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# Pair Sums

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Pair sums is a term for working with the sum of pairs whether it be the front pairs, back pairs, or split pairs. Makes sense, right?

Sometimes it's easier to find a pair of number to play than a single digit. Some people prefer pairs. I got new license plate this year. They have four digits. Two sets of pairs. Or one set for the Pick 4 drawing?

Maybe that's the lottery commissions master plan? New plate with four digits will plant the subliminal message to play Pick 4? The state NEEDS our money (as if they don't get enough)!

Be that as it may, the first chart I call FSUM.

F = Front digit going down under FSUM and SUM= sum of the back pair going across to the right from FSUM

The program was run using all the live draw results for the morning, day, evening and night draws for Texas. A total of 13641 sets. The results came out like the chart below.

Easy to see the hot spots on the chart go from 6 to 12. Those back pair sums hit about 57% percent of the time. At the top of the chart the pairs that correspond to the sums have been color coded, i.e., 44 = 08, 45= 09, 46 = 10. The coding itself is based on the type pair. yellow is double digits. Green for consecutive digits. Blue for two odd digits. Red for two even digits. Mauve is mirror pairs.  And white for what else....ghost pairs. (I didn't name the pair type but they fit perfectly, so Thank Win D for the names.

Before you think you just have to pick pairs between 6 and 12 and add a few digits, remember everything goes cold from time to time. Its always best to get some state results to see what has hit in the last 120 draws or so.

Plenty of info on pairs here, but a couple of rules of thumb....

If you pick a pair with two odds, get an even. If you pick two evens, get an odd. (This is based on the 1/2 and 2/1 rule)

Low pairs should be played with a high digit and high pairs with a low digit.

Second chart, same as above except middle digit down and the sum of the split pair across.

Third chart: same as the other two except the back digit goes down and the front pair sum goes across.

Have fun!

G

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This would be great for p3!

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I think that jadelottery already made a pair distribution chart like this..thread 295226

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He may have. I haven't seen it.

No offense taken on my part, and please don't take any offense when I say with so many people working with data, it's possible for two people to stumble across the same idea without realizing it.

I'm certainly not trying to take credit for anything Jade may have done, but I wrote the program to produce this chart, just like I do all my charts. However, I do appreciate your mentioning it.

Thank you!

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He may have. I haven't seen it.

No offense taken on my part, and please don't take any offense when I say with so many people working with data, it's possible for two people to stumble across the same idea without realizing it.

I'm certainly not trying to take credit for anything Jade may have done, but I wrote the program to produce this chart, just like I do all my charts. However, I do appreciate your mentioning it.

Thank you!

G

Can you do one for p3 with the last 10 to 15 input and the charts.  I'm sure it would get a lot of downloads

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Can you do one for p3 with the last 10 to 15 input and the charts.  I'm sure it would get a lot of downloads

It could be. But it would have to be made into an interactive worksheet. The way it is written opens a CSV file, derives all the necessary data pass and produces the chart provided here. It's software.

Do you mean putting in 10 to 15 draws and having Excel make the pairs?

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He may have. I haven't seen it.

No offense taken on my part, and please don't take any offense when I say with so many people working with data, it's possible for two people to stumble across the same idea without realizing it.

I'm certainly not trying to take credit for anything Jade may have done, but I wrote the program to produce this chart, just like I do all my charts. However, I do appreciate your mentioning it.

Thank you!

G

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It could be. But it would have to be made into an interactive worksheet. The way it is written opens a CSV file, derives all the necessary data pass and produces the chart provided here. It's software.

Do you mean putting in 10 to 15 draws and having Excel make the pairs?

Pair sums.

Example

312.   04 03 05

117.   02. 08. 08

459. 09 14 13

126.  03 08 07

345.  07. 09. 08

444.  08. 08. 08

567.   11 13 12

901.    09. 01. 10

277.    09. 14. 09

238.     05. 11. 10

890.     17. 09. 08

217.      03. 08. 09

333.      06. 06. 06

726.       09. 08. 13

155.        06. 10. 06

Three colored charts showing the fp,back pair, split pair.

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TX> P3 Morning

exas (TX) Pick 3 Morning Lottery Results

Draw Date  Results
Tue, Oct 11, 20169-0-1, Sum It Up: 10?Prize Payouts
Mon, Oct 10, 20169-1-5, Sum It Up: 15?Prize Payouts
Sat, Oct 8, 20167-8-4, Sum It Up: 19?Prize Payouts
Fri, Oct 7, 20160-5-4, Sum It Up: 9?Prize Payouts
Thu, Oct 6, 20165-9-6, Sum It Up: 20?Prize Payouts
Wed, Oct 5, 20166-2-5, Sum It Up: 13?Prize Payouts
Tue, Oct 4, 20160-5-9, Sum It Up: 14?Prize Payouts
Mon, Oct 3, 20161-1-5, Sum It Up: 7?Prize Payouts
Sat, Oct 1, 20165-0-5, Sum It Up: 10?Prize Payouts
Fri, Sep 30, 20161-2-8, Sum It Up: 11?Prize Payouts
Thu, Sep 29, 20165-9-4, Sum It Up: 18?Prize Payouts
Wed, Sep 28, 20160-1-3, Sum It Up: 4?Prize Payouts
Tue, Sep 27, 20164-9-1, Sum It Up: 14?Prize Payouts
Mon, Sep 26, 20167-6-0, Sum It Up: 13?Prize Payouts
Sat, Sep 24, 20162-3-7, Sum It Up: 12?Prize Payouts
Fri, Sep 23, 20162-8-4, Sum It Up: 14?Prize Payouts
Thu, Sep 22, 20166-2-5, Sum It Up: 13?Prize Payouts
Wed, Sep 21, 20166-1-1, Sum It Up: 8?Prize Payouts
Tue, Sep 20, 20169-9-5, Sum It Up: 23?Prize Payouts
Mon, Sep 19, 20167-7-2, Sum It Up: 16?Prize Payouts
Sat, Sep 17, 20160-5-0, Sum It Up: 5?Prize Payouts
Fri, Sep 16, 20168-5-8, Sum It Up: 21?Prize Payouts
Thu, Sep 15, 20169-2-6, Sum It Up: 17?Prize Payouts
Wed, Sep 14, 20168-9-4, Sum It Up: 21?Prize Payouts
Tue, Sep 13, 20163-6-1, Sum It Up: 10?Prize Payouts
Mon, Sep 12, 20166-0-6, Sum It Up: 12?Prize Payouts
Sat, Sep 10, 20165-2-6, Sum It Up: 13?Prize Payouts
Fri, Sep 9, 20161-7-7, Sum It Up: 15?Prize Payouts
Thu, Sep 8, 20160-3-2, Sum It Up: 5?Prize Payouts
Wed, Sep 7, 20163-8-9, Sum It Up: 20?Prize Payouts
Tue, Sep 6, 20168-3-8, Sum It Up: 19?Prize Payouts
Mon, Sep 5, 20168-4-4, Sum It Up: 16?Prize Payouts
Sat, Sep 3, 20165-6-9, Sum It Up: 20?Prize Payouts
Fri, Sep 2, 20161-5-3, Sum It Up: 9?Prize Payouts
Thu, Sep 1, 20161-3-5, Sum It Up: 9?Prize Payouts
Wed, Aug 31, 20169-5-8, Sum It Up: 22?Prize Payouts
Tue, Aug 30, 20169-0-7, Sum It Up: 16?Prize Payouts
Mon, Aug 29, 20161-6-1, Sum It Up: 8?Prize Payouts
Sat, Aug 27, 20161-8-0, Sum It Up: 9?Prize Payouts
Fri, Aug 26, 20164-6-3, Sum It Up: 13?Pr

draw       sum          front pair            str hits

463         13            02-05                 050, 059,054

180          9             13-15                 135,153

161          8             17-27                  177,

907          16            01-05                 050,013,059,054

Ideal> P 3 sum range 0 thru 27 should be simulated , the assumption is to locate the ' next sum/s'  based on current sum.

Lets take the draw 463 with the sum 13, the sum 13 becomes a prediction point within other points (regression). The points generated are the sums 17(593)-20(587)-17(791)-15(654)-18(369)-12(741)-6(024)-17(953)-17(197)-18(693)-13(481)-10(217)-5(023)-16(754)-16(934)-17(548)-5(104)-16(358)-11(614)-11(425)-

Notes and Observations:The current sum 13 is within the sums 17,20,17,15,18,12,6,17,18,13,10,5,16,16,17,5,16,11,11, each sums comes with a POSITIONAL PICK in brackets. Rank the sums by frequency, likewise their PICKS and observe the PAIRS.

SUM 17

593-----59-53

791----79-71

953--95-93

197--19-17

548---54-58

sum 16

754--75-74

934---93-94

358---35-38

sum 18

369--36-39

693---69-63

sum 11

614--61-64

425--42-45

Selecting Pairs takes few minutes if the ideal is well programmed, keep the sum range simulations to 200,600,800,1000 cycles.

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TX> P3 Morning

exas (TX) Pick 3 Morning Lottery Results

Draw Date  Results
Tue, Oct 11, 20169-0-1, Sum It Up: 10?Prize Payouts
Mon, Oct 10, 20169-1-5, Sum It Up: 15?Prize Payouts
Sat, Oct 8, 20167-8-4, Sum It Up: 19?Prize Payouts
Fri, Oct 7, 20160-5-4, Sum It Up: 9?Prize Payouts
Thu, Oct 6, 20165-9-6, Sum It Up: 20?Prize Payouts
Wed, Oct 5, 20166-2-5, Sum It Up: 13?Prize Payouts
Tue, Oct 4, 20160-5-9, Sum It Up: 14?Prize Payouts
Mon, Oct 3, 20161-1-5, Sum It Up: 7?Prize Payouts
Sat, Oct 1, 20165-0-5, Sum It Up: 10?Prize Payouts
Fri, Sep 30, 20161-2-8, Sum It Up: 11?Prize Payouts
Thu, Sep 29, 20165-9-4, Sum It Up: 18?Prize Payouts
Wed, Sep 28, 20160-1-3, Sum It Up: 4?Prize Payouts
Tue, Sep 27, 20164-9-1, Sum It Up: 14?Prize Payouts
Mon, Sep 26, 20167-6-0, Sum It Up: 13?Prize Payouts
Sat, Sep 24, 20162-3-7, Sum It Up: 12?Prize Payouts
Fri, Sep 23, 20162-8-4, Sum It Up: 14?Prize Payouts
Thu, Sep 22, 20166-2-5, Sum It Up: 13?Prize Payouts
Wed, Sep 21, 20166-1-1, Sum It Up: 8?Prize Payouts
Tue, Sep 20, 20169-9-5, Sum It Up: 23?Prize Payouts
Mon, Sep 19, 20167-7-2, Sum It Up: 16?Prize Payouts
Sat, Sep 17, 20160-5-0, Sum It Up: 5?Prize Payouts
Fri, Sep 16, 20168-5-8, Sum It Up: 21?Prize Payouts
Thu, Sep 15, 20169-2-6, Sum It Up: 17?Prize Payouts
Wed, Sep 14, 20168-9-4, Sum It Up: 21?Prize Payouts
Tue, Sep 13, 20163-6-1, Sum It Up: 10?Prize Payouts
Mon, Sep 12, 20166-0-6, Sum It Up: 12?Prize Payouts
Sat, Sep 10, 20165-2-6, Sum It Up: 13?Prize Payouts
Fri, Sep 9, 20161-7-7, Sum It Up: 15?Prize Payouts
Thu, Sep 8, 20160-3-2, Sum It Up: 5?Prize Payouts
Wed, Sep 7, 20163-8-9, Sum It Up: 20?Prize Payouts
Tue, Sep 6, 20168-3-8, Sum It Up: 19?Prize Payouts
Mon, Sep 5, 20168-4-4, Sum It Up: 16?Prize Payouts
Sat, Sep 3, 20165-6-9, Sum It Up: 20?Prize Payouts
Fri, Sep 2, 20161-5-3, Sum It Up: 9?Prize Payouts
Thu, Sep 1, 20161-3-5, Sum It Up: 9?Prize Payouts
Wed, Aug 31, 20169-5-8, Sum It Up: 22?Prize Payouts
Tue, Aug 30, 20169-0-7, Sum It Up: 16?Prize Payouts
Mon, Aug 29, 20161-6-1, Sum It Up: 8?Prize Payouts
Sat, Aug 27, 20161-8-0, Sum It Up: 9?Prize Payouts
Fri, Aug 26, 20164-6-3, Sum It Up: 13?Pr

draw       sum          front pair            str hits

463         13            02-05                 050, 059,054

180          9             13-15                 135,153

161          8             17-27                  177,

907          16            01-05                 050,013,059,054

Ideal> P 3 sum range 0 thru 27 should be simulated , the assumption is to locate the ' next sum/s'  based on current sum.

Lets take the draw 463 with the sum 13, the sum 13 becomes a prediction point within other points (regression). The points generated are the sums 17(593)-20(587)-17(791)-15(654)-18(369)-12(741)-6(024)-17(953)-17(197)-18(693)-13(481)-10(217)-5(023)-16(754)-16(934)-17(548)-5(104)-16(358)-11(614)-11(425)-

Notes and Observations:The current sum 13 is within the sums 17,20,17,15,18,12,6,17,18,13,10,5,16,16,17,5,16,11,11, each sums comes with a POSITIONAL PICK in brackets. Rank the sums by frequency, likewise their PICKS and observe the PAIRS.

SUM 17

593-----59-53

791----79-71

953--95-93

197--19-17

548---54-58

sum 16

754--75-74

934---93-94

358---35-38

sum 18

369--36-39

693---69-63

sum 11

614--61-64

425--42-45

Selecting Pairs takes few minutes if the ideal is well programmed, keep the sum range simulations to 200,600,800,1000 cycles.

I give up! This thread didn't get started before it was dead.

If this was just about picking pairs, I'd run PairsDue.

No calculation necessary.

Load program. Hit "Start."

See result.

Viola!

The left side of this chart was done at draw total 13641 (obviously same day as the first chart). Since then, the right side of the chart starting in column "I" is the results of the live draws....P3M = Pick 3 Morning, P3D = Pick 3 Day, E=Evening and N= Night.

IceT says, "Read it........Delicious....."

We have the 88, 37, 29, and 17 pair right at the top of the chart and look at the result.

Nothing to it, right? No guessing. The only time I look at the draw file is to update it.

You guys ought to know, I didn't just inadvertently leave that row, "10, 20, 30, 40,...etc.," in the first chart without it having meaning.

But I appreciate the comments.

Thanks!

G

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I have P3TX 1650 drawings.

The pair data does not match.

I avoid sums.

Nice frequency chart. C/P would work in my online filter.

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I am looking to match straight couples like ab xor bc for the local lottery. So the suggestion is to isolate straight pair sums.

A straight pair sum costs 1 euro and pays 50 euros. That means: 1:100 pays 50, or pay 1, get 49 for 0.01. Play all, then pay 100 and get -50.

Even better would be, make the sum of 1 digit. Play it in the straight double. Pay 10 to win 50 and get 40 for 1 of 100.

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Hello, for there pick4 5 conditions for quantities pairs / Odd 5/5
Within the formation pick4
then =
Pair = 4,3,2,1,0
Odd = 4,3,2,1,0
Example = 1596 = 3, odd and a couple
46801 = three pairs and odd
4569 =and odd 2pares
All pairs = 2,6,8,0
all Impares = 1,5,7,9
but you can position the quantities within the pick
By positioning 2 =
They are positions 6 = 1.2 1.3, 1.4 2.3 2.4, 2, 5, 3, 4, 3.5 for two positions
1.2 xx ................................. xx3,5
for three = have 4 positions 1,2,3 1,2,4 1,3,4 2.3, 4
1,2,3x ....................... x2,3,4
You can also faer in low / high inside / outside. Etc
All have 5/5 epode you do in excel please ???
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exe=

hello =
1637  3/1  position= 1,3,4
8276  3/1
5495  3/1
5417  3/1
4095   2/2 position  1,2 ..
Pair = 0,2,4,6,8
Odd = 1,3,5,7,9

4680

5779

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Hello, we have the digit repetition of the problem and the different digits
example =
5551= 4/0   repetition=555
5540= 2/2                      55
2225= 3/1                     222
1441= 2/2                11  44

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