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Thomas Covenant's avatar - money
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I do remember apologizing for that remark. Normally I don't insult anyone personally. And if I have, I again apologizie to anyone who may have taken anything I said personally. What do you mean exactly by I cheat on my answers? I know of no way to predict the lottery, or "trap" numbers, or use the natural cosmic forces associated with number vibrations cross referenced with the price of rice in china on cloudy thursdays. People make statements, I say prove it. No one has proven it. The lottery is built to make money, off the losers(they have made a few bucks off of me).


Okay, now I believe you can predict lottery numbers


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    I've EXPLAINED many times how you can try and TRAP the winning numbers instead of trying to PREDICT them.I've done it,not enough to make a living off of but enough to keep me from buying quick-picks.There's really nothing to prove because it may not work for everyone but it has worked for me so just because you can't do it doesn't mean it can't be done.It's a strategy if it didn't WORK AT ALL I wouldn't waste my time using it so if I'm using it then obviously there is a reason for that.And to be perfectly honest with you no one really has to prove anything to you unless they want you to buy there system or software.Strategies are NOT SOLD they are SHARED I gave one to RETXX and he missed hitting the Mass Pick-4 by 1 number and I told him to keep practicing and he should be able to get all 4.The strategy I gave him cost $8 to play Boxed and covers mixed numbers only.I don't make any OUTRAGEOUS claims about hitting so many times a month I just offer ideas and information it's up to the individual player to use the info effectively.

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      So basically you wheel numbers and then filter using the odd, even, hot, cold etc standard. Wheeling has been around for as long as there has been lotteries. Hot, cold, even, odd really doesn't work, the balls have no memory.

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      Okay, now I believe you can predict lottery numbers

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        Quote: Originally posted by Thomas Covenant on September 21, 2003

        Emilyg, but do you share exactly which numbers you bet, on a daily basis, so we could add up profit and loss? Probably not. I know you don't have to prove anything to anybody. But why wouldn't you? What stops you from allowing people to see exactly how much you make? or lose.




        thomas i don't post what numbers i play - because i would feel very bad if other people played them and did not win. i can afford $20.00 a day - if i don't win = it's ok.

        love to nibble those micey feet.

         

                                     


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          I know the balls don't have memory I have read countless things about this,how do you know adding filters to numbersin a wheel don't work? have you tried it personally? it hasnothing to do with whether the balls have memory or not "WE ARE GAMBLING" Thomas I don't mean to be insulting but for someone that obviously has intelligence you don't sound very smart you sound like those people from the Middle Ages who said the world was flat and this or that cannot be done or true because we believe otherwise.You act like the Lottery Software and Systems are living breathing things and they make all the decisions they DON'T the player does these tools just give you options or make suggestions the player makes the final decision based on the data.How come Professional Casino Gamblers win at Card games against the House? it's because they use SKILL and STRATEGY based on experience gathered from playing the game like card counting and what not.Now the players that compete against one another are relying on skill but a little more luck is involved because everyone may have the same skill level but depending on the Card that is drawn the least skilled player could win the tournament so that's where luck is involved.Of course the card counters won't win all the time but they have an ACTUAL EDGE that's why they are BANNED from CASINO's.Now comparing it to the Lottery if a player is skilled at selecting his NUMBERS and FILTERS

          and they are correct he will HIT numbrs in the game and depending on the WIN guarantee it could even be a JACKPOT.These are TOOLS not the SECRET to hitting numbers there is NO SECRET if someone can win buying a QUICK-PICK or pulling numbers out of a HAT why can't they WIN using there INTELLIGENCE and TOOLS that are currently available? is it because "you say it can't be done" if so that's ridiculous I've hit the numbers more than once in my life and more than I did using quick-picks so if it isn't POSSIBLE how did I do it? LUCK?

          I'm afraid not LUCK only happens once because the majority of players that have WON A LOT of MONEY from a quick-pick were never able to repeat it.I've read a few that have but that was DEFINITELY LADY LUCK intervening on there behalf and I emphasize FEW.Every time I won I used some form of number selection,filtering and wheeling when I was right I won when I was wrong I lost.I don't play everyday just every now and then I don't think you had much success with these TOOLS back then so you put the blame on them instead of yourself.The reason I say this is because I first started using these TOOLS in 1997 and couldn't even get 2 numbers so you know what I said? this stuff is bad and doesn't work but when I started corresponding with other players using the same TOOLS that had HIT 3,4 or 5 numbers I said to myself how come they hit and I can't? well it was because I wasn't using them correctly

          I WAS EXPECTING these TOOLS to somehow do EVERYTHING for me and hit ALL THE NUMBERS but it doesn't work like that.I needed to learn how to select the numbers myself and learn how to correctly select my filters and find wheels that would actually enable me to hit something worthwhile.Now that I have I'm concentrating on developing a STRATEGY that will help me hit on a more CONSISTANT BASIS.We all have INTELLIGENCE Thomas how the hell do you think Scientist and Regular people come up with new inventions or discover new innovative ideas in the fields of Science and Technology you think that the Lottery is exempt from this? come now use Common Sense nothing is impossible in this world and I'm not talking about inventing or developing a way to PREDICT 4,5 or 6 LotteryNumbers I'm talking about methods that will reduce the odds GREATLY in a PLAYERS FAVOR in order for him to REALISTICALLY achieve hitting the numbers.Thomas your just being close minded and OVER SKEPTICAL to the point that what you say doesn't make sense sometimes especially when you start saying this can't be done JUST BECAUSE.Saying that the Lottery is Random or the Ping-Pong Balls have no memory is not a good reason we all know that all ready so why do you play if it's not possible to WIN? If I were as skeptical as you I wouldn't even be a member here or waste my time playing the Lottery.I know what I know from first hand experience and being a FORMER SKEPTIC myself but I decided to find out by doing research and after much trial and error I realised it is possible to win without using QUICK-PICKS or LUCKY NUMBERS.


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            Besides Emily your a GAMBLER not a LOTTERY NUMBER PREDICTOR so you play the numbers for your enjoyment and benefit.Plus your not being paid to provide numbers for other players I use to want others to give me winning numbers until I realised I could do it myself also if your numbers don't hit your all of a sudden a fraud or people are complaining about the numbers you give.I don't give numbers because it interferes with my concentration not only am I trying to make intelligent decisions but I've got the pressure of making sure these numbers are right for a bunch of other people.

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              I'm skeptical about everything, Pick4Master. That is my personality. That is my thought process. But being skeptical does not mean closed minded. I just need a high level of proof.


              Okay, now I believe you can predict lottery numbers

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                Roughly speaking, those odds are slightly longer than throwing heads on 26 successive tosses of a fair coin. (That unlikely dvent has odds of 1 in 67,108,864.) Given that most people would be reluctant to bet on getting 5 heads in a row, let alone 26, this comparison makes it clear that the psychology of lotteries has a logic all of its own. Devlins Angle) 

                  Thomas, I  read  one of the articles you suggested in your post.

                 Most of the material deals with single dvent odds and probability. The key word that always confuses most people is dvent.  That's it. Is it an dvent involving one coin toss or an dvent involving  5 or 10 or 26 tosses.

                  If a person starts to bet after 6 , 7 , or 9 heads in a row that the next toss will be tails he will win most of the time. That's it. 

                 Your own reference material backs this up1 in 67,108.864 . Thats why its a good bet that an Odd or a HIGH number will flip back after this 50/50 single dvent action goes 7, 8, or 9 times is a row. The odds never change but the probability keeps going up. Get it? 

                   Event is the key word. An dvent can have multiple tosses.

                  PROMETHEUS       


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                  TOO MUCH PROOF in my opinion but if that's how you play the game good luck on your journey to that winning ticket.Just prove it too yourself and if it doesn't work then you just proved that it DOESN'T WORK FOR YOU but don't include everyone else in your analogy of what works and what's possible or not.Someone out there has better ideas then you or me and is not willing to accept NO IT CAN'T BE DONE or IT'S NOT POSSIBLE as an answer to everything.

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                    Quote: Originally posted by Thomas Covenant on September 21, 2003







                    I have read that a lot of people missed some numbers of a lottery draw by 1, or at most a few numbers off. What does that really represent? Are you close?  ............................................








                    Those words reminded me of a cartoon I once read when President Kennedy was in office.  It showed a drunk at a bar telling the sad story of how he missed out on being the president of the U.S.A. by one number.  It seems he had been the captain of the PT108.

                    RJOh

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                      >Your own reference material backs this up 1 in 67,108.864 . Thats why its a good bet that an Odd or a HIGH number will flip back after this 50/50 single dvent action goes 7, 8, or 9 times is a row. The odds never change but the probability keeps going up. Get it? <



                      We've been through this before. So give me a real world application. How would you use this system to win at pick 3?


                      Okay, now I believe you can predict lottery numbers

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                        Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on September 22, 2003




                        Quote: Originally posted by Thomas Covenant on September 21, 2003






                        I have read that a lot of people missed some numbers of a lottery draw by 1, or at most a few numbers off. What does that really represent? Are you close?  ............................................







                        Those words reminded me of a cartoon I once read when President Kennedy was in office.  It showed a drunk at a bar telling the sad story of how he missed out on being the president of the U.S.A. by one number.  It seems he had been the captain of the PT108.

                        RJOh




                        PT108 had nothing to do w/it It but 109 & Kennedy  DID!
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                          Quote: Originally posted by Thomas Covenant on September 22, 2003


                          >Your own reference material backs this up 1 in 67,108.864 . Thats why its a good bet that an Odd or a HIGH number will flip back after this 50/50 single dvent action goes 7, 8, or 9 times is a row. The odds never change but the probability keeps going up. Get it? <

                          We've been through this before. So give me a real world application. How would you use this system to win at pick 3?



                          Simple system 3 digit!

                          make a copy of all 3 digit for a month/12months/year

                          Keep mid/eve seperate

                          start wit a list by numbers box/straight

                          box      /straight                                                                                                  135x?/135x?-153x?-315x?-351x?-513x?-531x?

                          how many x's boxes/straight month/year

                          the highest top lowest bottom & compair list month/year

                          or

                          numbers p/o day/month/year

                          Every year the same numbers come out box/straight top 10/20?

                          Whatever!

                          Call it any thing you want system/idea/program! but it works not every day but weekly/monthly/yearly!

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                            Mr Steel,

                            The drunk was captain of the PT-108
                            Jack Kennedy was captain of the PT-109 and  went on to become President of the U.S.A.

                            RJOh

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                              Why are Statistics important?  That was the topic.

                               There are 2 games going on at the same time that are important. Playing and Betting. You are not going to win most of the time, so you better make hay while the sun shines. My bets are several times over average today on the Midday game. Why? Statistics. I have no luck. That's why Statistics are important to me. It's all I have.

                               Odd roots will outnumber even roots for the next several days on the Ga. Midday. I will be playing in that half of the swimming pool this week. Increase my chances by 50%. $$$$$ Odd root today ....bet on it!   

                               Wish me Luck.......I mean .....Wish me Good Statistics! LOL