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• LottoAce

  

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  According to most official lotteries sites, QP or Auto Picks account for 70% or more of their winners.  I've never come across a system that could do better.

  Thats because QP's make up the mass majority of any given drawing.
  Gail Howard explains this in her Master Lottery Guide.

  "know your limitations, but excede your expectations"
• RJOh

  

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  That is true because 95%of players buy qp because they are too lazy to put the work in on a program so it only goes to say 70% of the winners are that high. How many millions are bought on qp's verses player picks. So if you took a 50/50 spit on qp's and player picks and they had to spend same money on tickets i am sure player picks would out perform by a large margin. Just my opinion but hey we need them  qp players to build the jackpots.

  Everyone who buys tickets and win less than they spent help build the jackpots.  Assuming everyone posting on the prediction board put some thoughts into their picks, do they perform any better than the overall averages posted on official lotteries websites?

   * you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones * 

         
  
• garyo1954

  

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  Everyone who buys tickets and win less than they spent help build the jackpots.  Assuming everyone posting on the prediction board put some thoughts into their picks, do they perform any better than the overall averages posted on official lotteries websites?

  
  Good point.

  Which begs the question: How many people use any software when playing the large crackpot games? Certainly not the whole 30% who aren't buying quick picks since we're constantly reminded people win playing birthdays, ages, special occasions, lucky numbers or a favorite set, like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 (which probably makes up the largest amassed total of losing tickets of any set ever played).

  How many people use the "make an X with dots in this box" and "draw your initials in dots in this one" method?

  Then the larger the game matrix becomes, the harder it becomes to reduce it to a manageable level for the average player. In turn the larger matrix often makes the software or system they were using obsolete. How many people get fed up buying systems and software that becomes obsolete about the time they learn to use it?

  Possibly only 5% to 7% of the total number of lottery players (might) use software. (5% is inflated, but there might be more). Until that small number show an appreciable increase in winning larger prizes and jackpots, people are going to continue doing what the gaming officials tell them works.

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• RJOh

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by notmyday on Dec 4, 2016

  That is true because 95%of players buy qp because they are too lazy to put the work in on a program so it only goes to say 70% of the winners are that high. How many millions are bought on qp's verses player picks. So if you took a 50/50 spit on qp's and player picks and they had to spend same money on tickets i am sure player picks would out perform by a large margin. Just my opinion but hey we need them  qp players to build the jackpots.

  According to websites that publish such information only 70-80% of players buy QPs.  I suspect most of that 20-30% picking their own numbers are probably playing birthdays or other numbers they like rather than a system.

   * you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones * 

         
  
• garyo1954

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Dec 4, 2016

  According to websites that publish such information only 70-80% of players buy QPs.  I suspect most of that 20-30% picking their own numbers are probably playing birthdays or other numbers they like rather than a system.

  My apologies. Didn't mean crackpot games. It was supposed to say JACKPOT games.

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• RL-RANDOMLOGIC

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  Most if not all systems will give the player a slight advantage.  How much?  Not enough in most cases.  Some will do

  well using software, chats etc while others won't gain anything.   Some choose QP's thinking they are more likely to

  win a JP but the truth is, is that before the drawing all sets have a equal chance regardless how they are picked. 

  More JP's are won with QP's simply because they account for most ticket sales.  No system picked line will ever do

  worse than a quick pick overall.   If 30% of SP sales are JP winners then it would suggest that there is no advantage.

  It mostly comes down to lower level wins.  This information is not available for us to analyze so we may never know. 

  IMHO, everyone should use whichever method gives them the most hope.   The lottery should be fun and exciting,

  when it ceases to be, don't play. 

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• RL-RANDOMLOGIC

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  Quote: Originally posted by garyo1954 on Dec 4, 2016

  My apologies. Didn't mean crackpot games. It was supposed to say JACKPOT games.

  Gary

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• RJOh

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by garyo1954 on Dec 4, 2016

  My apologies. Didn't mean crackpot games. It was supposed to say JACKPOT games.

  If the spell check didn't catch it, it must be correct.

   * you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones * 

         
  
• garyo1954

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Dec 4, 2016

  Gary

  LOL

  RL

  RL,

  The dog sabotaged my post! His payback for singing the dog song too much today.....

  "I'm a dog

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  Every time I start singing that, he pulls his ears back, sits down and turns his head side to side.

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