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MonE!
Building a program that analyzes the same data regardless if it's a single digit game or a number game
is something I have had on the bucket list for a long time. Using rogues solves the program where the
only difference between pick-3 and mega millions is the number of rogue values. Pick-3 requires 5 rogues
to reduce to a single line and power ball takes 12. Each rogue is ranged 0 to 3 so the odds are 1 in 4 for
each rogue value.
If selecting at random we should expect to match 4/5=1.25 rogue values. I am getting many 3 and 4 rogue
digit matches and hit 2ea 5 of 5 in a 25 game test. IMHO it's worth pursuing.
RL
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Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Jun 3, 2017
MonE!
Building a program that analyzes the same data regardless if it's a single digit game or a number game
is something I have had on the bucket list for a long time. Using rogues solves the program where the
only difference between pick-3 and mega millions is the number of rogue values. Pick-3 requires 5 rogues
to reduce to a single line and power ball takes 12. Each rogue is ranged 0 to 3 so the odds are 1 in 4 for
each rogue value.
If selecting at random we should expect to match 4/5=1.25 rogue values. I am getting many 3 and 4 rogue
digit matches and hit 2ea 5 of 5 in a 25 game test. IMHO it's worth pursuing.
RL
RL
So a rogue is like a filter that has 4 patterns or values each, (?) say for example:
Rogue A = 1, 2, 3 and 4 values or patterns?
Rogue B = 1, 2, 3 and 4 values or patterns?
Etc,
Up to 5 Rogues for a pick 3 game = 20 values or patterns?
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The filters and their patterns or values have to be such that there is always 1 pick 3 left after all rogues and their values or patterns are applied?
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I am probably wrong on that?
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Maybe without wanting to, you and Lotto Architect (Tampakis), have taught me something (not the same thing) and that very rarely happens, that is I almost never find anything worth learning from anybody, lottery-wise.
Thanks!
Most (but not all) of what I know about the lottery, random and prediction I learned all by myself.
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My memory is not as it used to be many years ago, so now I forget more things more often, so it is possible that you might have told me about this thing sometime before and that I forgot about it, if so, I am sorry!
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Quote: Originally posted by MonEl on Jun 3, 2017
RL
So a rogue is like a filter that has 4 patterns or values each, (?) say for example:
Rogue A = 1, 2, 3 and 4 values or patterns?
Rogue B = 1, 2, 3 and 4 values or patterns?
Etc,
Up to 5 Rogues for a pick 3 game = 20 values or patterns?
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The filters and their patterns or values have to be such that there is always 1 pick 3 left after all rogues and their values or patterns are applied?
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I am probably wrong on that?
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Maybe without wanting to, you and Lotto Architect (Tampakis), have taught me something (not the same thing) and that very rarely happens, that is I almost never find anything worth learning from anybody, lottery-wise.
Thanks!
Most (but not all) of what I know about the lottery, random and prediction I learned all by myself.
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My memory is not as it used to be many years ago, so now I forget more things more often, so it is possible that you might have told me about this thing sometime before and that I forgot about it, if so, I am sorry!
A rogue in p3 = 0,1,2,3
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Quote: Originally posted by CARBOB on Jun 3, 2017
A rogue in p3 = 0,1,2,3
Bob
Explain, What is a rogue? and or define "rogue"
I still don't understand!
rogue, versus, what? 4 5 6 7 8 9 What are those then?
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rogue
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Do you mean to say "derivatives", that is to say that rogues are "derivatives" = patterns-values of a filter?
Anyhow, never mind, I got a few ideas anyway and that is all that I need at this time.
Thanks!
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RL the program sound Awesome will it handle the lunch Evening and the Night games. You just have to play one line right. The older i get just like the daily games i am having fun with daily games.
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Don't hold me to this, in my opinion, for P3. Haven't figured everything out, yet!!!
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Quote: Originally posted by CARBOB on Jun 3, 2017
Don't hold me to this, in my opinion, for P3. Haven't figured everything out, yet!!!
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33212 999 33213 Bob
Thanks!
Very interesting, I didn't know that or if I did, I forgot.
So there are or there might be 250 straight rogues with 4 values each or just 1000 rogues.
But to myself, it can be either or both:
250 with 4 each or 4 with 250 each, in other words a new filter.
Thanks!
Bob
You did that very very fast! You are a wizard!
Bob
I will call it "The Rogue" filter.
In this particular case, "the pick 3 straight rogue filter".
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I haven't come up with a method for tracking, yet. Not as computer smart as RL. Have forgotten almost everything I knew about programming and Excel.We are lucky to have some very good programmers that share their programs.
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Quote: Originally posted by CARBOB on Jun 3, 2017
I haven't come up with a method for tracking, yet. Not as computer smart as RL. Have forgotten almost everything I knew about programming and Excel.We are lucky to have some very good programmers that share their programs.
Bob, I hate to take over this thread, but:
Those have in common some things:
The so called ROGUEs at their end have either 0, 1, 2 or 3
There are 250 of each, 250 X 4 = 1000 pick 3 straights.
A filter that has 4 patterns and each pattern has 250 straight pick 3 numbers:
The Rogue filter has 4 patterns 0, 1, 2 and 3 and each pattern has 250 straight pick 3 numbers.
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Yes, it is a very good thing that some people do share some of their software.
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I don't know what a rogue is but if it represents 4 values then that can be expressed as 22
If you have 5 rogues values then 22 * 22 * 22 * 22 * 22 equals 210 which equals 1024 possible values which will cover all of the combinations in a Pick 3 game.
Jimmy
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Guys
Nothing special about rogues and I suppose one could use just about any method that breaks the game down
into defined blocks. The idea behind it is to shrink the pool of choices. In pick-3 we pick 3 digits each from a
pool of 0 to 9. Using rogues requires picking 5 digits from a pool of 0 to 3. If we select a value for any 4 of the
5 rogue positions and let the 5th run wild then a setup will produce 4 lines. If we let 2 of the 5 rogues run wild
then we have 16 lines. Which is easier, picking 3 digits from 0 to 9 or picking 5 digits from 0 to 3. We can't shorten
the odds for the game and like JW said the rogues for pick-3 - 1024. A pick-3 has 1000 total combinations so what
happens to the extra 24. These are the rogue values, ghost values that only exist so that any matrix can be divided
equally by 4. To get the total rogue positions for a matrix we multiply by 4 until the value is >= to the total lines in
the matrix.
5-39 = 575757 total combinationsrogue position A = 4
rogue position B = 4*4 = 16
rogue position C = 16*4 = 64
rogue position D = 64*4=256
rogue position E = 256*4=1024
rogue position F = 1024*4=4096
rogue position G = 4096*4=16384
rogue position H = 16384*4=65536
rogue position I = 65536*4=262144
rogue position J = 262144*4=1048576
All the so called rogue values, ie values greater than the total lines in the matrix will end up in block-3 in rogue-A
This is why with some games Rogue-A is limited to 0 to 2. Here is a picture of the old rogue program where I set
the first 8 of the 10 rogue values. Eight rogues will reduce a 5-39 to 16 lines and every line will match at least 3
numbers. The big question is, is it easier to pick 5 to 6 numbers to play from a pool of 39 or choose 8 rogues from
a pool of 0 to 3? Look at the history for Rogue A. 13 of the last 18 games it was a (1). The thing tries to predict
the rogue value for each position.
We start with dividing the total rogues into 4 groups where each group for my 5-39 will have 262144 rogue values.
inside each of those groups the we have 4 blocks where each block has 65536 rogues and inside each of those groups
we have 4 more blocks each have 16384. Each block is divided by 4 until each block only contains 1 rogue. Why do it
this way you might ask, lets take pick3 where we have 1000 total sets. If we divide 1000 by 4 we get 4 blocks of 250
lines. So far so good but when we divide 250 by 4 we get 62.5. Hmmmmm. now if we divide 62.5 by 4 we get 15.625.
Do we round up or round down? Each block needs to be divisible by 4 because the rogue as I call them are a address
of sorts.
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Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Jun 2, 2017
Frenchie
To add the new matrix means making changes to the source code and everything else that goes along with it.
IMHO the program has gone extinct. As you know DMP-BG was a version of my DMP-Pro that was built for my
personal use and as such it was not really designed for the masses. Matrix changes is one of the things that
was not considered when it was built. I would have to update the code, recompile it, build a new installer etc.
Once that is finished and uploaded there would be people who have never used it before and without a current
set of instructions the questions would poor in. I have long forgotten how to use many of the options and I don't
care to go back and relearn something that I will never use again. I just opened up a old copy and the auto update
tool did not work so that would also need to be fixed. I have scraped most everything except for the rogue and it
has been converted to a zero analysis one line generating program. Even the CF program which took over a year to
write is on it's way out. All these old programs work great if the user can come up with good choices but there are
much better ways to generate lines. My new Thing program hit 2 pick-3 straights in 25 games playing one line per
game. That's $1200.00 for a $25.00 investment and all I had to do was hit the update button then the run button.
For me, going back to the DMP program series would be like clamping my balls in a vice while beating myself with a whip.
Hope you understand.
RL
Balls in a vice and a whip.
Now THAT'S a visual that's hard to forget.
CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN
A DOLLAR AND A DREAM (OR $2)
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The "Thing" program is not really a predictor but a automated analysis program that analyzes the rogue history
and tries to pick the correct rogue value for each rogue position. My test have shown that the rogues are somewhat
predictable at least for pick-3 and pick-4 games. Hitting all 10 for my 5-39 is not a easy chore but I can always stop
the analysis at 5 or 6 and then play however many lines my budget allows from that list. In a 5-39, 6-rogue setup
there will be 256 lines generated and every line will be a match-2 or better.
General hit rate for a 6 rogue digit 256 line setup for 5-39 results
match 0 = 0
match 1 = 0
match 2 = 52 $1.00
match 3 = 166 $10.00
match 4 = 37 $250.00
match 5 = 1 Average JP = $142,000
When I predict 6 rogues for my 5-39 my odds are 1 in 1 for any line I play because every line will cover the cost
of the play.
RL
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LOL Balls In A Vise that sure hurt.
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LOL,
That was the most painful thing I could imagine. I spent years and years working on many of those
old programs but they are harder to kill than Frankenstein's monster. Just when I think it's dead and
gone somehow it gets a recharge. As a kid I loved the old universal pictures Frankenstein movies. I
guess some things never die.
RL
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