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Oct 2, 2016, 9:49 pm

For the posters that may have frequently played both games from the beginnings of their lottery experience. Which one do you find easier or which one have you won more $$ on? To go further which one is easier to hit straight?

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Oct 3, 2016, 10:58 am

I've won more $ on P3. And I've won straight on P3, never on P4. Only box wins on P4. A box payout on P4 is similar to straight on P3 (12 way or 24 way) so it makes sense that straight wins on P3 would be easier, odds for a straight on P4 is 1 in 10000, 1 in 1000 on P3.

Having said all that, I rarely play P3, and when I play P4, it's usually for straight hits only. Today I'm playing straight for $10000.

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Oct 3, 2016, 11:19 am

my experience is different. I have won more on pick 4 than pick 3. I have hit pick 3 more times as the odds would indicate. I prefer pick 4 to pick 3 . I look for patterns that are missing or out longer than normal.
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Oct 3, 2016, 5:00 pm

Pick 4 is manageable from Pool size perspective. The ratio is 3/10 : 4/10 assuming distinct digits per draw set.
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Oct 3, 2016, 6:38 pm

Indiana has Front Three and Back Three plays for the Daily 4 (Pick 4) game. I've hit Front Three and Back Three straight more than the Daily 3 (Pick 3) straight. I agree with a poster in this thread that Pick 4 seems to be more manageable. I've also hit Daily 4 box a few times as well.

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Oct 3, 2016, 8:06 pm

Quote: Originally posted by QuickDrawDude on Oct 3, 2016
Indiana has Front Three and Back Three plays for the Daily 4 (Pick 4) game. I've hit Front Three and Back Three straight more than the Daily 3 (Pick 3) straight. I agree with a poster in this thread that Pick 4 seems to be more manageable. I've also hit Daily 4 box a few times as well.

That is interesting having a 3 number game within the 4 number game. Seems like a win/win without having to play the pick 3. What is the payout for the back or front 3? Most of time in pick 4 I'll get 3 numbers to be modest whether or not their complete back end or front end may be what would be tricky. Indiana did a great add on feature by adding this thanks for sharing.

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Oct 3, 2016, 8:14 pm

Quote: Originally posted by phileight on Oct 3, 2016
my experience is different. I have won more on pick 4 than pick 3. I have hit pick 3 more times as the odds would indicate. I prefer pick 4 to pick 3 . I look for patterns that are missing or out longer than normal.

Do you find it easier to track pick 4 patterns? Seems like there are some great pick 3 players on here.

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Oct 3, 2016, 8:43 pm

All numbers games are easy to win.....if you have the right numbers.

With so many possible combinations, you need more than a system to win.

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Oct 3, 2016, 9:20 pm

Depends on which DATA perspective, from COMBINATORIAL angle, the odds are slim . You can MANAGE the odds best from the POOL (DATA) size.

Drawing Date	Pick 3		Pick 4
Drawing Date	Midday	Evening	Midday	Evening
Mon, Oct 3, 2016	8-7-2	8-4-2	3-0-1-3	8-7-0-9
Sun, Oct 2, 2016	1-1-4	0-0-9	3-2-0-9	9-4-2-5
Sat, Oct 1, 2016	9-3-9	0-0-0	4-8-9-2	4-7-1-7
Fri, Sep 30, 2016	4-6-3	0-3-3	0-6-9-4	9-8-4-4
Thu, Sep 29, 2016	1-9-2	6-3-2	7-4-6-9	9-8-4-4
Wed, Sep 28, 2016	5-4-2	6-6-1	8-8-4-6	5-5-7-3
Tue, Sep 27, 2016	6-7-9	5-7-9	6-4-5-3	9-9-4-1
Mon, Sep 26, 2016	4-0-4	5-5-3	3-5-8-1	8-2-3-2
Sun, Sep 25, 2016	5-6-4	1-2-3	2-7-4-8	0-4-7-1
Sat, Sep 24, 2016	9-0-2	6-2-4	0-0-2-6	7-8-7-0

Lets assume, the draw digits are DISTINCT(no digit replacement), so for P3, you go from prior ratio 3/10 to 3/7 for subsequent draws:

902 next 1345678 > hits 564,463,

564 nxt 0123789 hits 192,872

679 0123458 hits 542

542 0136789 hit xxx

192 0345678 hit 463,

463 0125789 hit 872

NB> This is over simplification, but is good base

P 4> Assumed prior is 4/10 to next 4/6(distinct digits)

2748 nxt 013569 > x

3581 nxt 024679 > hit 7469,0694

6453 nxt 012789 xx

7469 next 0123589 > 3209,

0694 nxt 123578 xxxx

NB>

7C₃ for the assumption is 35 picks

6C₄ is only 15 picks

Cost/50 cents/ box> P3 pays $40, P4 pays $100

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Oct 3, 2016, 9:40 pm

Quote: Originally posted by TheMeatman2005 on Oct 3, 2016
All numbers games are easy to win.....if you have the right numbers.

With so many possible combinations, you need more than a system to win.

Must have a good prediction method which is more valuable then most systems

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Oct 4, 2016, 6:05 am

Quote: Originally posted by MoneyMike$ on Oct 3, 2016
Do you find it easier to track pick 4 patterns? Seems like there are some great pick 3 players on here.

It may only be my perception but it seems the patterns I track move faster and a bit more consistently in the pick 4, so yes i find it easier. seeing a pattern and converting it into a hit playing one or two sets is a whole different issue.
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Oct 9, 2016, 6:14 pm

Based on my own experience with both games, which are one in the same, Pick 4 is by far easier to match on and the profit margins are obviously 100% percent better. I only need two hits per week at a minimal buy-in whereas Pick 3 required a much higher per number buy-in per payout. For the money I was spending on Pick 3 to make what I was, the payout on Pick 4 is simply a better bang for the buck...although it does cost more. I'm an avid believer in 'you get what you pay for.' Pick 4 does require a lot more attention to detail, though.

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Oct 10, 2016, 12:26 am

Quote: Originally posted by MoneyMike$ on Oct 2, 2016
For the posters that may have frequently played both games from the beginnings of their lottery experience. Which one do you find easier or which one have you won more $$ on? To go further which one is easier to hit straight?

It's obvious because of the odds, it's easier to win pick-3 and should be just as obvious players win more playing pick-4. I make multiple bets on pick-4 straight and box so my winnings are much more than the same pick-3 multiple bets.
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Oct 10, 2016, 1:18 am

To win? Neither. To come up with the numbers? Pick 3. Respect to Stack47. Old time. Respect.
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Oct 10, 2016, 5:48 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Soledad on Oct 10, 2016
To win? Neither. To come up with the numbers? Pick 3. Respect to Stack47. Old time. Respect.

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As for coming up with the numbers, if any pick-3 game has a single (three different digits) drawn, one of these lines will match two digits. That also means the odds of one these lines matching all three digits is 7 to 1. A $1 box on each line costs $10 and pays at least $80. But those odds don't include the 28% chance a double or triple will be drawn.

I'm pretty sure a 3 digit match in pick-4 games can be guaranteed on 18 lines, but every drawing has just a 50.4% chance of single being drawn. IMO when I play pick-4, I play a double.

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