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• Tucker Black

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Justing618 on May 9, 2025

  Is it still not rigged should be the question you wanna ask.........Are ball draws rigged? Are scratch games rigged? How does it not affect ball draw games? Did you already forget about the pick 3 in pa? And how do you know scratchers aren't rigged? From what I gather they know what store the high dollar ones are at. When they send them out. And rng games are not used out of laziness. There used because of more profit. I said nothing of the sort about Oklahoma. Your grouping me. I actually said the opposite . If ya read in  the comments. People like me ask questions when they see inconsistent things go on. And patterns. Your the 98%. That walk with your head down not questioning anything. And keep shelling out money because you think since the government runs it. It's legit. I question everything the government does or has there hands in. People like me wonder why I have been playing for over 20 years and haven't won <snip>. Then I see this is so and so's third time winning.  Is it luck or staged . To make it look a certain way.

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  I know about the pick3 in Pennsylvania. I would be quite surprised if such a scheme were still ongoing. Nevertheless, as an anonymous player (i.e. not the cheater and not the state), it doesn't affect me. My chances of winning are exactly the same because I pick numbers at random. I could randomly pick the cheated numbers just as easily as I could randomly pick the non-cheated numbers.

  No, I don't know for certain that scratchers aren't rigged. But then, how do you know scratchers are rigged? I don't have to prove a negative. You do need to prove a positive, like when you say "From what I gather they know what store the high dollar ones are at. When they send them out." Care to share with us this evidence? Or is it just an assumption on your part? (rhetorical question, it's the latter)

  RNG games are used for more profit... do you mean more profit because of lower admin costs? That would be true. Or do you mean more profit because they cheat the game to make more people lose? If so, please provide evidence (rhetorical question, you don't have any evidence; it's just a belief).

   

  "People like me wonder why I have been playing for over 20 years and haven't won"

  And people like me wonder why you keep doing this, why you keep throwing away your money on a game you believe is rigged against you.
• Justing618

  

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  I know about the pick3 in Pennsylvania. I would be quite surprised if such a scheme were still ongoing. Nevertheless, as an anonymous player (i.e. not the cheater and not the state), it doesn't affect me. My chances of winning are exactly the same because I pick numbers at random. I could randomly pick the cheated numbers just as easily as I could randomly pick the non-cheated numbers.

  No, I don't know for certain that scratchers aren't rigged. But then, how do you know scratchers are rigged? I don't have to prove a negative. You do need to prove a positive, like when you say "From what I gather they know what store the high dollar ones are at. When they send them out." Care to share with us this evidence? Or is it just an assumption on your part? (rhetorical question, it's the latter)

  RNG games are used for more profit... do you mean more profit because of lower admin costs? That would be true. Or do you mean more profit because they cheat the game to make more people lose? If so, please provide evidence (rhetorical question, you don't have any evidence; it's just a belief).

   

  "People like me wonder why I have been playing for over 20 years and haven't won"

  And people like me wonder why you keep doing this, why you keep throwing away your money on a game you believe is rigged against you.

  How does them rigging a pick 3 game not affect you? The numbers you played could have come out instead of the loaded balls. And tons of other people who played that nights numbers could have come out. Was there ever an audit after this happened to see if pryor draws where rigged? How do you know scratchers aren't rigged? Do you honestly think there gonna send out. Let's say a 5 million dollar scratcher and not know where it went? Seems like a Lotta money to be floating around. That no one knows about. But I said from " what I gather" So I'll say an "assumption " to please you for a second. I dont need to prove a negative at all. Im not the government agency that owns  games that have been compromised. I think there the ones who need to explain. And yes rng games make more because there no longer televised. And lottery said there cheaper in maintenance.  But the part your not getting is black and white. Rng games have been rigged. And ball draw has been rigged. So you can argue all you want. A fact is a fact....... And like I said before . If Tippton didn't try to cash the ticket. It would still be going on. Simple solution to these problems would be live games. No editing. Each ball weighed before each draw. Televised. Why will they not do this? Other countries do...........And if scratchers are so random. Why does it take months for a grand prize to be sold?
• Justing618

  

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  And this is going to be my last post tonight. Because I have to work tomorrow. And go babysit grown men. Who work harder out of getting out of work. Then just doing there jobs. Why was I watching a youtube video on the live powerball drawing. Then when I looked in the comments. Someone was congratulating the announcer. When I googled her name. And looked up her social media. Her job is "actor"...... This is the definition of an actor. ....Acting is an activity in which a story is told by means of its enactment by  an actor who adopts a character—in theatre, television, film, radio, or any other medium that makes use of the mimetic mode. But anyways .... Im gonna pull what they did with that powerball draw. That wasn't televised till the next day. Goodluck! And goodnight.😜😂
• Tucker Black

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Justing618 on May 10, 2025

  How does them rigging a pick 3 game not affect you? The numbers you played could have come out instead of the loaded balls. And tons of other people who played that nights numbers could have come out. Was there ever an audit after this happened to see if pryor draws where rigged? How do you know scratchers aren't rigged? Do you honestly think there gonna send out. Let's say a 5 million dollar scratcher and not know where it went? Seems like a Lotta money to be floating around. That no one knows about. But I said from " what I gather" So I'll say an "assumption " to please you for a second. I dont need to prove a negative at all. Im not the government agency that owns  games that have been compromised. I think there the ones who need to explain. And yes rng games make more because there no longer televised. And lottery said there cheaper in maintenance.  But the part your not getting is black and white. Rng games have been rigged. And ball draw has been rigged. So you can argue all you want. A fact is a fact....... And like I said before . If Tippton didn't try to cash the ticket. It would still be going on. Simple solution to these problems would be live games. No editing. Each ball weighed before each draw. Televised. Why will they not do this? Other countries do...........And if scratchers are so random. Why does it take months for a grand prize to be sold?

  "How do you know scratchers aren't rigged? Do you honestly think there gonna send out. Let's say a 5 million dollar scratcher and not know where it went? Seems like a Lotta money to be floating around. That no one knows about. "

  When the lottery orders 3 million tickets from the manufacturer with three $1 million prizes, all they know is that three of those tickets are worth $1 million. They don't know which particular tickets they are. The manufacturer isn't going to tell them "psst, this box right here contains a million dollar ticket". They just print tickets, shuffle them, put them into boxes, and ship them to the lottery.

  The employees don't draw the tickets by hand one at a time and then apply the scratch coating and then put it into a box destined for one store. If that were the case, sure, an employee would know and could have a straw buyer go to that store and buy all the tickets they have and split the proceeds. That's not how scratch tickets are manufactured. They're printed by a computer and shuffled.

  ".And if scratchers are so random. Why does it take months for a grand prize to be sold? "

  Scratchers are random. It doesn't always takes months for a grand prize to be sold. In Colorado, the new Monopoly game is $1, $2, $3, $5, $10 and $20 and has been out for just over one month. The $1 game has awarded 1 of 4 grand prizes. The $2 and $10 games have already awarded 1 of 2 grand prizes; that's quite lucky of the players to claim half of the grand prizes this soon. The $50 "Best Chance to be a Millionaire" has been out for 2.5 months, with 5 grand prizes in the entire run, of which 4 have already been claimed.

   

  If you believe that RNG games are rigged, ball drawing games are still rigged 40 years later, and scratch-off games are rigged, there are no games left for you to play. Stop playing these rigged games.
• Justing618

  

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  When the lottery orders 3 million tickets from the manufacturer with three $1 million prizes, all they know is that three of those tickets are worth $1 million. They don't know which particular tickets they are. The manufacturer isn't going to tell them "psst, this box right here contains a million dollar ticket". They just print tickets, shuffle them, put them into boxes, and ship them to the lottery. How do you know this? And why is there never a grand prize when the game first starts? A month later is not first starts.  You seriously think they take piles of scratchers and play shuffaroo and throw them in a box? And I'll play and do whatever t.f. I wanna do.
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  "I dont need to prove a negative at all. "

  You don't need to prove anything at all, but making claims refusing to offer some reasonable support for them is just one more reason that we've got no reason to  believe  a lot of what you say.

  "From what I gather they know what store the high dollar ones are at. When they send them out."

  AFAIK you're actually correct about that, and many years ago in Indiana(?) one of the lottery's security people was able to find out what store had received a grand prize  scratcher, and had somebody buy every ticket the store had for that game. I don't remember what the flaw in their security protocol was, but I do know it wasn't that they simply kept a list that only certain people were supposed to see. I don't know what protocols any  particular lottery might use since then, but it's pretty easy to have records that will show where a given roll of ticket was sent while making it impossible to match that roll of tickets to  store without multiple people cooperating. It's not foolproof, but the chances of a successful conspiracy involving several  people is very low.

  "And why is there never a grand prize when the game first starts?"

  For the sake of argument let's pretend that  you're right that nobody has ever claimed a grand prize "when the game first starts". I'll start with what's probably a foolish question, but do you have any clue at all about how probability works? Question number two is where did you get your information  about when the people who claimed a grand prize after whatever period fits your idea of "when the game first starts" bought those winning ticket?
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  Quote: Originally posted by KY Floyd on May 11, 2025

  "I dont need to prove a negative at all. "

  You don't need to prove anything at all, but making claims refusing to offer some reasonable support for them is just one more reason that we've got no reason to  believe  a lot of what you say.

  "From what I gather they know what store the high dollar ones are at. When they send them out."

  AFAIK you're actually correct about that, and many years ago in Indiana(?) one of the lottery's security people was able to find out what store had received a grand prize  scratcher, and had somebody buy every ticket the store had for that game. I don't remember what the flaw in their security protocol was, but I do know it wasn't that they simply kept a list that only certain people were supposed to see. I don't know what protocols any  particular lottery might use since then, but it's pretty easy to have records that will show where a given roll of ticket was sent while making it impossible to match that roll of tickets to  store without multiple people cooperating. It's not foolproof, but the chances of a successful conspiracy involving several  people is very low.

  "And why is there never a grand prize when the game first starts?"

  For the sake of argument let's pretend that  you're right that nobody has ever claimed a grand prize "when the game first starts". I'll start with what's probably a foolish question, but do you have any clue at all about how probability works? Question number two is where did you get your information  about when the people who claimed a grand prize after whatever period fits your idea of "when the game first starts" bought those winning ticket?

  Here we go again?........."I dont need to prove a negative at all. "I don't " I wasn't caught rigging anything. It's like someone elese commits a crime. And you expecting me to explain it. 😂"From what I gather they know what store the high dollar ones are at. When they send them out." But in the same breath. People like you say it's "random". I'll start with what's probably a foolish question, but do you have any clue at all about how probability works. No question is a "foolish" question.  Question number two is where did you get your information  about when the people who claimed a grand prize after whatever period fits your idea of "when the game first starts" My state post winners every week. Never in my life seen a scratch games released. And someone won instantly. The average is about 3 months after the game starts. I mean if a game has 2-3 grand prizes. It would kinda be common sence to draw the game out a wile. I mean if you where trying to get maximum profit out of something. Wouldn't you wanna stretch it out as long as possible. I mean I constantly see the same patterns with certain things." but do you have any clue at all about how probability works?" No but apparently you do. Tell me of all the wins you acquired through this method?
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  Here we go again?........."I dont need to prove a negative at all. "I don't " I wasn't caught rigging anything. It's like someone elese commits a crime. And you expecting me to explain it. 😂"From what I gather they know what store the high dollar ones are at. When they send them out." But in the same breath. People like you say it's "random". I'll start with what's probably a foolish question, but do you have any clue at all about how probability works. No question is a "foolish" question.  Question number two is where did you get your information  about when the people who claimed a grand prize after whatever period fits your idea of "when the game first starts" My state post winners every week. Never in my life seen a scratch games released. And someone won instantly. The average is about 3 months after the game starts. I mean if a game has 2-3 grand prizes. It would kinda be common sence to draw the game out a wile. I mean if you where trying to get maximum profit out of something. Wouldn't you wanna stretch it out as long as possible. I mean I constantly see the same patterns with certain things." but do you have any clue at all about how probability works?" No but apparently you do. Tell me of all the wins you acquired through this method?

  Probability is not a method of winning. You can only win through luck. Probability is just a number (i.e. your odds of winning), which in the case of scratchers, it's the number of winning tickets in circulation divided by total number of tickets in circulation. For a draw game, it's a math formula that depends on the rules of the game (e.g. pick 3, pick 4, 6 of 40, 5 of 69 plus 1 of 26, etc.), it is non-debatable, and it never changes from one drawing to the next. 

  It's super unusual for someone to win a grand prize instantly as soon as a new scratcher game comes out because the odds of that happening are very very slim. Eventually someone will win it because those tickets do exist. The lottery can't purposely make all grand prizes appear later after selling all those losing tickets because that's not how the tickets are manufactured. Of course you think the lottery knows exactly what each box of tickets is worth and sends them to hand-picked stores, sometimes picking stores across the street from each other, sometimes avoiding the neighborhood entirely. Powerball lets people win at stores in California 48 minutes apart. blah blah blah

  LOL
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  Quote: Originally posted by Tucker Black on May 11, 2025

  Probability is not a method of winning. You can only win through luck. Probability is just a number (i.e. your odds of winning), which in the case of scratchers, it's the number of winning tickets in circulation divided by total number of tickets in circulation. For a draw game, it's a math formula that depends on the rules of the game (e.g. pick 3, pick 4, 6 of 40, 5 of 69 plus 1 of 26, etc.), it is non-debatable, and it never changes from one drawing to the next. 

  It's super unusual for someone to win a grand prize instantly as soon as a new scratcher game comes out because the odds of that happening are very very slim. Eventually someone will win it because those tickets do exist. The lottery can't purposely make all grand prizes appear later after selling all those losing tickets because that's not how the tickets are manufactured. Of course you think the lottery knows exactly what each box of tickets is worth and sends them to hand-picked stores, sometimes picking stores across the street from each other, sometimes avoiding the neighborhood entirely. Powerball lets people win at stores in California 48 minutes apart. blah blah blah

  LOL

  I'm gonna explain this to you in nitwit.  Because at this point. Your not getting it. And I'm gonna ramble on like you do. So you can understand. Normal people know 1+1=2. Your brain tells you 1+1=potatoes. All of these games have been compromised/rigged/cheated. <-----Are you getting this so far? There is no mathematics in rigged/ cheated/ compromised <------- Are you still with me! Hello! Now im gonna ramble on in nitwit like you do. If someone murders someone. There still a murderer even if they only did it once. And never again. Right? Man I just can't with yous two today. Straight up headaches.......
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  Quote: Originally posted by Justing618 on May 11, 2025

  I'm gonna explain this to you in nitwit.  Because at this point. Your not getting it. And I'm gonna ramble on like you do. So you can understand. Normal people know 1+1=2. Your brain tells you 1+1=potatoes. All of these games have been compromised/rigged/cheated. <-----Are you getting this so far? There is no mathematics in rigged/ cheated/ compromised <------- Are you still with me! Hello! Now im gonna ramble on in nitwit like you do. If someone murders someone. There still a murderer even if they only did it once. And never again. Right? Man I just can't with yous two today. Straight up headaches.......

  If that's the case, you're the nitwit for throwing away money on a scam to take wagers from players and pay only the cheaters. Stop playing.

  I enjoy discussing this topic with level-headed people. You are not one of them. I am done talking to you.
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  Quote: Originally posted by Tucker Black on May 11, 2025

  If that's the case, you're the nitwit for throwing away money on a scam to take wagers from players and pay only the cheaters. Stop playing.

  I enjoy discussing this topic with level-headed people. You are not one of them. I am done talking to you.

  As I said! I'll do as I please! And mabye you learned a lesson. But I doubt it. I would advise next time someone posts something you don't like. It would be wise not to start running your mouth and just keep it moving. Kapeish! 🙂
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  if you think the lottery is a scam or a waste of money, then don't play. sit back and laugh at the fools blowing a hundred bucks a week on losing tickets. i could be wrong, but i don't think arguing with strangers on the internet makes the lottery less of a scam or improves your chances of winning.
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  Quote: Originally posted by Tucker Black on May 11, 2025

  If that's the case, you're the nitwit for throwing away money on a scam to take wagers from players and pay only the cheaters. Stop playing.

  I enjoy discussing this topic with level-headed people. You are not one of them. I am done talking to you.

  Well Justing618 likes to make lots of accusations, but offers no proof. 

  Like I told another dude here that swears the lottery is making him lose. Take them to court. See what a judge says. That wont happen because he knows no attorney would take the case and no judge would hear it.

  But, they still play and spend their money.

  JUST LOOK AT THE ODDS OF ANY JACKPOT GAME, THAT WILL TELL YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW
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  Quote: Originally posted by Brock Lee on May 11, 2025

  if you think the lottery is a scam or a waste of money, then don't play. sit back and laugh at the fools blowing a hundred bucks a week on losing tickets. i could be wrong, but i don't think arguing with strangers on the internet makes the lottery less of a scam or improves your chances of winning.

  I don't think you trying to tell me what to do does either. But here you are............
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  Quote: Originally posted by Tucker Black on May 11, 2025

  Probability is not a method of winning. You can only win through luck. Probability is just a number (i.e. your odds of winning), which in the case of scratchers, it's the number of winning tickets in circulation divided by total number of tickets in circulation. For a draw game, it's a math formula that depends on the rules of the game (e.g. pick 3, pick 4, 6 of 40, 5 of 69 plus 1 of 26, etc.), it is non-debatable, and it never changes from one drawing to the next. 

  It's super unusual for someone to win a grand prize instantly as soon as a new scratcher game comes out because the odds of that happening are very very slim. Eventually someone will win it because those tickets do exist. The lottery can't purposely make all grand prizes appear later after selling all those losing tickets because that's not how the tickets are manufactured. Of course you think the lottery knows exactly what each box of tickets is worth and sends them to hand-picked stores, sometimes picking stores across the street from each other, sometimes avoiding the neighborhood entirely. Powerball lets people win at stores in California 48 minutes apart. blah blah blah

  LOL

  "Probability is not a method of winning"

                                       

  For YOU , it may not be.. pRoBaBlY cauze ya don't know how ta uze it..along wit alotta utha Naysayerz & Hecklerz on heaa..

  Oookay..  TB, Whut duzz. the Probability .33 mean?

  And , whut duzz the Oddz of 1.:1 meanz?

  Git awuphf my device G-Man..

   

  -Stat$talker