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• cottoneyedjoe

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Tinkermen on May 13, 2019

  Not at all you are not understanding what I'm suggesting. A community project to inform the public on information their not aware of is just that.

  The reports of Data gets named whatever the community wants to name it.

  How the information is presented is how the community determines it wants it to look and how they want to explain it.

  Where the project is located on the web is where the community can find a place do and maintain the project.

  There is no "I" and there is no "Tinkermen Lotto Report". Your not aware of how big this information would change the game if you would get it out there.

  The lottery is about matching a specific set of numbers, not a pattern. Even though the pattern "3 evens and 3 odds" is more likely to be drawn than the pattern "6 evens," the specific combination {2-3-4-15-16 + 17} is no more likely to be drawn than {12-14-16-18-20 + 22}. They both have the exact same chance of being drawn, and the exact same chance as the specific combination {1-2-3-4-5 + 6}. The lottery balls do not know what numbers are painted on them, and lack sentience to coordinate their movements to fulfill patterns. A lot of us have gone down this road of partitioning the numbers and calculating probabilities of certain patterns being drawn, and most of us have realized it's not very fruitful for predicting winning combinations. But I understand that a lottery math enthusiast needs to see it for him/herself by doing the math, rather than just taking a stranger's word for it.

  You'd be better off just selling the charts and excel file from your website and ebooks on Amazon. Plenty of people do and make plenty of money because there is no shortage of people willing to pay for lottery systems, whether they are original or not, whether they have predictive potential or not. As you've certainly put a lot of effort into making them look nice, and they are mathematically correct, I see nothing wrong with trying to make money off of your hard work.
• garyo1954

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Tinkermen on May 13, 2019

  Not at all you are not understanding what I'm suggesting. A community project to inform the public on information their not aware of is just that.

  The reports of Data gets named whatever the community wants to name it.

  How the information is presented is how the community determines it wants it to look and how they want to explain it.

  Where the project is located on the web is where the community can find a place do and maintain the project.

  There is no "I" and there is no "Tinkermen Lotto Report". Your not aware of how big this information would change the game if you would get it out there.

  
  You were suppose to to SHOCK and SURPRISE US! Little by little this SHOCK AND SURPRISE has been turned into something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!
  
  Then it was a GENERAL DISCUSSION ON MATH PRINCIPLES.
  
  Then you remembered you once spoke to Gayle Howard!
  Then oh yeah, "I'm a Wiki Editor."
  
  You just keep dropping a tad bit more to entice us into something that benefits YOU. All you want is FREE information. 
  
  Mr. B, RL, and AllenB have all said you're not going to change the world with whatever you put out.

  The information has been on Lottery Post (among other pages) for YEARS! Has the world changed?
  But if you want to get this information out there.....
  
  Tell people to come to Lottery Post. That way they get the information and firsthand explanations to learn why we do what we do personally.
   
  At any rate, you've taken this ship way off course. It's no longer about SHOCKING us and it's not a general discussion on math principles. What it has become is, "Let me fulfill my DREAM with your work!"
  
  As I see it, this is a sucker punch. Dance around and split hairs all you want but the bottom line is you want FREE information for your specific purposes (like YOUR newspaper article).
  

  Why not tell the guy who wants to do the article to drop in and talk to us? Duck, duck, duck.......yep! It's a duck!

  
  Its your dream.
  If you want it, you'll do the work and you'll make it happen.
  

   

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  I'm probably here unless I'm not.
  Dreaming would be a perfectly useless function if it's only purpose was to entertain.
• Tinkermen

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by cottoneyedjoe on May 13, 2019

  The lottery is about matching a specific set of numbers, not a pattern. Even though the pattern "3 evens and 3 odds" is more likely to be drawn than the pattern "6 evens," the specific combination {2-3-4-15-16 + 17} is no more likely to be drawn than {12-14-16-18-20 + 22}. They both have the exact same chance of being drawn, and the exact same chance as the specific combination {1-2-3-4-5 + 6}. The lottery balls do not know what numbers are painted on them, and lack sentience to coordinate their movements to fulfill patterns. A lot of us have gone down this road of partitioning the numbers and calculating probabilities of certain patterns being drawn, and most of us have realized it's not very fruitful for predicting winning combinations. But I understand that a lottery math enthusiast needs to see it for him/herself by doing the math, rather than just taking a stranger's word for it.

  You'd be better off just selling the charts and excel file from your website and ebooks on Amazon. Plenty of people do and make plenty of money because there is no shortage of people willing to pay for lottery systems, whether they are original or not, whether they have predictive potential or not. As you've certainly put a lot of effort into making them look nice, and they are mathematically correct, I see nothing wrong with trying to make money off of your hard work.

  I think what you're saying here is the root of the problem Joe, because somehow this what would be amazing and vital information to the public, has only ever been sold to people or not even ever sold as information because it doesn't provide a "What's Next" answer.

  But if an entire Database was created for every lottery in the world, to the public it would give them at least the "What and Why it happens in lotto"  that they've never known about, changing millions of people in how they play and enjoy the game of lotto.

  "Lotteries are made up of independent random draws, which are mathematically deterministic and that lead to probable outcomes over the course of time, due to the law of large numbers"

                                                               - John Francis/Edvin Hitlner
• Tinkermen

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Tinkermen on May 13, 2019

  I think what you're saying here is the root of the problem Joe, because somehow this what would be amazing and vital information to the public, has only ever been sold to people or not even ever sold as information because it doesn't provide a "What's Next" answer.

  But if an entire Database was created for every lottery in the world, to the public it would give them at least the "What and Why it happens in lotto"  that they've never known about, changing millions of people in how they play and enjoy the game of lotto.

  Sorry I gave you all of these ugly impessions G, my bad, but it wasn't my intent nor goal.

  "Lotteries are made up of independent random draws, which are mathematically deterministic and that lead to probable outcomes over the course of time, due to the law of large numbers"

                                                               - John Francis/Edvin Hitlner
• cottoneyedjoe

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Tinkermen on May 13, 2019

  I think what you're saying here is the root of the problem Joe, because somehow this what would be amazing and vital information to the public, has only ever been sold to people or not even ever sold as information because it doesn't provide a "What's Next" answer.

  But if an entire Database was created for every lottery in the world, to the public it would give them at least the "What and Why it happens in lotto"  that they've never known about, changing millions of people in how they play and enjoy the game of lotto.

  The path of least frustration would be to continue with your website and Youtube channel, post your findings and data bases there. It doesn't look like there is much of an audience for you here. As I said before, I wish you good of luck with all of it.
• Mr-B 216

  

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  I feel your biggest hurdle will be in getting the majority of your audience to understand your reports. Probability, odds, evens, combinations, permutations, wheeling, sums, decades, groups, math, the list goes on and on. Showing the people across the world your info is easy.... getting their interest will be the challenge IMO. Just mention the word MATH and watch how many of them run in the opposite direction!

  You will need online calculators to help with the math. There are already several out there to help with that, or better yet, have your own as a part of your web site. Pictures are also very helpful when trying to explain how things are done. Starting and maintaining your own web site is not difficult. NOT a message board type of web site (just ask Todd), but rather an information type of web site. There are plenty of resources on the web to guide you along.

  Good Luck!

  What goes around comes around.
• garyo1954

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Tinkermen on May 13, 2019

  Sorry I gave you all of these ugly impessions G, my bad, but it wasn't my intent nor goal.

  Let's review your first post.....
  
  "Both, a large college and a large newspaper are currently involved in helping me to take this discovery
  public shortly. But, for both the 'Lottery Post' website and for other areas on the web like 'Wikipedia
  Encyclopedia' and for other locations around the web, I need help in howthis mathematical discovery in
  lotto will be presented and explained as an overview topic of Lottery Mathematics in general and how
  they are used to calculate lotteries.

  "In order to do so, I need the members of this Forum that are interested in helping me solve this
  general explanation, to review and help me come to a determination as to how 'Lottery Mathematics'
  will be presented and explained to the general public in the future based on this discovery."

   

  "Large college and large newspaper"......."helping me take this discovery public"...."other areas on the web like Wikipedia Encyclopedia"..... and the biggie "I NEED HELP!"
  
  I said I was skeptical on the first page. How is it, you have all the resources interested and can't take a short walk to the math department at the college? Then I look how neatly you lead off as being information for Lottery Post, but go on to add Wikipedia, and further shadow that with "other locations on the web." 

  You even state your purpose is to use the information we provide to present and explain your "discovery" to the general public.
  
  Are you saying on page 5 this wasn't your intent or goal?
  
  Then where I mention "Tinkerman Lotto Report" and you say there is none. So let's look at page three, your post......
  
  "Tinkermen Lotto Report – Lottery Post Challenge"

  "I would like to officially challenge All of the Lottery Post Forum Members here to collectively Create,
  Inform, Change and Make History TOGETHER!!!!"

  "Everyone I have shown the Tinkermen Lotto Report to is beyond surprised to learn that certain groups of
  numbers tend to be drawn at a higher rate than other Patterns and Groups......"
  
  But, but, but......you said there is no Tinkerman Lotto Report! How could you show something to others that does not exist?

  "I have a reporter ready to write the story and a large college university that could probably help us with all of the foreign languages we’d need to deal with throughout the world.Besides being affiliated
  with a large university is a very important aspect I believe to giving a project of this type
  scientific credibility, so it doesn’t just look like a bunch of Lotto or Math Enthusiast are sitting
  around trying to make a buck $$$. I personally want to be a part of something bigger that helps
  thousands of people and makes history and we all have the collective talent and ability right here
  to do just that!"
  
  What? Here we go with the reporter again.......and a large college university that will probably help with all the languages, but doesn't have a math department?
  
  IF you want it affiliated with a large university to give it scientific credibility why present it to Lottery Post except to get the FREE math you need for a newspaper article about your discovery, your report, your website, your Wiki page, (or maybe your thesis)?
  
  The only transparent statement you have made throughout these five pages is in the statement, "I WANT TO MAKE HISTORY..."
  

  There are many other statements cloaked, occluded, vague with 'us,' 'community,' 'together,' 'as a group,' which  say, "I need FREE help to achieve my dream of making the Tinkerman Lotto Report historic!"
  

  How can you say on Page 5 this was/is not your intent or goal?
  
  G

  I'm probably here unless I'm not.
  Dreaming would be a perfectly useless function if it's only purpose was to entertain.
• Tinkermen

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by garyo1954 on May 14, 2019

  Let's review your first post.....
  
  "Both, a large college and a large newspaper are currently involved in helping me to take this discovery
  public shortly. But, for both the 'Lottery Post' website and for other areas on the web like 'Wikipedia
  Encyclopedia' and for other locations around the web, I need help in howthis mathematical discovery in
  lotto will be presented and explained as an overview topic of Lottery Mathematics in general and how
  they are used to calculate lotteries.

  "In order to do so, I need the members of this Forum that are interested in helping me solve this
  general explanation, to review and help me come to a determination as to how 'Lottery Mathematics'
  will be presented and explained to the general public in the future based on this discovery."

   

  "Large college and large newspaper"......."helping me take this discovery public"...."other areas on the web like Wikipedia Encyclopedia"..... and the biggie "I NEED HELP!"
  
  I said I was skeptical on the first page. How is it, you have all the resources interested and can't take a short walk to the math department at the college? Then I look how neatly you lead off as being information for Lottery Post, but go on to add Wikipedia, and further shadow that with "other locations on the web." 

  You even state your purpose is to use the information we provide to present and explain your "discovery" to the general public.
  
  Are you saying on page 5 this wasn't your intent or goal?
  
  Then where I mention "Tinkerman Lotto Report" and you say there is none. So let's look at page three, your post......
  
  "Tinkermen Lotto Report – Lottery Post Challenge"

  "I would like to officially challenge All of the Lottery Post Forum Members here to collectively Create,
  Inform, Change and Make History TOGETHER!!!!"

  "Everyone I have shown the Tinkermen Lotto Report to is beyond surprised to learn that certain groups of
  numbers tend to be drawn at a higher rate than other Patterns and Groups......"
  
  But, but, but......you said there is no Tinkerman Lotto Report! How could you show something to others that does not exist?

  "I have a reporter ready to write the story and a large college university that could probably help us with all of the foreign languages we’d need to deal with throughout the world.Besides being affiliated
  with a large university is a very important aspect I believe to giving a project of this type
  scientific credibility, so it doesn’t just look like a bunch of Lotto or Math Enthusiast are sitting
  around trying to make a buck $$$. I personally want to be a part of something bigger that helps
  thousands of people and makes history and we all have the collective talent and ability right here
  to do just that!"
  
  What? Here we go with the reporter again.......and a large college university that will probably help with all the languages, but doesn't have a math department?
  
  IF you want it affiliated with a large university to give it scientific credibility why present it to Lottery Post except to get the FREE math you need for a newspaper article about your discovery, your report, your website, your Wiki page, (or maybe your thesis)?
  
  The only transparent statement you have made throughout these five pages is in the statement, "I WANT TO MAKE HISTORY..."
  

  There are many other statements cloaked, occluded, vague with 'us,' 'community,' 'together,' 'as a group,' which  say, "I need FREE help to achieve my dream of making the Tinkerman Lotto Report historic!"
  

  How can you say on Page 5 this was/is not your intent or goal?
  
  G

  I love ya G, and I’m very grateful to you and everyone here in the forum for taking their time to try and help me learn new things that I didn’t know about Lotto Mathematics, before I came to LP.

  Sorry G, I did think it was my discovery before I came here, I was led to believe otherwise.

  I believe I see a way to help people around the world with information they don’t know about yet (That many here do as I quickly learned) and I came here in particular to get educational insight about a particular piece of information concerning that subject, so I can go on to pass that information around freely to everyone. As I said in an earlier post:

  “I actually came looking and asking this Forum and this community for help with a 'General Explanation' as to how to understand and explain to the rest of the world (Who has absolutely no idea that Lotto Probability Draw Pattern Mathematics) or (Past Draws can be separated into groups like that) even exist”

  This is not about “I” or my “ego”; this is about helping people all over the world. To do so it takes all of the people and things you’re describing, it’s part of the process in getting this amazing information about Lotto Probability Draw Pattern Mathematics to the public. It doesn’t matter what the report is called or named or who creates it or spreads the word about it. In the end it’s about getting unknown information to the world they don’t know about that could help many of them.

  Like you said in an earlier post: “This is the Mathematics Forum. Its a place to discuss the connection between math and lottery”

  But I didn’t get the answer I was looking for yet, I’m getting unusually and aggressively attacked, for the exact same thing you said this place is for “Discussing the connection between math and lottery” because you continue to think this is about “I” or that I’m up to something personally that you’re not in favor of. I’m really sorry you feel that way and you’re taking everything I’ve said out of context and rearranging sentences and quotes and everything I’ve said in a away to support your belief to accomplish the attack. I will now leave this forum after I post this reply, because I'd rather not be associated with this type of behavior. If you post a reply sorry I wont read it because you have basically chased me out of here and I don't desire to do this with you any more or come back to this website again. 

  I lastly contend and defend that I’m not doing anything other than trying to spread information FREELY, that’s what they teach us as Wikipedia editors to do and that’s why first Todd allowed me to come in here and start this post thread:

    "Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's what we're doing."– Jimmy Wales

  "Lotteries are made up of independent random draws, which are mathematically deterministic and that lead to probable outcomes over the course of time, due to the law of large numbers"

                                                               - John Francis/Edvin Hitlner
• Mr-B 216

  

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  I understand your reason for wanting to leave LP Tinkermen, and I'm sorry it ends this way.

  I also now have a better idea of what it is you are attempting to do, and even though it appears to be repetitive info to some us here, including me, I can see how the information contained in the reports can be valuable for newbies to lottery mathematics. If presented in such a way as to make the mathematical process easier to understand, and in an interesting manner, then you may have something.

  What goes around comes around.
• RL-RANDOMLOGIC

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  I have a few name suggestions for your study.

  1. Fallacy -VS- Fact

  2. Finite Lottery math

  3. Little known lottery math revealed

  4. Play smarter lottery numbers

  5. Lottery math everyone needs to know

  6. Before playing Q-picks, read this.

  7. Never again play Q-picks

  8. Finite lottery math for dummies

  Around 70% of lottery sales are quick-picks, no analyzing, no math, just a dollar and

  and a dream.  Over half of the remaining 30% play birthdays, license plates, digits from

  a digital clock etc.....  Those who take this seriously are a very small group of people and

  the percent that could use the information in a meaningful way is even less.

  I wish you nothing but success in your endeavor but the tides are against you.  Not because

  of the information but because people don't seem to care.

  RL

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• RL-RANDOMLOGIC

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    "Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's what we're doing."– Jimmy Wales

  "Information without knowledge, wisdom and understanding, destructive"

  RL

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• JADELottery

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Tinkermen on May 9, 2019

  Hello everyone,

  I am a brand-new member here to Lottery Post. My name is John Francis and I have made a discovery in lotto mathematics. The discovery has been validated and does prove that the game of Lotto is Not based on Random numbered events, but is Mathematically Deterministic. I am currently seeking help from the members of this Mathematics Forum, as most of you understand Lottery Mathematics more so than the general public.

  Both, a large college and a large newspaper are currently involved in helping me to take this discovery public shortly. But, for both the 'Lottery Post' website and for other areas on the web like 'Wikipedia Encyclopedia' and for other locations around the web, I need help in how this mathematical discovery in lotto will be presented and explained as an overview topic of Lottery Mathematics in general and how they are used to calculate lotteries.

  In order to do so, I need the members of this Forum that are interested in helping me solve this general explanation, to review and help me come to a determination as to how 'Lottery Mathematics' will be presented and explained to the general public in the future based on this discovery.

  To do so, we need to first start by the members of this Forum to learn about this discovery and then for us to start a discussion together. Please review the following Youtube introduction video I have created and then go to the website and download the Lotto Mathematics reports I do have completed at this time.  https://www.tinkermen.org/  Please pass this information around to whomever you believe would be interested.

  Discussion about the topic should take place within this thread. Be prepared to be a little shocked at what your about to review and learn about and thank you for your time.

  John Francis

  Why was the video removed by the user?

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• garyo1954

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Tinkermen on May 14, 2019

  I love ya G, and I’m very grateful to you and everyone here in the forum for taking their time to try and help me learn new things that I didn’t know about Lotto Mathematics, before I came to LP.

  Sorry G, I did think it was my discovery before I came here, I was led to believe otherwise.

  I believe I see a way to help people around the world with information they don’t know about yet (That many here do as I quickly learned) and I came here in particular to get educational insight about a particular piece of information concerning that subject, so I can go on to pass that information around freely to everyone. As I said in an earlier post:

  “I actually came looking and asking this Forum and this community for help with a 'General Explanation' as to how to understand and explain to the rest of the world (Who has absolutely no idea that Lotto Probability Draw Pattern Mathematics) or (Past Draws can be separated into groups like that) even exist”

  This is not about “I” or my “ego”; this is about helping people all over the world. To do so it takes all of the people and things you’re describing, it’s part of the process in getting this amazing information about Lotto Probability Draw Pattern Mathematics to the public. It doesn’t matter what the report is called or named or who creates it or spreads the word about it. In the end it’s about getting unknown information to the world they don’t know about that could help many of them.

  Like you said in an earlier post: “This is the Mathematics Forum. Its a place to discuss the connection between math and lottery”

  But I didn’t get the answer I was looking for yet, I’m getting unusually and aggressively attacked, for the exact same thing you said this place is for “Discussing the connection between math and lottery” because you continue to think this is about “I” or that I’m up to something personally that you’re not in favor of. I’m really sorry you feel that way and you’re taking everything I’ve said out of context and rearranging sentences and quotes and everything I’ve said in a away to support your belief to accomplish the attack. I will now leave this forum after I post this reply, because I'd rather not be associated with this type of behavior. If you post a reply sorry I wont read it because you have basically chased me out of here and I don't desire to do this with you any more or come back to this website again. 

  I lastly contend and defend that I’m not doing anything other than trying to spread information FREELY, that’s what they teach us as Wikipedia editors to do and that’s why first Todd allowed me to come in here and start this post thread:

    "Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's what we're doing."– Jimmy Wales

  You spread more crap than any manure spreader I've ever seen.
  
  All these noble ideas you contend come down to, "I want a newspaper article, I want a webpage and I want to write a Wiki. I want to make history!"  (The fact you posted your website claiming we'd be shocked at your discovery puts a glitch in the "I'm just wanting to spread the word" you profess now.)
  
  You mistake fact for attack. You claim no ego and yet, there is your ego on public display. 
  
  

  “I actually came looking and asking this Forum and this community for help with a 'General Explanation' as to how to understand and explain to the rest of the world (Who has absolutely no idea that Lotto Probability Draw Pattern Mathematics) or (Past Draws can be separated into groups like that) even exist”
  
  Unfortunate you didn't stick to the plan. You brought up the newspaper, the college, website, Wiki, and some "community" idea.  And your second statement leaves me to wonder how you know what the rest of the world knows if you didn't know the things you were shown here? (I also stated you didn't do any research.)
  
  Like you said in an earlier post: “This is the Mathematics Forum. Its a place to discuss the connection between math and lottery”
  
  Thanks for quoting me! I like that! I like that I like that because it shows how far off course you are. Notice we're at LOTTERY POST.
  This isn't UNICEF, RED CROSS, or SALVATION ARMY. If I wanted to teach the world to sing, I'd join the P.E.A.C.E. Corps. And we don't profess to be Wikipedia. But my quote begs the question, "What does a newspaper article, a web site, and a Wiki page have to do with math?
  

  No apology and no reason to apologize. I was upfront that I was skeptic, that I would ask hard questions, and you've failed to show why the college won't do the math. You've failed to show why the rest of the world cares. You failed to answer why the rest of the world is entitled to something they won't work for. And you've failed in explaining why people of the world will flock to your website to get the same information they can get right here at Lottery Post.
  
  "I lastly contend and defend that I’m not doing anything other than trying to spread information FREELY, that’s what they teach us as Wikipedia editors to do....."

  What is that the fourth/fifth mention of being a Wiki editor (but you have no ego)? You can't be seriously expecting anyone to adhere to a code you chose to adopt. If you wear a pancake on your head, does everyone around you wear on pancake on their head as well?

  The guilt trip won't work. Nobody ran you off, nobody asked you to leave. It was your choice.  YOUR CHOICE.
  
  I wish you all the luck in the world with your endeavor.
  Your dream.
  Do the work; make it happen.
  
  G
  

   

   

  I'm probably here unless I'm not.
  Dreaming would be a perfectly useless function if it's only purpose was to entertain.
• AdvancedAlgos

  

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  The best way to test any theory about a lotto system is to generate a list of numbers before each drawing using the system and seeing if it works. Back testing systems has flaws sometimes. 

   

  Post up a big list of numbers for a lotto and if when compared to randomly generated numbers your list outperformed by a lot, maybe its worth looking at.
• Stack47

  

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  In response to Tinkermen

  Quote: Originally posted by Tinkermen on May 14, 2019

  I love ya G, and I’m very grateful to you and everyone here in the forum for taking their time to try and help me learn new things that I didn’t know about Lotto Mathematics, before I came to LP.

  Sorry G, I did think it was my discovery before I came here, I was led to believe otherwise.

  I believe I see a way to help people around the world with information they don’t know about yet (That many here do as I quickly learned) and I came here in particular to get educational insight about a particular piece of information concerning that subject, so I can go on to pass that information around freely to everyone. As I said in an earlier post:

  “I actually came looking and asking this Forum and this community for help with a 'General Explanation' as to how to understand and explain to the rest of the world (Who has absolutely no idea that Lotto Probability Draw Pattern Mathematics) or (Past Draws can be separated into groups like that) even exist”

  This is not about “I” or my “ego”; this is about helping people all over the world. To do so it takes all of the people and things you’re describing, it’s part of the process in getting this amazing information about Lotto Probability Draw Pattern Mathematics to the public. It doesn’t matter what the report is called or named or who creates it or spreads the word about it. In the end it’s about getting unknown information to the world they don’t know about that could help many of them.

  Like you said in an earlier post: “This is the Mathematics Forum. Its a place to discuss the connection between math and lottery”

  But I didn’t get the answer I was looking for yet, I’m getting unusually and aggressively attacked, for the exact same thing you said this place is for “Discussing the connection between math and lottery” because you continue to think this is about “I” or that I’m up to something personally that you’re not in favor of. I’m really sorry you feel that way and you’re taking everything I’ve said out of context and rearranging sentences and quotes and everything I’ve said in a away to support your belief to accomplish the attack. I will now leave this forum after I post this reply, because I'd rather not be associated with this type of behavior. If you post a reply sorry I wont read it because you have basically chased me out of here and I don't desire to do this with you any more or come back to this website again. 

  I lastly contend and defend that I’m not doing anything other than trying to spread information FREELY, that’s what they teach us as Wikipedia editors to do and that’s why first Todd allowed me to come in here and start this post thread:

    "Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's what we're doing."– Jimmy Wales

  "for help with a 'General Explanation' as to how to understand and explain to the rest of the world (Who has absolutely no idea that Lotto Probability Draw Pattern Mathematics) or (Past Draws can be separated into groups like that) even exist”"

  The thing is we had that discussion last month, but without the author ever explaining their definition of basic patterns. I see nothing in your analysis disproving what I said in that thread "If there are patterns, they are simply probability plus or minus standard deviation."

  "My history does actually, in fact, go back to Gayle Howard herself, as people within the lottery industry itself, who were associated with my approach and viewpoint at the time it was being analyzed and validated."

  My first computer experience with 5/39, 6/49, etc jackpot games system was a Robert Serotic system. The idea was to divide the numbers into "hot, average, and cold" wheel "YOUR PICKS" into a 42 line 4 if 6 of 18 numbers wheel. Gail Howard sold pencil and paper wheels that used a template and in the front of her book was the same old "WHEEL YOUR PICKS" disclaimer. 

  It look likes you're saying "everything old is new again" without fully understanding what the "old" was.