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Quote: Originally posted by adobea78 on Nov 11, 2023
Let's say I want to remove 708 from R2-55992244001133886677. I will first make it R2-55992244011338667 and then R2-55992244113366. What is the point of removing one digit at a time when you have to remove both of them at the end?
filtering digit by digit you save potential repeats, funny thing you guys don't filter to end in your examples but rather jump to conclusion. The ideal is to generate patterns/ few picks to play, I can not explain every tiny details of workout. I am done here, time consuming trying to say the same thing over and over.
Hi Adobea,
I was reducing down to "3 digit" in my other full examples when I completed via sets.
I was less concerned with doing that and more concerned with "fundamentally" doing things properly when I was asking my recent additional questions...
I think the issue is that some of your examples aren't always fully following the instructions or there are a couple errors which causes confusion when you are trying to follow very closely.
you have examples where you are mostly removing digits R2 through R8 and then when im getting different patterns you are advising thats because I should only remove from R2, but you aren't doing that so that can't be the reason? thats a fair confusion.
and now youre saying you told me that only because its easier not because its how you should utilize optimally?...thats just confusing
I am just trying to utilize the strings in the most optimal way.
I understand when people just ask for answers and don't even try or put in the work to do examples, but I have been putting in the work trying to learn with full examples so I think that's pretty unfair to say "im done here" when some are putting in the full work to learn.
Whats the point in even posting the system then?
I will continue to try examples and learn, like I said I just want to progressively get better and learn. I appreciate your feedback.
I will just continue to try examples if you could still provide feedback on the work I post would be greatly appreciated, I am not expecting clarification moving forward unless I show the work. thank you
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Quote: Originally posted by adobea78 on Nov 11, 2023
Let's say I want to remove 708 from R2-55992244001133886677. I will first make it R2-55992244011338667 and then R2-55992244113366. What is the point of removing one digit at a time when you have to remove both of them at the end?
filtering digit by digit you save potential repeats, funny thing you guys don't filter to end in your examples but rather jump to conclusion. The ideal is to generate patterns/ few picks to play, I can not explain every tiny details of workout. I am done here, time consuming trying to say the same thing over and over.
for the most part I agree I overcomplicated things, I am going to keep trying/posting examples and keep learning
I'm re-reading your feedback and pieces are coming together.
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Quote: Originally posted by carter7 on Nov 9, 2023
Lets re-examine my example and follow the rest of your instructions..
you said "Try to complete the pattern creation with the next draw" so lets see overall patterns if I complete the pattern creation with a 3rd draw..
(I also didn't add doubles with initial example I will add those as well)
MON 10/09/23
6-4-5
apply 645 to the 4 strings...
99220011338877
22990088337711
88117700993322
77001199883322
I believe I see patterns..
920-290-387-873-701-170
front pairs = 92, 29,09,90,38,87,17,70,71 > hits 091 (oct 18th), 290 (straight oct 26th), 921 (oct 31), 903 (nov 3)
double front pairs: 99-22-88-11-00 – hits 998 (19th) , 522(not front pair oct 20), 224 (Nov 2),
lets reduce further next draw 772…
TUE 10/10/23
7-7-2
9900113388
9900883311
8811009933
0011998833
901-109- 831-138-983-893-938
front pairs- 90-09-83-13-98-89-93-38 - hits 091 (oct 18th), 903 (Nov 3rd)
double front pairs: 99-00-11-88 – hits 998 (Oct 19th), 880 (Nov 5th)
finish pattern with 3rd set 342…
WED 10/11/23
3-4-2
99001188
99008811
88110099
00119988
901-109-018-081-810-198-918-981-881-188-990
Front pairs: 90-10-01-18-81-19-91-98-88-99 – hits 105 (oct 14th) , 998 (oct 19th), 903 (nov 3), 880 (Nov 5)
Front doubles: 99-88-00-11 – hits 998 (oct 19th) , (880 Nov 5th)
Overall Data Patterns Observed
- Top duplicate Front pairs in data: 90-09-38-98
top front pair 90 appeared 3 times overall + 09 2 times = total of 5 times >>>> hits 091 (oct 18th), 290 (straight oct 26th)
top front pair 38 appeared 2 times + (83 once) = total 3 times >>> no hits
top front pair 98 appeared 2 times = total times 2 >>> hits 998 (oct 19th)
those are all front pairs that appeared atleast 2 times
- other duplicate pairs in data but not in order: 17-18-19-29-01
01 >> hits 091 (oct 18th)
29>> hits 290 (straight oct 26th)
19>> hits 921 (oct 31), 091 (oct 18th)
- Top front doubles were 99-88-11 > hits 998 (oct 19th) , 880 (Nov 5), (22 came but was only in the data once 522 october 20th)
Total overall hits:
105 (oct 14th)
091 (oct 18th),
998 (oct 19th)
522(not front pair oct 20)
290 (straight from created sets oct 26th)
921 (oct 31)
903 (nov 3)
224 (Nov 2)
880 (Nov 5)
Overall final observations from data:
most duplicate front pair in data 90-38-98 coming >> hits 091 (oct 18th), 290 (straight oct 26th)
most duplicate front doubles 99-88-11 >> hits 998 (oct 19th) , 880 (Nov 5)
other duplicate pairs (not same order) 17-18-19-29-01 >>hits 091 (oct 18th), 290 (straight oct 26th), 921 (oct 31), 091 (oct 18th)
Of 22 combinations formed from patterns >> 290 (straight oct 26th)
**Biggest observation from data: front pairs 90-38-98-99-88-11 all likely to hit, how to optimally reduce this further? Am I missing something more? **
Is this what you mean by evaluating patterns?
Are some of these hits too late to fit into “waging strategy” + timeframe?
I am now wondering how may I have optimized combinations with this worked data? Can you assist with example by chance? (90-38-98-99-88-11 all likely to come)
Any insights would be appreciated, thank you!
Hi Adobea, you did say use the strings to find patterns.
The one big example I completed I did it following one of the examples you provided and I got alot of hits just wasn't sure how to optimally reduce sets.
However with the amount of hits I got in my example I think I found a way to reduce the sets to catch some of the hits if I were to get a similar result again.
Lets consider some of the things you say to watch for:
1. Pattern recognition - (most duplicated front pairs 90-38-98 / 99-88-11 )
2.Selecting digits - (selecting those top front pairs and matching with data in the strings)
3. type of play> str/8, doubles , triads... I play always for straights
4.Time frame (my goal would be to hit straight within 14 days...even with reduction I would have hit 2 straights)
Total overall hits:
105 (oct 14th)
091 (oct 18th) - 90 was top front pair
998 (oct 19th) - 99 was my top doubles front pair
522(not front pair oct 20)
290 (straight from created sets oct 26th) -
since my timeframe is a straight within 2 weeks given the amount of sets I can play, lets go backwards and see if I could get a similar result. If this doesn't work but I get similar hit potential maybe we can try implementing "pattern progression to see if I could've optimized this better.
Sept 25th – 234
55990011886677
55990066887711
66881177005599
77001199886655
Patterns: 590-059-867-687-170-701-681-186 - 509 ( oct1 )
Front pairs: 59-05-86-68-17-71-70-68-18-90-95 > 717-sep 28, 715 Oct2, 956 oct 3rd
Doubles: 55-99-66-00-11-88 > 551 sep30, oct 19 998
Sept 26th – 234, 996
5500118877
5500887711
8811770055
7700118855
Patterns: 187-817-508-805-507-705-085-518-017 (118-188) - 805 oct 5th, 850 oct 12th
Front pairs: 18-81-50-80-70-08-85-17-51-01 > 013 sept 29, 509 oct 1, 805 oct 5th, 850 oct 12th
Doubles: 55-00-88-11-77 – 551 sept 30th, 772 oct 10
Sept 27- 233, 996, 919
55008877
55008877
88770055
77008855
Patterns: 508-805-085-087-870-708-507-705-887-778 – 805 oct 5th, 850 oct 12th
Front pairs: 50-80-08-87-70-50-07-05-58 -88-77 > 509 oct1, 805 oct 5th, 772 oct 10th,
Doubles: 55-00-88-77 – 717 oct 28th, 551 sept 30, 772 oct 10, 755 oct 25th
Now something similar happened again.. my super hot front pairs were 50-70-80 and the top front doubles 55 all hit straight within relatively short time frame.
I am not sure if theres really something to use here but it seems like there could be?
seeing how Adobea you use the strings is completely different.
from what I understand you pick out a random pattern from strings and then utilize pattern progression correct? I am not sure I truly understand how you are optimizing this but I get the rough idea
I am looking to play pick 3-pick 4 straight play only -- few picks, just as you said too
Would you be able to do some more examples? I will try some more as well in which I reduce down to 3 digit in strings
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one thing I noticed from both my examples..
so I did Ontario from draws sept 25-27....my super hot front pairs were 80-50-70-55 > if you combine those pairs with most frequent digits touching them within the strings you very likely get atleast 2 straight hits in relatively low amount of sets...here are the hits..
Total overall hits:
717-sep 28
715 Oct- 5th
509 oct1
956 oct 3rd
013 sept 29
551 sept 30th
805 oct 5th
850 oct 12th
509 oct1
772 oct 10th
realistically 2 straight hits within 7 days
next is my first example I used draws Oct 9-11th my super hot front pairs were 90-38-98
Total overall hits:
105 (oct 14th)
091 (oct 18th),
998 (oct 19th)
522(not front pair oct 20)
290 (straight oct 26th),
921 (oct 31)
903 (nov 3)
224 (Nov 2)
880 (Nov 5)
again 2 straight hits within like a week
These were in 2 week intervals from eachother...
Now that might just be super lucky, but im going to go back another 2 weeks and see if I get more straight hits..
Like I said its not just the front pairs are hitting straight quickly (which is also kind of amazing) its that they are hitting and the 3rd digit is within the strings if you pay attention to the patterns..
like I said this is only so far and it would still be I think roughly 20-30 sets but the straight so far is hitting within a week. I doubt it will continue to be so accurate
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Quote: Originally posted by carter7 on Nov 12, 2023
one thing I noticed from both my examples..
so I did Ontario from draws sept 25-27....my super hot front pairs were 80-50-70-55 > if you combine those pairs with most frequent digits touching them within the strings you very likely get atleast 2 straight hits in relatively low amount of sets...here are the hits..
Total overall hits:
717-sep 28
715 Oct- 5th
509 oct1
956 oct 3rd
013 sept 29
551 sept 30th
805 oct 5th
850 oct 12th
509 oct1
772 oct 10th
realistically 2 straight hits within 7 days
next is my first example I used draws Oct 9-11th my super hot front pairs were 90-38-98
Total overall hits:
105 (oct 14th)
091 (oct 18th),
998 (oct 19th)
522(not front pair oct 20)
290 (straight oct 26th),
921 (oct 31)
903 (nov 3)
224 (Nov 2)
880 (Nov 5)
again 2 straight hits within like a week
These were in 2 week intervals from eachother...
Now that might just be super lucky, but im going to go back another 2 weeks and see if I get more straight hits..
Like I said its not just the front pairs are hitting straight quickly (which is also kind of amazing) its that they are hitting and the 3rd digit is within the strings if you pay attention to the patterns..
like I said this is only so far and it would still be I think roughly 20-30 sets but the straight so far is hitting within a week. I doubt it will continue to be so accurate
'from what I understand you pick out a random pattern from strings and then utilize pattern progression correct?'
You are getting the fundamentals, you build from there , R2 thru R8 have similar digits, but digit progression differ. I can just filter a draw and look for patterns but that will not help, I need few picks to play str8.
Just for information, R2 denotes randomized 2000 times for a parameter , interval points of such parameter is then use to create a string. So you may have similar digits at end of filtering, the pattern progression may differ. This helps in identifying your front pairs and doubles easily.
NB: The string is very flexible to use once the fundamentals is understood, my instructions are not edge in stone.
Good Luck
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Quote: Originally posted by adobea78 on Nov 12, 2023
'from what I understand you pick out a random pattern from strings and then utilize pattern progression correct?'
You are getting the fundamentals, you build from there , R2 thru R8 have similar digits, but digit progression differ. I can just filter a draw and look for patterns but that will not help, I need few picks to play str8.
Just for information, R2 denotes randomized 2000 times for a parameter , interval points of such parameter is then use to create a string. So you may have similar digits at end of filtering, the pattern progression may differ. This helps in identifying your front pairs and doubles easily.
NB: The string is very flexible to use once the fundamentals is understood, my instructions are not edge in stone.
Good Luck
ok perfect I appreciate the feedback I am going to keep trying examples to see if I can optimize what you are sharing further.
I really want to learn the optimal way to "few picks to play straight"
I think pattern progression is where I need work?
I will keep trying and post some more attempts, thank you!
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Quote: Originally posted by carter7 on Nov 12, 2023
one thing I noticed from both my examples..
so I did Ontario from draws sept 25-27....my super hot front pairs were 80-50-70-55 > if you combine those pairs with most frequent digits touching them within the strings you very likely get atleast 2 straight hits in relatively low amount of sets...here are the hits..
Total overall hits:
717-sep 28
715 Oct- 5th
509 oct1
956 oct 3rd
013 sept 29
551 sept 30th
805 oct 5th
850 oct 12th
509 oct1
772 oct 10th
realistically 2 straight hits within 7 days
next is my first example I used draws Oct 9-11th my super hot front pairs were 90-38-98
Total overall hits:
105 (oct 14th)
091 (oct 18th),
998 (oct 19th)
522(not front pair oct 20)
290 (straight oct 26th),
921 (oct 31)
903 (nov 3)
224 (Nov 2)
880 (Nov 5)
again 2 straight hits within like a week
These were in 2 week intervals from eachother...
Now that might just be super lucky, but im going to go back another 2 weeks and see if I get more straight hits..
Like I said its not just the front pairs are hitting straight quickly (which is also kind of amazing) its that they are hitting and the 3rd digit is within the strings if you pay attention to the patterns..
like I said this is only so far and it would still be I think roughly 20-30 sets but the straight so far is hitting within a week. I doubt it will continue to be so accurate
ok so I went back another 2 weeks following this method and didn't get the same results of straight hits finally, I am going to try and test more in a different way
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Quote: Originally posted by adobea78 on Nov 9, 2023
HI Cater, your response is right.
1. Pattern recognition
2.Selecting digits
3. type of play> str/8, doubles , triads...
4.Time frame
I am going to do a workout with these four points, anyway triads is a set with 3 elements, quad is 4, quint is 5 and pair is 2. I use this to reduce my picks.
Lets say I have a pattern 112233> a complete combo should be 6 selecting 3> 20 picks> reduced to
just 7 triads> 112 113 122 123 133 223 233
How many pairs can be formed from 112233> 11-12-13-22-23-33(it should 15 but get 6 due to repeats)
So if my focus is on doubles 11, my picks is just 112,113> you play hard for limited time frame.
Workout for ONTARIO( keep play type, never combine)
Drawing Date Pick 3 Pick 4 Midday Evening Midday Evening Wed, Nov 8, 2023 5-3-7 7-4-7 3-3-2-2 5-0-7-1 Tue, Nov 7, 2023 3-2-1 3-3-3 7-6-9-2 3-0-9-5 Mon, Nov 6, 2023 2-2-6 4-1-7 4-4-7-8 5-2-7-8 Sun, Nov 5, 2023 8-6-7 8-8-0 1-5-1-9 7-7-5-0 Sat, Nov 4, 2023 6-9-7 9-6-8 8-3-9-5 7-7-9-9 Fri, Nov 3, 2023 9-7-2 9-0-3 9-1-9-6 0-6-7-5 Thu, Nov 2, 2023 9-0-7 2-2-4 6-4-9-9 4-9-1-4 Wed, Nov 1, 2023 8-7-1 6-4-0 0-8-0-7 4-7-3-4 Tue, Oct 31, 2023 0-6-7 9-2-1 0-9-6-8 0-8-7-6 Mon, Oct 30, 2023 9-4-1 0-7-5 6-6-2-6 2-0-2-6 Sun, Oct 29, 2023 1-5-6 9-4-5 5-4-1-9 3-3-1-0 Sat, Oct 28, 2023 5-4-4 5-5-9 4-1-6-6 5-5-6-9 Fri, Oct 27, 2023 5-1-6 6-3-0 5-4-4-6 9-7-5-5 Thu, Oct 26, 2023 0-3-4 2-9-0 4-8-9-8 0-6-3-3 Wed, Oct 25, 2023 6-1-8 7-5-5 4-6-9-0 2-6-5-5 Tue, Oct 24, 2023 2-2-1 0-6-5 5-9-9-7 3-2-6-7 Mon, Oct 23, 2023 7-8-2 6-1-2 2-2-2-5 6-1-4-9 Sun, Oct 22, 2023 0-8-5 6-1-5 1-3-5-2 0-3-5-6 Sat, Oct 21, 2023 9-3-8 4-0-8 0-9-3-6 8-6-2-9 Fri, Oct 20, 2023 2-5-0 5-2-2 4-4-3-7 6-6-7-8 Thu, Oct 19, 2023 8-5-6 9-9-8 0-8-3-9 8-3-8-4 Wed, Oct 18, 2023 5-5-6 0-9-1 6-0-1-1 9-2-0-9 Tue, Oct 17, 2023 7-1-2 4-2-7 5-2-0-5 2-8-7-1 Mon, Oct 16, 2023 8-5-4 1-5-6 4-2-4-6 4-0-1-3 Sun, Oct 15, 2023 7-2-1 7-6-1 5-8-0-0 8-9-6-8 Sat, Oct 14, 2023 6-6-8 1-0-5 6-7-2-9 5-8-7-1 Fri, Oct 13, 2023 6-7-4 4-4-1 5-0-8-7 2-9-0-8 Thu, Oct 12, 2023 0-7-0 8-5-0 2-8-2-1 7-5-2-2 Wed, Oct 11, 2023 6-1-1 3-4-2 4-4-6-8 9-0-8-2 Tue, Oct 10, 2023 2-1-5 7-7-2 7-1-5-9 1-4-6-0 Mon, Oct 9, 2023 5-9-2 6-4-5 0-3-8-7 1-0-1-0 Sun, Oct 8, 2023 5-3-7 1-2-2 6-8-6-5 9-7-1-4 Sat, Oct 7, 2023 9-3-3 7-5-3 5-9-7-1 2-2-5-8 Fri, Oct 6, 2023 4-9-6 0-9-3 4-3-8-8 8-3-5-1 Thu, Oct 5, 2023 6-8-2 8-0-5 7-5-2-1 3-2-1-4 Wed, Oct 4, 2023 6-6-0 3-7-5 4-2-9-6 9-2-0-6 Tue, Oct 3, 2023 9-4-7 9-5-6 5-0-1-4 0-9-1-0 Mon, Oct 2, 2023 0-5-5 7-1-5 7-8-7-7 0-2-4-4 Sun, Oct 1, 2023 7-0-8 5-0-9 2-9-9-2 8-6-4-2 Lets start with day draws> best with four last draws 708-055-947-660I am going to do a detailed filtering by deleting digit by digit(You do not want to miss repeats)stringsR2-55992244001133886677
R4-22559900668833447711
R6-66881177005599332244
R8-77001199883366224455Starting from digits 708,055..... lets (1) seek patternsR2-21133
R4-23311
R6-11332
R8-11332Now watch the progression of pattern 213> 211(none),1133-3311-1133-1133, 233-332-332
So your triad in play is a variation of 213,
Front pairs 13-13-13--32-32> Most frequency
Front doubles 11-11-11-33-33> hit 321( Be mindful you are waging few picks)
Lets filter the next draw digits 055.....
R2-2118
R4-2811
R6-8112
R8-1182Pattern progression>211-112-118-811-118-281-182
Front piair 21-12-11-11-11-11-18-18-18-81-81-28-82
Triads> 118-118
next filter from 947
R2-0118
R4-0811
R6-8110
R8-0118Pick 018 variation
Pattern prog>011-110-011-118-811-811-118-
front> 81-81-01-01-18-18
Doubles> 11-11-11
Try to complete last workout start from draw 660...
Will try P4 day with a summary filter(delete in groups)
Day draws 2992...7877
R2-44113366
R4-66334411
R6-66113344
R8-11336644Variation of 6341>4*4*4*4*4 picks>4096>no repeats>1680>no order or repeats> 70
No order/repeats of 70 is reduced to 19 because of repeats
1144 1344 1446 3344 3446 4466 1134 1146 1334 1346 1466 3346 3466 1133 1136 1166 1336 1366 3366
Now from pattern progression>413-341-134--136-136-613-634-364-
From the 19 picks , use a triad to filter few picks
134>1346-1344
136>1366
You may have the right pattern, understanding how combination works helps to filter whether to play doubles or singles with few picks. There a countless wheels out there.
All workout picks are pending hits.
Good Luck
Ok I will now reduce “by digit” down to 3 digits as you suggested using the Ontario example you started, took a fair amount of time to create these strings…
- I am trying to look at this and figure out how to optimize, do I just pick out a couple patterns from the start?
- I believe there might be something to watching a particular pattern evolve down the strings along the week?
- I am going to take my best attempt at what I maybe should be doing and would appreciate any feedback. Thank you.
Reduced with draw 708
55992244011338667
22559906683344711
66811705599332244
70119983366224455
Looking initially pattern I see is a variation of 592 and 216
You decided to take 213 in your example, I am not quite sure why you started with 2113 but I will follow same numerology
R2-21133
R4-23311
R6-11332
R8-11332You said “Now watch the progression of pattern 213> 211(none),1133-3311-1133-1133, 233-332-332 therefore its 213”
59922
22599
59922
99225
This is what I see in Pattern progression for mine > 592> 9922-9922-9922 > 599-599-599> 225-225 = does this mean 592 or 992? I believe 592
21166
26611
66112
11662
Pattern progression 216 > 1166-6611-6611-1166> 211-112> 266, 662 = does this mean take 216?
I think im seeing the pattern progression now just not sure exactly how to use it, I am thinking that I take the most prevalent pattern progression? as highlighted in my example
Next draw 055
99224411338667
22996683344711
66811799332244
71199833662244
Your example:
R2-2118
R4-2811
R6-8112
R8-1182Pattern progression>211-112-118-811-118-281-182 and your combo was 118, which I think is because it was most prevalent even though coming from 218?
Let me try another one 941
9441
9441
1944
1944
941 > 441-441, 944-944-944-944 = so im thinking this would change to taking 944 via pattern progression?
I’ll also try 236
2336
2633
6332
3362
236 > 336,633,633,336 – 233,332 = is this mean 236 or 336? Maybe both?
Next draw 947
92241133866
22966833411
66811933224
11983366224
I see patterns 932, 186, 216
92233
22933
93322
93322
923> 2233,3322,3322 – 922,229 – 933,933,933 – this one I am abut confused? Think it could be 932 or perhaps more likely actually 332 because there is only a single 9 and 33 keeps coming up in pattern progression
Draw 660
922411338
229833411
811933224
119833224
Draw 682
9241133
2933411
1193324
1193324
Draw 496
21133
23311
11332
11332
I decided to take a pause/break there for second (I will continue example)..
I am wondering if you can provide some feedback into my pattern progression, am I on the right track?
I also wanted to pause here to see if theres something I should be progressively targeting/seeing through the 6 days of draws progressively within the strings
Is there something I should be looking to catch in addition to just “generating patterns” and attempting “pattern progression ?”
My goal is limited sets for straight hits
Even minor insights into some of what I'm trying/ anything would be appreciated, thank you!
I will continue the example
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Quote: Originally posted by carter7 on Nov 13, 2023
Ok I will now reduce “by digit” down to 3 digits as you suggested using the Ontario example you started, took a fair amount of time to create these strings…
- I am trying to look at this and figure out how to optimize, do I just pick out a couple patterns from the start?
- I believe there might be something to watching a particular pattern evolve down the strings along the week?
- I am going to take my best attempt at what I maybe should be doing and would appreciate any feedback. Thank you.
Reduced with draw 708
55992244011338667
22559906683344711
66811705599332244
70119983366224455
Looking initially pattern I see is a variation of 592 and 216
You decided to take 213 in your example, I am not quite sure why you started with 2113 but I will follow same numerology
R2-21133
R4-23311
R6-11332
R8-11332You said “Now watch the progression of pattern 213> 211(none),1133-3311-1133-1133, 233-332-332 therefore its 213”
59922
22599
59922
99225
This is what I see in Pattern progression for mine > 592> 9922-9922-9922 > 599-599-599> 225-225 = does this mean 592 or 992? I believe 592
21166
26611
66112
11662
Pattern progression 216 > 1166-6611-6611-1166> 211-112> 266, 662 = does this mean take 216?
I think im seeing the pattern progression now just not sure exactly how to use it, I am thinking that I take the most prevalent pattern progression? as highlighted in my example
Next draw 055
99224411338667
22996683344711
66811799332244
71199833662244
Your example:
R2-2118
R4-2811
R6-8112
R8-1182Pattern progression>211-112-118-811-118-281-182 and your combo was 118, which I think is because it was most prevalent even though coming from 218?
Let me try another one 941
9441
9441
1944
1944
941 > 441-441, 944-944-944-944 = so im thinking this would change to taking 944 via pattern progression?
I’ll also try 236
2336
2633
6332
3362
236 > 336,633,633,336 – 233,332 = is this mean 236 or 336? Maybe both?
Next draw 947
92241133866
22966833411
66811933224
11983366224
I see patterns 932, 186, 216
92233
22933
93322
93322
923> 2233,3322,3322 – 922,229 – 933,933,933 – this one I am abut confused? Think it could be 932 or perhaps more likely actually 332 because there is only a single 9 and 33 keeps coming up in pattern progression
Draw 660
922411338
229833411
811933224
119833224
Draw 682
9241133
2933411
1193324
1193324
Draw 496
21133
23311
11332
11332
I decided to take a pause/break there for second (I will continue example)..
I am wondering if you can provide some feedback into my pattern progression, am I on the right track?
I also wanted to pause here to see if theres something I should be progressively targeting/seeing through the 6 days of draws progressively within the strings
Is there something I should be looking to catch in addition to just “generating patterns” and attempting “pattern progression ?”
My goal is limited sets for straight hits
Even minor insights into some of what I'm trying/ anything would be appreciated, thank you!
I will continue the example
Ok so I finished the full example, reducing the strings digit by digit along about a weeks worth of draws until I got to a 3 digit string..
and here is what I did:
- I picked out patterns I was seeing through the strings draw to draw throughout the week.
- I tried to perform pattern progression on the patterns I picked out.
- The sets in brackets are the sets I “picked” out of the pattern progressions
Any feedback on what you see me doing?
Am I picking out the correct set / triad from the pattern progression?
Any other feedback would be appreciated, I completed the full example
Reduced with draw 708
55992244011338667
22559906683344711
66811705599332244
70119983366224455
Patterns: 592 (592,992) , 216 (216) , (yours 213)
59922
22599
59922
99225
592> 9922-9922-9922 > 599-599-599> 225-225 = does this mean 592 or 992? I believe 592
21166
26611
66112
11662
Pattern progression 216 > 1166-6611-6611-1166> 211-112> 266, 662 = does this mean take 216?
Next draw 055
99224411338667
22996683344711
66811799332244
71199833662244
Patterns: 941(944) ,236 (336, 236) , (yours 118)
Let me try another one 941
9441
9441
1944
1944
941 > 441-441, 944-944-944-944 = so im thinking this would change to taking 944 via pattern progression?
I’ll also try 236
2336
2633
6332
3362
236 > 336,633,633,336 – 233,332 = is this mean 236 or 336? Maybe both?
Next draw 947
92241133866
22966833411
66811933224
11983366224
I see patterns 932 (332,932) , 186 (118, 866) , 216 (261)
92233
22933
93322
93322
923> 2233,3322,3322 – 922,229 – 933,933,933 – this one I am abut confused? Think it could be 932 or perhaps more likely actually 332 because there is only a single 9 and 33 keeps coming up in pattern progression
11866
66811
66811
11866
186> 118-811-811-118, 866-668-668-866– again not sure how to extract from pattern progression? I believe I see take both 118 and 866?
221166
226611
661122
116622
216> 2266-6622, 6611-6611-1166 – here is another example, do I take 261 because its more prominent? Or 216 because the pattern progression ends in 16 via R8? Im going to say 261 for now
Draw 660
922411338
229833411
811933224
119833224
Patterns: 913 (119,993) , 213 (113,332, 132), 243 (332/324) , 213 (213)
91133
93311
11933
11933
913= 911-119-119, 933-933-933= 119/993/193
22113
22311
11322
11322
213= 233-322-322, 113-311-113-113, 231-132-132= 113/322/132
2433
2334
3324
3324
243= 233-332-332, 243-324-324 = 332/324
21133
23311
11332
11332
213= 1133-3311-1133-1133, 233-332-332 = 213
Draw 682
9241133
2933411
1193324
1193324
Patterns: 193 (119-933) , 293 (332-993), 941 (194/119) ,134 (113 / 134)
Draw
91133
93311
11933
11933
193= 1133-3311, 911-119-119, 933-933-933 = 119, 933
9233
2933
9332
9332
293= 233-332-332, 933-933 = 332, 993
9411
9411
1194
1194
941= 411-411, 941-941-194-194, 119-119 = 194 /119
4113
3411
1134
1134
134 = 113-113-113, 341-134-134 = 113 / 134
Draw 496
21133
23311
11332
11332
Patterns: 213,231,132 (133,113,332,213)
21133
23311
11332
11332
213= 1133-3311-1133-1133> 233-332-332 = 133,113,332,213
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Quote: Originally posted by carter7 on Nov 7, 2023
ok let me try an example..
From: SUN 10/08/23 ~ Thru: TUE 11/07/23 MON 11/06/23 4-1-7 SUN 11/05/23 8-8-0 SAT 11/04/23 9-6-8 FRI 11/03/23 9-0-3 THU 11/02/23 2-2-4 WED 11/01/23 6-4-0 TUE 10/31/23 9-2-1 MON 10/30/23 0-7-5 SUN 10/29/23 9-4-5 SAT 10/28/23 5-5-9 FRI 10/27/23 6-3-0 THU 10/26/23 2-9-0 WED 10/25/23 7-5-5 TUE 10/24/23 0-6-5 MON 10/23/23 6-1-2 SUN 10/22/23 6-1-5 SAT 10/21/23 4-0-8 FRI 10/20/23 5-2-2 THU 10/19/23 9-9-8 WED 10/18/23 0-9-1 TUE 10/17/23 4-2-7 MON 10/16/23 1-5-6 SUN 10/15/23 7-6-1 SAT 10/14/23 1-0-5 FRI 10/13/23 4-4-1 THU 10/12/23 8-5-0 WED 10/11/23 3-4-2 TUE 10/10/23 7-7-2 MON 10/09/23 6-4-5 SUN 10/08/23 1-2-2
apply 645 to the 4 strings...
99220011338877
22990088337711
88117700993322
77001199883322 I believe I see patterns..
920-290-387-873-701-170
front pairs = 92, 29,09,90,38,87,17,70,71 > hits 091, 290, 921
lets reduce further next draw 772
9900113388
9900883311
8811009933
0011998833
901-109- 831-138-983-893-938
front pairs- 90-09-83-13-98-89-93-38 - hits 091, 903
you can see from both strings the prominent pattern was 09,90 and they both hit front pairs, I guess this may be what you mean by finding/following pattern?
Also I was wondering for this system and alot of your others that include the strings, could you explain further/provide examples of how you breakdown your patterns into playable sets?
It seems what comes out of the strings most often in your examples is the front pairs but less examples on how to best reduce down to 5-10 picks for ideal straight play?
there is a lot of mention of "waging strategy"and "time frame" but it is difficult to utilize those tools without more clearly understanding how to reduce/form consistent playable sets (5-10 sets) from patterns or front pairs in strings.
Would you kindly be able to show more detailed examples of this by chance? I feel it could be applied to so many of your systems and really help understand how to pair these patterns/ front pairs optimally with "waging strategy + time frame"..
I still usually come out with way too many sets using the strings, yet you seem to consistently be able to reduce to 10 sets in a consistent method..
perhaps this involves some form of wheeling, traids? etc. that some of us may not fully understand hindering us from taking advantage of the patterns/ front pairs worked through the strings. Even just some baseline insights for reduction of patterns/front pairs into the final playable sets would be so greatly appreciated.
Thank you so very much any input is appreciated
Reducing R2 to R8 digit by digit starting from draw 1,2,2 onwards
After filtering from draws 122 to 761, I have 3 sets of digits 99,3,8. Lets look at pattern projection
R2-9938
R4-9983
R6-8993
R8-9983Triads 938-983-893-983-998-899-998> hit 998
Pairs projection> 99-99-99-93-93-38-83-83>
Lets take a look at pattern progression for set 998
From R4 to R8 the set 998 in it's variation is intact, there is a break when you look at R2>99x8, the same applies to pairs. Always look for the most frequent sets before your pick selection.
Deciding to reduce Rs in sets instead of digit by digit.
Starting from 1,2,2(all 1s and 2s deleted),then 6,4,5 onwards
Few draws from 122 to 3 42 was deleted(some data will be lost)
R2-990088
R4-990088
R6-880099
R8-009988From the set 908, lets do some pattern progression
Triads 908-908-809-098>
990-990-099-099-008-008-800(R8 breaks progression 00xx88) 088-088-880
Pair projection 99-99-99-99-00-00-00-00-88-88-88-88
90-90-09-09-08-08-80(can't consider 08 of R8, why? 00xx88
I have one pair 98 (R8) , projections breaks if you at R2 to R6.
I am doing this in simple way for you to avoid 'Whatabout this',scenario.
Lets look if we got some hits>091-998- 903-880
Like I said, filtering in sets or digits has it pro and cons, the most important thing is pattern progression to select your picks.
Take your time , don't over think is that simple
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Quote: Originally posted by adobea78 on Nov 13, 2023
Reducing R2 to R8 digit by digit starting from draw 1,2,2 onwards
After filtering from draws 122 to 761, I have 3 sets of digits 99,3,8. Lets look at pattern projection
R2-9938
R4-9983
R6-8993
R8-9983Triads 938-983-893-983-998-899-998> hit 998
Pairs projection> 99-99-99-93-93-38-83-83>
Lets take a look at pattern progression for set 998
From R4 to R8 the set 998 in it's variation is intact, there is a break when you look at R2>99x8, the same applies to pairs. Always look for the most frequent sets before your pick selection.
Deciding to reduce Rs in sets instead of digit by digit.
Starting from 1,2,2(all 1s and 2s deleted),then 6,4,5 onwards
Few draws from 122 to 3 42 was deleted(some data will be lost)
R2-990088
R4-990088
R6-880099
R8-009988From the set 908, lets do some pattern progression
Triads 908-908-809-098>
990-990-099-099-008-008-800(R8 breaks progression 00xx88) 088-088-880
Pair projection 99-99-99-99-00-00-00-00-88-88-88-88
90-90-09-09-08-08-80(can't consider 08 of R8, why? 00xx88
I have one pair 98 (R8) , projections breaks if you at R2 to R6.
I am doing this in simple way for you to avoid 'Whatabout this',scenario.
Lets look if we got some hits>091-998- 903-880
Like I said, filtering in sets or digits has it pro and cons, the most important thing is pattern progression to select your picks.
Take your time , don't over think is that simple
thank you I pretty much understand exactly what you're saying but I have a good very relevant question to what you instructed..
you said..
ex.
Always look for the most frequent sets before your pick selection.
Ex.
R2-9938 R2-9938
R4-9983 R4-9983
R6-8993 R6-8993
R8-9983 R8-9983Sets: Pattern projection - 998-899-998 , 938-983-983
What is determinant most frequent in the pattern progression? Is it most frequent within its own pattern projection? In which case 998 and 983 are both tied for most frequent above?
or is it Like for the pairs progression..where 99 is most frequent overall pair regardless of grouped progression therefore that is most frequent?
Pairs projection> 99-99-99-93-93-38-83-83
I think its clear what I’m asking..
Is it most frequent within its own same digits pattern projection? 998 , 983, 99 and 83 would all be most frequent
Or is it most frequent overall regardless of which pattern group? 99 would be most frequent in pairs, but 998 and 983 would be tied for most frequent in sets
you see how 998 and 983 would be tied for most frequent in the sets? what determines most frequent in that case? or are they both most frequent?
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Quote: Originally posted by carter7 on Nov 14, 2023
thank you I pretty much understand exactly what you're saying but I have a good very relevant question to what you instructed..
you said..
ex.
Always look for the most frequent sets before your pick selection.
Ex.
R2-9938 R2-9938
R4-9983 R4-9983
R6-8993 R6-8993
R8-9983 R8-9983Sets: Pattern projection - 998-899-998 , 938-983-983
What is determinant most frequent in the pattern progression? Is it most frequent within its own pattern projection? In which case 998 and 983 are both tied for most frequent above?
or is it Like for the pairs progression..where 99 is most frequent overall pair regardless of grouped progression therefore that is most frequent?
Pairs projection> 99-99-99-93-93-38-83-83
I think its clear what I’m asking..
Is it most frequent within its own same digits pattern projection? 998 , 983, 99 and 83 would all be most frequent
Or is it most frequent overall regardless of which pattern group? 99 would be most frequent in pairs, but 998 and 983 would be tied for most frequent in sets
you see how 998 and 983 would be tied for most frequent in the sets? what determines most frequent in that case? or are they both most frequent?
DISREGARD MY PREVIOUS POST
I was looking at pattern progression in slightly different way but I completely understand now however…
as you said..
Always look for the most frequent sets before your pick selection
Digit Version
R2-9938
R4-9983
R6-8993
R8-9983938-983-893-983 = 983 would be most frequent
998-899-998 = 998 is most frequent
Pairs projection> 99-99-99-93-93-38-83-83 = 99 is most frequent
Sets Version
R2-990088
R4-990088
R6-880099
R8-009988908-908-809-098: 908 most frequent
990-990-099-099: tie in most frequent? Take both? 990-099
008-008-800: 008 is most frequent
088-088-880: 088 is most frequent actual would have missed the straight by selecting most frequent
Pair projection: 99-99-99-99-00-00-00-00-88-88-88-88-90-90-09-09-08-08-80 : Most frequent pairs would be tied 99,00,88
So overall with most frequent we would get these playing sets:
Digit Version: 983, 998 and pair 99
Set Version: 908-990-099-008-088 (MISS STRAIGHT SELECTING MOST FREQUENT 880) and pair 99, 00, 88
You said hits… 091-998-903-880 but most were filtered out!
Total hits: 998 exact hit, 880 (88 front pair in most frequent sets but that’s 10 combo’s)
You technically missed 880 by using “most frequent” 088 combo
091 and 903 you technically filtered out by following “most frequent”
So technically filtering for most frequent caused to miss 3 of 4 straights? It was actually a disadvantage?
How might one avoid this? Most frequent was a disadvantage!
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Quote: Originally posted by carter7 on Nov 14, 2023
DISREGARD MY PREVIOUS POST
I was looking at pattern progression in slightly different way but I completely understand now however…
as you said..
Always look for the most frequent sets before your pick selection
Digit Version
R2-9938
R4-9983
R6-8993
R8-9983938-983-893-983 = 983 would be most frequent
998-899-998 = 998 is most frequent
Pairs projection> 99-99-99-93-93-38-83-83 = 99 is most frequent
Sets Version
R2-990088
R4-990088
R6-880099
R8-009988908-908-809-098: 908 most frequent
990-990-099-099: tie in most frequent? Take both? 990-099
008-008-800: 008 is most frequent
088-088-880: 088 is most frequent actual would have missed the straight by selecting most frequent
Pair projection: 99-99-99-99-00-00-00-00-88-88-88-88-90-90-09-09-08-08-80 : Most frequent pairs would be tied 99,00,88
So overall with most frequent we would get these playing sets:
Digit Version: 983, 998 and pair 99
Set Version: 908-990-099-008-088 (MISS STRAIGHT SELECTING MOST FREQUENT 880) and pair 99, 00, 88
You said hits… 091-998-903-880 but most were filtered out!
Total hits: 998 exact hit, 880 (88 front pair in most frequent sets but that’s 10 combo’s)
You technically missed 880 by using “most frequent” 088 combo
091 and 903 you technically filtered out by following “most frequent”
So technically filtering for most frequent caused to miss 3 of 4 straights? It was actually a disadvantage?
How might one avoid this? Most frequent was a disadvantage!
lets review this as I said..
with optimizing for pattern progression and taking “most frequent sets” for both digit+sets versions you would've had..
playable:
983, 998, 908, 990,099, 008, 088 and front pair 88, 99, 00 (I believe they're front pairs?) = 7 sets + up to 30 sets (88,99,00 front pair) = 37 sets
begin playing October 16th
Hits:
998 straight Oct 19th, 880 boxed Nov 5th
If you disregard "most frequent sets" which I guess is the whole point of the pattern progression, and had just played all the triad combinations you found/ generated/posted from the final strings it would've only been 11 sets...
938 983 893 998 899 990 099 008 800 088 880
Hits: 998 straight oct 19th , 880 straight Nov 5th - would've had a better result!
NOW
Lets go back to the first list optimized with “most frequent” from pattern progression, lets say we were to add in front pairs 09-90 from “sets version” pairs because COMBINED (09 + 90) they would’ve tied with most frequent pairs with 88,99,00
From your post…
Pair projection 99-99-99-99-00-00-00-00-88-88-88-88
90-90-09-09-08-08-80
Then we would have in the optimized “most frequent pattern progression playable sets:
983, 998, 908, 990,099, 008, 088 and front pair 88, 99, 00 and 09 , 90 (50 sets of front pairs)
All of a sudden you would’ve caught those straight hits…
Hits: 091 straight oct 18th, 998 straight Oct 19th, 903 Nov 3rd
My question then would be…
In that scenario in which you have so many front pairs in your “most frequent pattern progression” what would be the most optimized way to reduce and hit the straights?
That would technically be 50 total sets of front pairs to filter?
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Quote: Originally posted by carter7 on Nov 13, 2023
Ok so I finished the full example, reducing the strings digit by digit along about a weeks worth of draws until I got to a 3 digit string..
and here is what I did:
- I picked out patterns I was seeing through the strings draw to draw throughout the week.
- I tried to perform pattern progression on the patterns I picked out.
- The sets in brackets are the sets I “picked” out of the pattern progressions
Any feedback on what you see me doing?
Am I picking out the correct set / triad from the pattern progression?
Any other feedback would be appreciated, I completed the full example
Reduced with draw 708
55992244011338667
22559906683344711
66811705599332244
70119983366224455
Patterns: 592 (592,992) , 216 (216) , (yours 213)
59922
22599
59922
99225
592> 9922-9922-9922 > 599-599-599> 225-225 = does this mean 592 or 992? I believe 592
21166
26611
66112
11662
Pattern progression 216 > 1166-6611-6611-1166> 211-112> 266, 662 = does this mean take 216?
Next draw 055
99224411338667
22996683344711
66811799332244
71199833662244
Patterns: 941(944) ,236 (336, 236) , (yours 118)
Let me try another one 941
9441
9441
1944
1944
941 > 441-441, 944-944-944-944 = so im thinking this would change to taking 944 via pattern progression?
I’ll also try 236
2336
2633
6332
3362
236 > 336,633,633,336 – 233,332 = is this mean 236 or 336? Maybe both?
Next draw 947
92241133866
22966833411
66811933224
11983366224
I see patterns 932 (332,932) , 186 (118, 866) , 216 (261)
92233
22933
93322
93322
923> 2233,3322,3322 – 922,229 – 933,933,933 – this one I am abut confused? Think it could be 932 or perhaps more likely actually 332 because there is only a single 9 and 33 keeps coming up in pattern progression
11866
66811
66811
11866
186> 118-811-811-118, 866-668-668-866– again not sure how to extract from pattern progression? I believe I see take both 118 and 866?
221166
226611
661122
116622
216> 2266-6622, 6611-6611-1166 – here is another example, do I take 261 because its more prominent? Or 216 because the pattern progression ends in 16 via R8? Im going to say 261 for now
Draw 660
922411338
229833411
811933224
119833224
Patterns: 913 (119,993) , 213 (113,332, 132), 243 (332/324) , 213 (213)
91133
93311
11933
11933
913= 911-119-119, 933-933-933= 119/993/193
22113
22311
11322
11322
213= 233-322-322, 113-311-113-113, 231-132-132= 113/322/132
2433
2334
3324
3324
243= 233-332-332, 243-324-324 = 332/324
21133
23311
11332
11332
213= 1133-3311-1133-1133, 233-332-332 = 213
Draw 682
9241133
2933411
1193324
1193324
Patterns: 193 (119-933) , 293 (332-993), 941 (194/119) ,134 (113 / 134)
Draw
91133
93311
11933
11933
193= 1133-3311, 911-119-119, 933-933-933 = 119, 933
9233
2933
9332
9332
293= 233-332-332, 933-933 = 332, 993
9411
9411
1194
1194
941= 411-411, 941-941-194-194, 119-119 = 194 /119
4113
3411
1134
1134
134 = 113-113-113, 341-134-134 = 113 / 134
Draw 496
21133
23311
11332
11332
Patterns: 213,231,132 (133,113,332,213)
21133
23311
11332
11332
213= 1133-3311-1133-1133> 233-332-332 = 133,113,332,213
so this example I did..
if you took all the sets I created out of the patterns and removed duplicates it would be 27 combinations
first draw to play would be Oct 7th
heres the results..
Oct 7th - 933 STRAIGHT HIT
Oct 9th - 592 STRAIGHT HIT
Oct 30th- 941 STRAIGHT HIT
here's the list: 592 992 216 213 941 944 236 336 118 932 332 186 866 261 913 119 993 113 132 243 324 193 933 293 194 134 133
how might I work in "timeframe" for this? just keep testing to see if it could hit straight within affordability?
A trend Ive noticed doing this quite a few times now, the final draw and second final draw strings and sets generated (example draw 682 and 496) produce straights on low playable set numbers... in this example wouldve been only 14 sets and would've caught straights on Oct 7th and Oct 30th
there's a ton of straight hits within this data, again it seems to be about understanding waging and timeframe which I have NO FEEL FOR!
would it make sense to aim for a straight hit within 2 weeks? and then reset?
Seems I can hit a straight within 14 days and still keep it affordable, would you reset in this circumstance?
Really trying to understand how to optimize this and narrow into the waging strategy + timeframe, there is something here it seems....
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I told you not to over think! Do you have to play all these groups? have you consider 990088> as 990-998-900-988-0088-088 or filtering a pair from 6C3
You have potential few digits out of 10 , why create issue, waging is subjective, some play only doubles or from pairs, you have to make a selection and stick to it. You know the set 908 is 27 picks, front pairs leaves 3 picks and double front is even less
999 990 998 909 900 908 989 980 988 099 090 098 009 000 008 089 080 088 899 890 898 809 800 808 889 880 888
All you need is few picks , max 4 and wage hard for short time, you don't need have 5 straight .
I have really exhausted my explanations, you have a good tool, use it.