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I'm looking at simple solutions to your problem. My keno has 70 numbers. The data and results are correct.

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    I added an option to my random generator making the outcome more random.

    Example with 20/80:

    1 5 8 10 15 17 20 30 35 36 39 41 42 49 51 61 62 69 72 74
    1 7 15 19 22 23 28 29 30 31 34 39 40 55 56 66 68 72 73 79
    3 9 12 13 18 20 22 24 26 32 33 36 45 59 61 62 63 70 72 77
    4 6 20 22 25 28 29 32 39 43 44 46 47 59 63 67 68 71 74 79
    6 7 8 11 13 14 16 19 31 33 36 39 42 44 45 51 55 60 78 80
    1 2 4 6 13 20 21 30 31 37 38 41 42 48 58 59 61 63 75 79
    5 8 10 12 17 19 23 28 31 35 38 41 52 56 58 68 73 74 77 78
    6 7 14 23 27 29 35 37 40 47 48 49 51 55 57 58 68 70 73 78
    5 15 19 23 25 31 34 37 46 49 50 52 53 54 56 57 65 67 74 75
    1 6 9 10 17 18 28 29 38 42 43 48 50 54 60 62 65 70 72 77
    2 11 21 24 26 28 31 33 40 43 45 46 51 62 68 71 74 77 78 80
    4 9 14 15 22 26 31 33 35 44 52 53 54 56 58 67 68 71 72 75
    ...

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      I can work out a solution to your three numbers problem. There certainly is a probability for this and randomness will not care about those averages. That's the way we like it!

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        I can work out a solution to your three numbers problem. There certainly is a probability for this and randomness will not care about those averages. That's the way we like it!

        Thanks for your prompt & courteous response

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          The type of keno i play has 80 numbers. This is what i need to handicap.

          How To Play

          Play Keno WHEN, WHERE and HOW you want. Keno is a fast-paced, fun game that allows you to choose how many numbers to play, how much money to wager, where to play and where to check your winning numbers. Keno and Packaged Keno To Go (PKTG) are played using a field of numbers from one to 80, and you may choose up to ten numbers in that field. The Lottery’s computer continuously generates random sets of 20 numbers. Every four minutes, for each game, the central computer “locks in” on a set of those numbers, which are then displayed on the Keno monitor. There are a variety of ways to win based on matching some, all, or — in some cases — none of the numbers.

          Keno is a fun, fast-paced game where you choose up to ten numbers and win based on how many you match. Win $1–$100,000

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            The type of keno i play has 80 numbers. This is what i need to handicap.

            How To Play

            Play Keno WHEN, WHERE and HOW you want. Keno is a fast-paced, fun game that allows you to choose how many numbers to play, how much money to wager, where to play and where to check your winning numbers. Keno and Packaged Keno To Go (PKTG) are played using a field of numbers from one to 80, and you may choose up to ten numbers in that field. The Lottery’s computer continuously generates random sets of 20 numbers. Every four minutes, for each game, the central computer “locks in” on a set of those numbers, which are then displayed on the Keno monitor. There are a variety of ways to win based on matching some, all, or — in some cases — none of the numbers.

            Keno is a fun, fast-paced game where you choose up to ten numbers and win based on how many you match. Win $1–$100,000

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             Want to put a little moolah in your pocket go to Reno & play the 9 spot progressive opportunity

            Again Keno expert Gaming Today author Pesach

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            "I wrote a column about this a few weeks ago in Gaming Today and it was in the low 900s I believe then, return about 84%..keep in mind with odds of 1.3M to 1 that it will likely go about 600,000 or more of an increase (on the average) before it is hit as th efact that it has not been hit makes it no more likely to be hit than before. Of ocurse with more play the odds of it getting hit increase do more chances used. The Atlantis the best casino in Reno, easy access by the virginia St Bus and the Rapid and veyr helpful staff, good food, and the Keno game run by Sue Chau is the best in the city. Amtrak has trains and buses from N California to Reno and you do NOT need a car in Reno, transit goes everywhere there."


             

             

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              KENO Cloud News Options:

              Players Keno customers now have the option to view game results from their home computer or mobile device!

              On your computer or mobile device enter: ikenocloud.com/players/

              Here are some great things the Keno Cloud allows Players Keno customers to do:
              • View the current game results
              • View previous game results
              • Use the Find Game tool and look up the results for a specific game number
              • Enter your favorite numbers and search to see when they last came in
              • View the hottest numbers or coldest numbers throughout the day
               

              Click the image below to access Keno Cloud for Players Keno:

              Keno Cloud for Web

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                KENO Cloud News Options:

                Players Keno customers now have the option to view game results from their home computer or mobile device!

                On your computer or mobile device enter: ikenocloud.com/players/

                Here are some great things the Keno Cloud allows Players Keno customers to do:
                • View the current game results
                • View previous game results
                • Use the Find Game tool and look up the results for a specific game number
                • Enter your favorite numbers and search to see when they last came in
                • View the hottest numbers or coldest numbers throughout the day
                 

                Click the image below to access Keno Cloud for Players Keno:

                Keno Cloud for Web

                With Compliments & Fortuna

                Master Keno Expert & Author Mr. Pesach Kremen

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                Meter 9 progressive still rising at Reno’s Atlantis

                "The More to the Meter 9-spot keno progressive at Atlantis Casino in Reno is at $1,013,000 and climbing! This is a player return of 89%, very good for keno.

                It is approaching the break even point (0% house edge), which is about $1,252,000. Since it climbs at the rate of 50 cents per play (the fastest rising keno progressive I have ever found), it could get to break even or go considerably higher.

                On average it takes 1.3 million plays to hit a solid 9. That means, on average based on today’s level, it will hit at around $1.663 million. Remember, you need to get there and play it before someone else hits it!

                While you might think the “pros” will try to grab this one, the bankroll required is way too large even for a well-financed group, thus this is an open invitation for any lucky player to try to strike it rich.

                The 8-spot was at $171,915, the 7-spot at $27,590, the 6 at $4,629, the 5 at $1,880 and the 4 at $650.

                Go to atlantiscasino.com, click on casino, then click on keno to see the progressive amounts and also keno game results. If the progressive is not high enough at the time you are playing consider their Regular and Paradise special rates. Play $5 a ticket and get their Fortune rate for a greater payback percentage.

                Go for it with their 10-cent special rate (mark T on your tickets). The pays are concentrated on the high end. Playing high-end keno is more rewarding! These tickets for a dime per game pay nicely – 7-of-8 is $40, and a solid 8 pays $15,000. Compare this to a catch all ticket at one of the Vegas Strip casinos where a Catch All 10-spot pays $15,000, a 3% return. The Atlantis gives you a 71.6% return on the 8-spot dime ticket, which is about 40 times as easy to hit as the 10-spot and they pay on 7-out-of-8 as well.

                For real fun play the 10-cent tickets as ways. Play an all king ticket of one 8 and eight 7s at a dime a way, a total of 90 cents a game.

                If you hit 6 numbers you will have a pay of $10 as you will have hit two 6-of-7s. If you hit 7 numbers you will have a pay of $40 for the 7-of-8, $35 total for the seven 6-of-7s, and $2,750 for the solid 7, giving you a pay total of $2,825.

                Hit the big one, all 8, and you get $15,000 for the solid 8 plus $2,750 for each of the eight solid 7s (8 x $2,750 = $22,000) giving you a toal of $37,000 and you are playing for only 90 cents a game!

                Keep in mind Atlantis keno has a nonsmoking area, excellent nonsmoking restaurants, really nice rooms, and an excellent well heated indoor pool. You pay for a casino hotel but you get a resort! Give in your players card when you buy your tickets and you might qualify for free and discounted rooms, offers, and more.

                On top of all this the keno staff is always very helpful and supportive, no matter how busy they get. Sue Chau runs an excellent game and is always very helpful as well.

                Reno is cooler than many other cities in the state during the summer as well and has an excellent transit system so a rental car is definitely not needed thus more money to try for the progressives or enjoy the excellent food at The Atlantis. If you live in Southern Nevada there is a nice bus ride through the state to Reno and an easy city bus connection to the Atlantis once you arrive.

                If in the Bay Area, Amtrak’s California Zephyr is a beautiful ride over the mountains to Reno as well as some added Amtrak train-bus combinations via Sacramento. For those of you from a galaxy far, far, away who come by airplane The Atlantis offers a shuttle to pick you up at the nearby Airport.

                There is more keno fun coming. You can play a Regular or Paradise way ticket at 5 cents a way as long as the total ticket price is $5 or more. Options for every budget and a huge unlimited progressive as well. Go for it! It is fun!"

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                  Had lots of fun playing a 15-way 2-2-2-2, 7-way 3-3-3, and a 10-way 4-4-4-4. Another favorite is the 7-way 2-3-4.

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                    Had lots of fun playing a 15-way 2-2-2-2, 7-way 3-3-3, and a 10-way 4-4-4-4. Another favorite is the 7-way 2-3-4.

                    Lottery

                    Impressive 15 way

                    May the little white balls fall on your fav numbers, Stack

                     

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                      Impressive 15 way

                      May the little white balls fall on your fav numbers, Stack

                       

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                      Keno author Linda Zahm on 7 CARD, FOUR CARD, MULTI CARD & CLUSTER PATTERNS

                      ~ VERY PRACTICAL......

                       

                      Keno patterns


                      by L.J. Zahm

                       

                        'One of the interesting facets of playing Four Card Keno (as well as multi-card keno) is placing one pattern of numbers "within" another pattern of numbers.

                      For instance, you might mark a 7-spot ticket inside a 10-spot ticket.

                      Obviously, the hope is to catch a multiple jackpot if and when your numbers land in your "cluster."

                      Lately, I’ve been taking some 7-spot patterns, and overlapping them inside 9-spot patterns, with some good early results.

                      Using this method over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been able to catch several 6-of-7 jackpots, often coupled with a 7-of-9 payoff. I’m thinking (and hoping) that it’s just a matter of time before I catch the brass ring – a solid 7-spot to go along with an 8-of-9 jackpot (or better!).

                      For instance, it has always been one of my favorite patterns to play 9-spot patterns consisting of the two-by-eight box (1, 2, 11, 12, 21, 22, 31, 32) along with the orphan, 3, and then repeating the pattern in a mirror-image below the center line (41, 42, 51, 52, 61, 62, 71, 72) with the orphan, 73.

                      However, instead of playing the 9-spot, I would create four 7-spot patterns as follows:

                      • 1, 2, 11, 12, 21, 22 and the 3

                      • 11, 12, 21, 22, 31, 32 and the 33

                      • 11, 12, 13, 21, 22, 23 and the 2

                      • 11, 12, 13, 21, 22, 23 and the 32

                      Now, I just happen to pick these patterns because they’re easy to remember and re-draw, which comes in handy with frequent "re-setting" of the machine (cashing in and out frequently).

                      I’m sure you can experiment with other patterns, remembering that consistency is key.

                      I’ve been coming close when putting a couple of 7-spots inside of a 9-spot. For instance, I would catch 6-of-7 which often times accompanied hitting a 7-of-9. I’ve yet to hit a solid 7-spot coupled with an 8-of-9 jackpot.

                      In past columns I’ve depicted several ways of marking such a "seven within a nine" card, including taking the entire column plus an orphan (for the 9-spot) while marking a 7-spot within those nine numbers.

                      It’s always nice when the numbers cluster into your pattern.

                      Of course, because you’re concentrating a lot of your eggs in one basket, you might have to play longer, but when the numbers come around, the payoff can be astronomical'

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                        Keno author Linda Zahm on 7 CARD, FOUR CARD, MULTI CARD & CLUSTER PATTERNS

                        ~ VERY PRACTICAL......

                         

                        Keno patterns


                        by L.J. Zahm

                         

                          'One of the interesting facets of playing Four Card Keno (as well as multi-card keno) is placing one pattern of numbers "within" another pattern of numbers.

                        For instance, you might mark a 7-spot ticket inside a 10-spot ticket.

                        Obviously, the hope is to catch a multiple jackpot if and when your numbers land in your "cluster."

                        Lately, I’ve been taking some 7-spot patterns, and overlapping them inside 9-spot patterns, with some good early results.

                        Using this method over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been able to catch several 6-of-7 jackpots, often coupled with a 7-of-9 payoff. I’m thinking (and hoping) that it’s just a matter of time before I catch the brass ring – a solid 7-spot to go along with an 8-of-9 jackpot (or better!).

                        For instance, it has always been one of my favorite patterns to play 9-spot patterns consisting of the two-by-eight box (1, 2, 11, 12, 21, 22, 31, 32) along with the orphan, 3, and then repeating the pattern in a mirror-image below the center line (41, 42, 51, 52, 61, 62, 71, 72) with the orphan, 73.

                        However, instead of playing the 9-spot, I would create four 7-spot patterns as follows:

                        • 1, 2, 11, 12, 21, 22 and the 3

                        • 11, 12, 21, 22, 31, 32 and the 33

                        • 11, 12, 13, 21, 22, 23 and the 2

                        • 11, 12, 13, 21, 22, 23 and the 32

                        Now, I just happen to pick these patterns because they’re easy to remember and re-draw, which comes in handy with frequent "re-setting" of the machine (cashing in and out frequently).

                        I’m sure you can experiment with other patterns, remembering that consistency is key.

                        I’ve been coming close when putting a couple of 7-spots inside of a 9-spot. For instance, I would catch 6-of-7 which often times accompanied hitting a 7-of-9. I’ve yet to hit a solid 7-spot coupled with an 8-of-9 jackpot.

                        In past columns I’ve depicted several ways of marking such a "seven within a nine" card, including taking the entire column plus an orphan (for the 9-spot) while marking a 7-spot within those nine numbers.

                        It’s always nice when the numbers cluster into your pattern.

                        Of course, because you’re concentrating a lot of your eggs in one basket, you might have to play longer, but when the numbers come around, the payoff can be astronomical'

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                          Keno at the El Cortez offers more unique rates than anyone in Vegas

                          Keno at the El Cortez offers more unique rates than anyone in Vegas

                           

                          August 23, 2016 3:08 AM
                          by Pesach Kremen

                          "This week, we return to discuss the keno game at the El Cortez. It has a lot going for it such as being open 24/7 and having 50% of its seating nonsmoking. Most unique is they have more rates than any other casino in town. They have 40-cent, $.65, $.70, $.85, $.95, $1, $1.10, $1,25 and $1.50 MegaKeno. That is nine different rates, surely something for everyone and anyone!

                          In my opinion the 40-cent, $.65, $1.25 and, of course, the Mega Keno $1.50 rate, when the progressive gets high enough, are clearly your best bets. The $1.25 is the second best rate for most tickets (the 40-cent rate is slightly better return wise for the 5-spot) in downtown. The return runs from 77% to 81.5% for the $1.25 rate, depending on the number of spots played.

                          A combination ticket is when you mix rates on the same ticket. For example, you could write a ticket grouped as 2-2-1-1 and play the 6 at $1.25, the two 5s at 80 cents each (using the 40-cent rate to get the lowest house edge), the three 4s at the 65-cent rate, and the four 4s at the $1.10 rate to go for a $200 pay for a solid 4.

                          Thus you would pay $1.25 + 2($0.80) + 3($0.65) + 4($1.10) = $1.25 + $1.60 + $1.95 + $4.40 = $9.20.

                          Just make sure you specify the rate desired by marking it on your ticket adjacent to your ways so you get the exact ticket you desire. Please check your ticket before you leave the counter to make sure it is correct!

                          While your games are running you will find some good video poker at the El Cortez, which has 3-to-2 on all blackjack games, and 10 times odds on craps. The food is good and inexpensive and the rooms are nice. The Cabana Suites are across the street and are 100% nonsmoking with free Wi-Fi and a refrigerator in every room.

                          Host Nords Malilay does an excellent job taking care of your every need and is very realistic in taking care of your needs with a reasonable amount of play.

                          The slot club pays more than most in terms of cash back and monthly coupons obtainable at the kiosk give you very good values as well. The casino is well served by transit, has a complimentary shuttle to the airport six days a week, is a six-block walk from the bus station and just two blocks from the Fremont Street Experience Canopy.

                          The El Cortez is the only downtown casino offering MegaKeno and they use the better of the two paytables available. Megakeno is a statewide keno progressive for 5 to 10 spot tickets. Go to megakeno.com to see the current level of the progressives.

                          For those of you into budget keno, go for their 40-cent rate that allows 20-cent ways on tickets of 10 ways or more. The 2-2-1-1 playing the 6s, 5s, 4s and 3s with a total of 10 ways can be played at 20 cents a way for a total of $2 per game.

                          Any questions, please write me at the email below and I will try to answer promptly. Best of luck to you!"

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                              Two video keno strategies that work


                              by Brad Fredella 

                              Brad Fredella is General Manager of Stetson’s Saloon and Casino in Henderson, NV.)

                              There are basically two different types of strategies when it comes to gaming – those that make a mathematical difference in your expected payback percentage and those that don’t.

                              In the last few articles I’ve written, I’ve suggested strategies for video keno that don’t actually make a mathematical difference in your expected payback. Getting into a rhythm or hopping from machine to machine until one treats you well is good advice, but it’s only my opinion.

                              I sincerely hope the strategies I write about bring my readers good luck. However, I’m not about to tell you I can prove everyone will work, because I can’t. Nobody can.

                              When it comes to video keno there are only two strategies that can mathematically be proven to work. I’ve already written about one – playing mainly 5 through 7-spots when you play.

                              This is because video keno machines are set to payback an average of all of the different individual pay tables for each number of spots a player is able to mark.

                              For example, if a machine is set to return 88% payback (a common setting) and you mark two numbers, you will actually be playing at only a tick over 84%. If you pick six numbers though, you’ll be playing at a little over 90% payback. The average of all of the paybacks is around 88%, but each number of spots you can mark has its own theoretical paybackpercentage.

                              ;Five through 7-spots usually have the highest return within each setting, so I suggest you pick that number to play. It’s mathematically advantageous to do so, not just opinion or superstition.

                              The second mathematically effective strategy for video keno is just as simple – check the pay tables and compare payouts between machines. Then play the machine returning the most.

                              The problem with this strategy is video keno pay tables are huge and not all payouts change between settings. Hitting 6-of-6 will pay 1,600 credits per credit bet on many standard video keno machines set at 84%, 86% or even 90% payback.

                              This being the case, how can you really tell? The hard way is to look at multiple paybacks like 5-of-6 or 4-of-5 and compare several to see which one will result in the best payback percentage depending on how many spots you intend to play.

                              The easy way – and this is a great insider trick to video keno you won’t hear anywhere else – look at 5-of-5.

                              This payout changes between all of the common settings of the most popular standard and multiple card video keno machines found in and around Las Vegas, and probably the rest of the country too. Generally speaking, the more credits you’ll get for hitting 5-of-5 on any non-bonus version of video keno, the looser the machine is set.

                              It’s that simple.

                              The 5-of-5 payback can range from a low of about 740 credits on some of the tightest settings to a high of about 838 on many of the loosest. Most casinos won’t use either the loosest or the tightest setting on any machine, so don’t be surprised if you never see 740 or 838. If you can find 804 or even 810, be happy.

                              If you can’t find a 5-of-5 in the 800’s and happen to be in the area, stop by Stetson’s. We have over 30 video keno machines that have an 838 payout on either single or four-card keno, even on denominations right down to nickels.

                              Stetson’s also has more varieties of video keno than any other bar or full-size casino in Henderson as far as I know – well over 20 versions by three different manufacturers.

                              If you know of a better payout place, please write and tell me about it. After all, I can’t claim to run "The Video Keno Capital of Henderson" if I don’t have more variety and looser settings than the competition, now can I?"