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Is it easier to win pick 3 or pick 4 in your own experience?

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Posted: October 10, 2016, 7:58 pm - IP Logged

This is a great forum. you have outdone yourself this time MoneyMike$!

from my experience do I think its easier to win a Pic 3 or Pic 4?

I have found that it differs from player to player and state to state.
I just did a 2 month study on the differences between Pic 3, Pic 4, and
big lotto type players.

techniques and strageties are completely  different in Pic 3.
with that being said, some can be used in Pic 4 some can not be.

Pattern search:
patterns are more clear in a large game system than pic 3
for instance patterns that others have noticed in pic 3
I sometimes see as an extreme reach.
(looking for something that just isn't there)

vote of confidence Pic 4 

Number generation
I personaly had no luck using a key to  generate my own numbers on a Pic 4.
I would never even attempt to do this on a large scale lotto.
where as number generation with a Pic 3 works. I've seen it.

vote of confidence Pic 3

computerized wheeling
a pic 3 for a non double hit is more difficult than a pic 4
or big lotto. (software isn't as available)

vote of confidence Pic 4

hand wheel
(in a hurry at the store, we've all done it)
you can hand wheel a straight alot easier on a Pic 3 than you can
a Pic 4. less likely to make a costly mistake.
it is also more costly on a Pic 4 to do so.
hence the 6 way/24 way differential.

vote of confidence Pic 3

Odds
Pic 3 1:1000
Pic 4 1:10000

vote of confidence Pic 3

Payout differential
excluding the front/back pair and one up one down.
both games offer this option.
Pic 3 lowest tier is $40 its highest is $500
Pic 4 lowest tier is $100 its highest is $5000
Pic 3 single straight $290
Pic 4 single straight $2600
with payouts like that multiple hits on a single set
and draw will give you a greater prize ratio and
better offset your loses.

vote of confidence Pic 4

I'm not going to get into last digits, overdues,
skips, repeats, etc.

what I will say is that I have found that
I do better on a pic 4 in some states overall than I do a Pic 3.
statisticaly I shouldn't.

Pic 3 four different (sets) that hit on different draws for a total of $980

Aug 20 LottoAce  North Carolina Pick 3    Day   6-Way  Box 7-2-3  7-2-3 $290
Sept 08 LottoAce North Carolina Pick 3 Evening 6-Way Box 5-0-9   5-9-0 $40
Sept 08 LottoAce North Carolina Pick 3 Evening 6-Way Box 9-0-5   5-9-0 $40
Sept 08 LottoAce North Carolina Pick 3 Evening 6-Way Box 0-5-9   5-9-0 $40
Sept 08 LottoAce North Carolina Pick 3 Evening 6-Way Box 0-9-5   5-9-0 $40
Sept 26 LottoAce North Carolina Pick 3 Daytime 3way Box 2-6-6  6-6-2 $80
Oct 09  LottoAce North Carolina Pick 3 Evening 6-Way Box 5-1-3 3-1-5 $40
Oct 09  LottoAce North Carolina Pick 3 Evening 6-Way Box 1-5-3 3-1-5 $40
Oct 09  LottoAce North Carolina Pick 3 Evening 6-Way Box 1-3-5 3-1-5 $40
Oct 09  LottoAce North Carolina Pick 3 Evening 6-Way Box 5-3-1 3-1-5 $40
Oct 09  LottoAce North Carolina Pick 3 Evening 6-Way Box 3-1-5 3-1-5 $290

Pic 4 three different (sets) that hit on different draws for a total of $800

Sept 08 LottoAce North Carolina Pick 4 Evening 12-Way Box 6-9-2-2 2-2-6-9 $200
Sept 08 LottoAce North Carolina Pick 4 Evening 12-Way Box 9-6-2-2 2-2-6-9 $200
Sept 08 LottoAce North Carolina Pick 4 Evening 12-Way Box 2-2-9-6 2-2-6-9 $200
Oct 05  LottoAce  North Carolina Pick 4 Evening 24-Way Box 7-2-5-0 5-2-0-7 $100
Oct 07  LottoAce  North Carolina Pick 4 Daytime 24-Way Box 9-3-4-6 3-4-6-9 $100

N.C. vote of confidence Pic 3

Pic 3 one (set) that hit on one draw for a total of $40

Sep 28 LottoAce South Carolina Pick 3 Midday 6-Way Box 1-4-8 8-1-4 $40

Pic 4 one (set) that hit on one draw for a total of $600

Oct 08 LottoAce South Carolina Pick 4 Midday 24-Way Box 0-5-3-6 5-3-6-0 $100
Oct 08 LottoAce South Carolina Pick 4 Midday 24-Way Box 0-3-5-6 5-3-6-0 $100
Oct 08 LottoAce South Carolina Pick 4 Midday 24-Way Box 3-0-5-6 5-3-6-0 $100
Oct 08 LottoAce South Carolina Pick 4 Midday 24-Way Box 3-5-0-6 5-3-6-0 $100
Oct 08 LottoAce South Carolina Pick 4 Midday 24-Way Box 5-0-3-6 5-3-6-0 $100
Oct 08 LottoAce South Carolina Pick 4 Midday 24-Way Box 5-3-0-6 5-3-6-0 $100

S.C. vote of confidence Pic 4

which is easier to win Pic 3 or Pic 4 basicaly depends on the player
and his/her style.

Pic 4 seems to pay off better when
using my style of play.

LottoAce's vote of confidence Pic 4

"know your limitations, but excede your expectations"

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    Posted: October 17, 2016, 6:21 pm - IP Logged

    I hit on a pick 4 straight a few years ago. My daughter said mom, play 4102, i said why, she said just playing it, its coming out. I played it and sure nuff it hit straight that night!!!! pick 3 is eazy to hit when you study the numbers and get your key digits. I like the pick 4 better because I like to challenge myself to get a hit on the pick 4

    I Agree!I'm good at what I do, my good luck can be yours too!!!

     

    All time favorites:

    916/514/123

    5050/9901/2121/3232 

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      Posted: October 17, 2016, 10:22 pm - IP Logged

      It also depends on what game you normally play all the time I would imagine. But I find that both games can be connected. For ex., 10/14 mid draw NY 288. 288 (times and divided) by the decimal 0.30 equals 960 and 86. Add 960 and 86 together you get 1046. 10/16 midday win4 draw 0641. Box win. 

      I used to use 0.25, I've started using 0.30 recently just because there's 3 balls.

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        Posted: October 17, 2016, 11:23 pm - IP Logged

        236
        347
        125
        458
        781
        569
        014
        892
        670
        903

        As for coming up with the numbers, if any pick-3 game has a single (three different digits) drawn, one of these lines will match two digits. That also means the odds of one these lines matching all three digits is 7 to 1. A $1 box on each line costs $10 and pays at least $80. But those odds don't include the 28% chance a double or triple will be drawn.

        I'm pretty sure a 3 digit match in pick-4 games can be guaranteed on 18 lines, but every drawing has just a 50.4% chance of single being drawn. IMO when I play pick-4, I play a double.

        Is this theory better than playing series

        Let it Snow Snowman

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          Posted: October 18, 2016, 7:44 am - IP Logged

          You don't really win at pick 3, but you should get 60% payback by playing some rule. Better is 75% when putting more effort into it. The 100% plus is in the gamble zone. With a fatter bankroll your play better.

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            Posted: October 18, 2016, 7:53 am - IP Logged

            236
            347
            125
            458
            781
            569
            014
            892
            670
            903

            As for coming up with the numbers, if any pick-3 game has a single (three different digits) drawn, one of these lines will match two digits. That also means the odds of one these lines matching all three digits is 7 to 1. A $1 box on each line costs $10 and pays at least $80. But those odds don't include the 28% chance a double or triple will be drawn.

            I'm pretty sure a 3 digit match in pick-4 games can be guaranteed on 18 lines, but every drawing has just a 50.4% chance of single being drawn. IMO when I play pick-4, I play a double.

            I'm looking at the composition. How many versions of these do you have?

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              Posted: October 18, 2016, 11:19 pm - IP Logged

              I'm looking at the composition. How many versions of these do you have?

              Twelve versions, but each version has 60 combos.

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                Posted: October 21, 2016, 12:12 pm - IP Logged

                It also depends on what game you normally play all the time I would imagine. But I find that both games can be connected. For ex., 10/14 mid draw NY 288. 288 (times and divided) by the decimal 0.30 equals 960 and 86. Add 960 and 86 together you get 1046. 10/16 midday win4 draw 0641. Box win. 

                I used to use 0.25, I've started using 0.30 recently just because there's 3 balls.

                Back to this, divide and multiply 288 by 0.25 you get 72 and 1152, which added together gives 1224. Divide by 2= 612. Last night's NY number. Box win. Or mirror the 1 and the 6 for a Straight. These things don't happen for no reason. 612 just came out on Oct. 5th evening. 

                Just 2b totally honest, I usually divide answer by 7 and count until I see something I like. As long as the numbers fit or work together. Either one can be simple as pie.

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                  Back to this, divide and multiply 288 by 0.25 you get 72 and 1152, which added together gives 1224. Divide by 2= 612. Last night's NY number. Box win. Or mirror the 1 and the 6 for a Straight. These things don't happen for no reason. 612 just came out on Oct. 5th evening. 

                  Just 2b totally honest, I usually divide answer by 7 and count until I see something I like. As long as the numbers fit or work together. Either one can be simple as pie.

                  1÷0.25=4

                  6÷0.25=24

                  2÷0.25=8

                  4+8+24=36

                  36+162=198

                  198+162 (lotto math style)=250

                  Next draw was 502. Box win lol. And the day after 2 draws later 750 showed. Mirror the 2.

                  Like I said, these things definitely don't happen for no reason. The hard part is connecting what we don't see. Because that's not the way any of us are taught. Except by God.

                  It's what you do with them that counts. But it's a two way street imho

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                    Posted: October 23, 2016, 12:13 pm - IP Logged

                    Pick 3 is easier I have only hit the pick 4 twice in 2004 for $10,000 and 2008 for $400 I only play one pick 4 number and when it came last I missed it I was playing this number for over 4 years. 

                    Happy Holidays 

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                      1÷0.25=4

                      6÷0.25=24

                      2÷0.25=8

                      4+8+24=36

                      36+162=198

                      198+162 (lotto math style)=250

                      Next draw was 502. Box win lol. And the day after 2 draws later 750 showed. Mirror the 2.

                      Like I said, these things definitely don't happen for no reason. The hard part is connecting what we don't see. Because that's not the way any of us are taught. Except by God.

                      It's what you do with them that counts. But it's a two way street imho

                      The applications are interesting in their own ways but, it seems they're all being applied after the draws to define the winning combos origins which is hind sight. I knew a guy some years ago that ran a magazine store and he was heavily into our Texas Lottery. Of course, we got along well 'cause I enjoyed crunching numbers as well. This man could figure out exactly how the winning numbers came about on darn near every draw...afterwards. I mean, he applied past results compiled with prominent dates relative to our state, and specific events. It made some sense but, it was too little too late. You ought to be cleaning house with what you have here, if it can be applied beforehand.

                      Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

                      There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

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                        The applications are interesting in their own ways but, it seems they're all being applied after the draws to define the winning combos origins which is hind sight. I knew a guy some years ago that ran a magazine store and he was heavily into our Texas Lottery. Of course, we got along well 'cause I enjoyed crunching numbers as well. This man could figure out exactly how the winning numbers came about on darn near every draw...afterwards. I mean, he applied past results compiled with prominent dates relative to our state, and specific events. It made some sense but, it was too little too late. You ought to be cleaning house with what you have here, if it can be applied beforehand.

                        No no yes exactly this year I have been a little behind as you say. But in past there have been times where if written down and followed each time properly you can see something ahead of time. 

                        The thing with what I do is I try to find a 'flaw' something that stands out and is repeated. Though I cannot say why or how until I see it. In the first post, I stated that I liked to count back 7 and add. Well, I used to do that by adding how much each number 'jumped' from the number before; i.e. 162 (440) 502. Then I would add 440 to 502 and divide by 7. Those answers are the ones I used to track. And I would eventually add them, always by 7 etc. But I have a unique adding system too. I add the same numbers 2 different ways...anyways I know exactly what you're saying. What you said about that guy..that happens to me a lot.

                        (Ex) Last week Sunday mid 249, 2=8, 4=16, 9=36. Add them=60

                        60+249=309,,,309+249=548, today's midday # was 854.

                        I know there's not really rhyme or reason. I just try to be clever sometimes. Sometimes a little too clever. Lol

                        Thanks LL

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                          Posted: October 23, 2016, 4:23 pm - IP Logged

                          You do have to admit though with the 612 and the 162. The 1 and the 6 were mirrored, but not the 2. After 502 came out in a different order than 250 was. 750 came out. The 2 was mirrored eventually. And as 250 would've been. I call that a 'flaw' something that stands out. That was before. Human minds they can be so funny sometimes lol.

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                            Posted: October 23, 2016, 4:25 pm - IP Logged

                            1,000 vs 10,000 I'm jus saying, pick3 has definitely been good to me. It doesn't take alot to win, jus a good strategy and stick with it

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                              1,000 vs 10,000 I'm jus saying, pick3 has definitely been good to me. It doesn't take alot to win, jus a good strategy and stick with it

                              From probability ratio angle,  P3 may seem easier, but P4 is more manageable  considering the POOL size. P3 and P4 has the same POOL size (10 digits), assume the game is ' a draw without replacement' then you'll have less twist and turns for P4. The Prize for P4 is also right even for Box hit.