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Posted: June 26, 2003, 10:22 pm - IP Logged
Quote: Originally posted by Lottowiz34 on June 26, 2003

I'm the first to admit Steve Player probably does make more money selling his systems than he does winning from using them but he has won anywhere from $40,0000-$150,000 or more using them over a period of time and no other developer can say that.






something isn't adding up lottowiz? in a previous post above you stated that your business partner did extensive "research" on mr. player. you know, the comment you made about that he "knew" mr. player's win/loss record? if that is really true you would have accurate intimate knowledge of the figures. given that supposed "knowledge", why is there such a huge gap ($110,000) in your representation? and maybe more?



seems to me that your "friend" really doesn't "know" or you are "covering" for mr. player. care to clarify?



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    Thomas Covenant's avatar - money
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    Posted: June 27, 2003, 5:30 am - IP Logged

    Good call V-dude!


    Okay, now I believe you can predict lottery numbers

      Lottowiz34's avatar - spider
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      Posted: June 27, 2003, 1:44 pm - IP Logged

      Well VisionDude I'm not gonna get into that with you like you did with LottoCheatah,I only know from the info I recieved if it's wrong than it's wrong WHO REALLY CARES? it's possibly there's something I missed but if your so obsessed with this WINS versus LOSSES thing like you were with LottoCheatah than go do the research yourself I'm not trying to cover for Mr.Player I don't work for him so I have no reason too.And further more I only stated what he won from what I discovered and I did admit he probably makes more from selling than from using them.But he has won more than $150,000 if he loss more than he won than that's something I possibly didn't get accurate confirmation on.What $110,000 difference are you referring to anyway?

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        Posted: June 27, 2003, 8:58 pm - IP Logged

        lottowiz,



        who cares? everybody that is interested in the truth anyway. money and hope is exchanged in here. when people like you post something as if it is truth, others will line up. maybe you didn't get all the information. maybe your business partner isn't as good as you thought about his research abilities. either way this stuff matters because it dispenses false hope.



        i don't apologize for requireing truth in advertising.

        wins VS losses is the perfect standard/barometer that measures a persons ability to beat the house edge.

        since people play for money when they play the lottery,

        the amount you win VS the amount you lose tells the WHOLE story.



        obssesion with win/loss....no.



        a stickler for truth in advertising....you "BET".

        VDQPLS

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        P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                 until further notice,  it's  france everyday

          Lottowiz34's avatar - spider
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          Posted: June 27, 2003, 10:25 pm - IP Logged

          My partner did the best he could so it's not our fault if we didn't get all the facts.We don't work for him and could care less how much he makes or loses.I'm not selling anything Steve is so everyone has a mind to decide whether they want his systems or can afford them.I applaud your aggressiveness in searching for the truth and I didn't think my partner was GIFTED in researching his winnings he went thru the same channels Thonas did and more.But anyway like I said before your looking out for the Underdog which is what your good at.As for me I'll keep using my Expertise in this area and make my final decisions on what software or system is worth buying.

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            Posted: June 28, 2003, 7:26 am - IP Logged

            L34:

            Isn't your expertise playing with dolls.  Voodoo dolls, right?  Or is it Barbie dolls too?

              Lottowiz34's avatar - spider
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              Posted: June 28, 2003, 9:02 am - IP Logged

              No it's playing with your M**THER!!!!

                Lottowiz34's avatar - spider
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                Posted: June 28, 2003, 9:13 am - IP Logged

                Yes,but some members are only here because they like to

                cause TROUBLE or put other members down for there opinion or preferred method of playing the games.Those are the ones who will never WIN a major jackpot or even

                comprehend the information provided and discussed here.

                I just hope those individuals don't start crap with you like they did with me and LottoCheatah.You seem very knowledgeable and professional about playing the Lottery

                and that's good because the more you know the more you increase your chances of winning.Hey VisionDude just for the record I wasn't referring to you your okay in my book whenever me and you disagree we atleast act civilised towards each other Thomas Covenant as well.

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                  Posted: June 28, 2003, 9:26 am - IP Logged

                  Stop kissing VD's ass L34.  Why are you always so damn hyper.  There is no war between members.  Again, I'm simply correcting your stupid mistakes and comments.  We're not out to get you.  We're out to teach you no matter how slow you are.  One day, you'll get it.

                    Lottowiz34's avatar - spider
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                    Posted: June 28, 2003, 9:56 am - IP Logged

                    I'm too smart too listen to someone like you,your the one that is Hyper I never said anyone was out too get me

                    I'm just saying people like you have nothing better to do than act like morons. Kissing A** is your job remember? the only stupid comments and remarks in here are yours I really think there's something wrong with you I think your intimidated by me for some reason.People who insult,and make sarcastic remarks in order to make a point are slow uneducated and have problems in there personal life.The only reason I made the comment to VisionDude is I don't want to insult him by placing him in the same category as you.You have got too be the WORST member in here I have never seen any one act so ridiculous as you.And quit trying to get others involved there's no "WE" it's just "YOU" even Orangeman has come to his senses and that's probably because he's a lot more civilised and educated than you

                    are.No one else is complaining about how I respond to subjects in here just you and no one else is trying to

                    "HELP" teach me anything.Your the only imbecile that want's to "MESSAGE STALK" me why did you start this thing all over again anyway everything was quiet then you had to make another stupid remark towards me.Oh well

                    you'll get what's coming too you I'm sure so I'll just sit back and wait and enjoy it.Your giving me way to much attention you need to give it too your wife and 2 kids instead.

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                      Posted: June 28, 2003, 9:56 am - IP Logged

                      As a new member, and I see everyone's opinions.  Mr. don't askjeeves....... It is my opinion that you have issues....... and those issues don't belong in this forum.  Just an opinion take it for what it is worth.  There is more than being a winner in a lottery, how about a winner of friendships and courtesy....

                        Lottowiz34's avatar - spider
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                        Posted: June 28, 2003, 10:09 am - IP Logged

                        DonnaH, AskJeeves just informed me that he isn't old enough to drink which makes him a "KID" anyone under 21 is just wet behind the ears so that explains why he's acting this way.I was giving him a compliment by mentioning he had a wife and 2 kids because I thought he was an ADULT acting like a child but he REALLY is a CHILD.I'm well over the age of 18,19 or 20 or whatever age he is probably 16 or 17.There should be an age limit in here, no one under 21 because it's quite obvious he has a lot of growing up left to do.

                          Lottowiz34's avatar - spider
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                          Posted: June 28, 2003, 10:29 am - IP Logged

                          Now that his true age has been revealed I am no longer going too respond to his "CHILDISH REMARKS" I see now that he can't help the way he is and acts the only solution is to ingnore what can't be "HELPED" and in this case his "SANITY" and "INTELLIGENCE" "Have a nice day and enjoy the Forum" "ASKJEEVES".This mess is over and done with!!!!!

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                            Posted: June 28, 2003, 12:09 pm - IP Logged

                            prometheus,

                            thanks for yo

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                            P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                                     until further notice,  it's  france everyday

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                              Posted: June 29, 2003, 11:53 am - IP Logged

                              L34:

                              Since when do people consider someone an adult if he or she is at leaset 21.  Give me a break!  I'm 19 and you're calling me a kid? The last time I checked some 18 yr old high school basketball player just signed a 90 Million contract with Nike.  I don't think Nike would be throwing money away at kids.

                              If I'm old enough to vote, I'm definitely an adult.  L34:  you're 36 yrs old, almost  twice my age.  you can be old enough to be my dad so act like an adult for once.