edge is not as predictable as Texas, but in general the more per ticket, the lower the house edge. I particularly like Tic Tac Snow $2 which has a 30% house edge, not too bad for $2.

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                        Posted: February 27, 2016, 8:11 pm - IP Logged

                        Saw a article about scratchers, and it said that you should play only the 10.00 and up......the payouts are better if you do hit......i was waiting for a pizza

                        at my local store and i watched a man get two scratchers and he would come back and buy another , and come back and cash in a free ticket......then he came

                        back and had won 30.00  and i thought to myself that guy is only about 5.00 better off than when he started......just not worth it, i don't play scratchers.

                        and another thing to drop 20.00 on one scratcher is crazy.  thrilling at the time and total remorse afterward.

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                          Posted: February 28, 2016, 4:35 am - IP Logged

                          Good choice to quit scratchers. The odds are NOT in your favor. The game may say overall odd are 1-5 are less, but that means for prizes of $100 or less. While it is true that somebody is going to win big, it most likely Won't be you. Should you feel the need to win INSTANTLY, I suggest going into the store and playing your five or ten dollars on quick pick-4 boxes shortly before the midday or evening draws. This gives you ten to twenty chances to win about a hundred bucks and the odds are better. However if you feel the need to play these rip-offs remember a couple things.

                          1) if you are hoping for a large win $5000 or up wait. The lottery will flood the market with small prizes first, but hold on to the bigger ones. If you doubt this, go to your state website and look up top prizes still available under their instant ticket link. More often even after a ticket has been on sale five months or more you may see something like this. Ten top prizes of $1,000,000 with seven or more still available.

                          2) Buy your tickets at BIG stores such as 7-11 instead of small mom and pop stores. Remember that the lottery knows beforehand where these tickets are being sold. Once again, check the website for previous winners and you will see I'm right. A sign posted on a 7-11 announcing a $20,000 winner is better for sales than one on a little deli in the middle of nowhere.

                          3) Finally, if buying more than one ticket, purchase 4 of the same ticket not four different kinds. You are far more likely to have four losers than four winners. Then should you win on one of those four, then buy a different ticket.

                          Hope this helps some one.

                           By the way...

                          POWERBALL one ticket

                          MEGA           one ticket

                          cash five (or similar)  multiple tickets if jackpot is $750,000 or higher

                          odds are better and a win like that can be just as life changing.  GOOD LUCK! Check out my picks. I only post for NEW JERSEY because I chart the numbers here. I have no system but I can narrow your chances of winning. My advise is to play one number wheel say "499" multiple times until it hits. playing multiple numbers means you NEED to hit multiple times for the same result.

                          Well about #2 I think it's because statistically there are a lot more sales in big stores, so assuming the jackpot goes to a store in random, a mom and pop store has the same chance of getting the jackpot ticket as the 7-11, but since there are so many 7-11 stores, in the end we see them more in the winning tickets list.

                          Or do you think the lottery deliberately rigs the system so that the winning tickets go more to big chains rather then distribute randomly?

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                            I quit playing scratch-offs as the odds just seem to be getting worse and worse.  Also, I grew very suspicious of convenience store workers/owners regarding winning tickets. 

                            With $100 'seed' money, I bought five $20 tickets for a game that still had a majority of large prizes available even though it had been around for about a year.  I went to 3 different convenience stores for my tickets.  At the largest store, the ticket that they gave me was all mangled up on the top part.  They kept their ticket dispensers under the counter so the ticket was partially exposed to damage from passing workers.

                            After scratching them all, I won $220!  One of the $100 winners (I had 2) was that mangled ticket.  I went back to the store that sold it to me to cash it in.  The older guy behind the counter looked at the mangled ticket and recognized it right away.  "You bought this ticket here."  A statement, not a question. 

                            He put it in the machine and he looked shocked and dismayed, like he had lost something.  He looked at the younger guy behind the counter with him, threw his hand up in the air with the ticket and said "It was a hundred dollar winner!  THAT ticket that was here for so long!  A hundred dollar winner!"  Then 'tsked', shook his head and looked very disgusted.

                            I may not be the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree, but his reaction did not sit well with me.  He practically threw the money at me, like I was stealing from him.   I don't care how much the State Lottery insists that there is no corruption at the playing level, I just don't trust the store owners or workers.

                            Never again.

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                              Posted: February 28, 2016, 9:51 am - IP Logged

                              I quit playing scratch-offs as the odds just seem to be getting worse and worse.  Also, I grew very suspicious of convenience store workers/owners regarding winning tickets. 

                              With $100 'seed' money, I bought five $20 tickets for a game that still had a majority of large prizes available even though it had been around for about a year.  I went to 3 different convenience stores for my tickets.  At the largest store, the ticket that they gave me was all mangled up on the top part.  They kept their ticket dispensers under the counter so the ticket was partially exposed to damage from passing workers.

                              After scratching them all, I won $220!  One of the $100 winners (I had 2) was that mangled ticket.  I went back to the store that sold it to me to cash it in.  The older guy behind the counter looked at the mangled ticket and recognized it right away.  "You bought this ticket here."  A statement, not a question. 

                              He put it in the machine and he looked shocked and dismayed, like he had lost something.  He looked at the younger guy behind the counter with him, threw his hand up in the air with the ticket and said "It was a hundred dollar winner!  THAT ticket that was here for so long!  A hundred dollar winner!"  Then 'tsked', shook his head and looked very disgusted.

                              I may not be the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree, but his reaction did not sit well with me.  He practically threw the money at me, like I was stealing from him.   I don't care how much the State Lottery insists that there is no corruption at the playing level, I just don't trust the store owners or workers.

                              Never again.

                              If your state has vending machines, buy your scratchers from from them.

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