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• Johnny5

  

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  Man.. faked out again. 
• lottoarchitect

  

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  Johnny5 it doesn't matter if you hit the numbers or not. It is the methodology used that mostly counts. A system alone will give you occasionally correct results whatever you do. Trying to achieve the best results is a really hard task, if not impossible. The reason is randomness and we cannot do something good on that. Yesterday, I enhanced my "S-variant" method. The results are really impressive on their accurancy. The fact is that it works fine on some type data, but on the other hand there are other data whose results are not so good. This doesn't demote the quality or the usefulness of the method. What I mean by that is that your system may work well for a particular set of data but at the same time it doesn't work for another set (lets say another lottery). Don't dissapointed, you may have something really good but don't expect it to work on every case. Will you tell me your system or not?

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• Johnny5

  

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  Yeah..APA.. I am.  I will email you two tables I use for the Fantasy 5 which is what I am working on...

  I will send them in Excel if thats ok with you.

  I think with this you will see what I have been cordinating and see if it will help you get other un-forseen corners.

  Just give me a bit so I can gather together current data.
• lottoarchitect

  

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  Excel is ok, take your time. I was just wondering if we would try to improre it together. Thanks

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• hypersoniq

  

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  I'm wondering if some things would be easier if moved from excel to an access DB... Maybe using the switchboard form to set up an "all-in-one" tool to do things like update drawings, then you would just have to run queries, this might be easier for back-testing...

  Has anyone played with MS Access?

  Have an EXCELlent day!
• luckycat

  

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  johnny5

  that is the same position I HAVE always thought, in other forums I had asked if anyone knew how many machines and sets of balls are rotated. I am IN  OHIO.

  because I believe if the same machine and set of balls do happen to get together that would be the pattern<  you have taken it further, as to heat/test runs ect.  I agree. so is there anyway a person can see a pattern and somehow say this draw on this day the pattern was? and somehow put many of thes together.

   

  just my thoughts    regards machine and b sets too

   

      luckycat        >>>>>>>    purr-purr--purrfect                           
• four4me

  

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  Luckycat there was a program on discovery channel about this. The balls in all of the games are as pristine as they can possibly be. Each ball is weighed in a temperature controlled room to within a couple tenths of a gram. Then each set of balls is placed into a special carrier. Human hands never touch the balls they have to wear special gloves so no oil from the skin can get onto the balls. The machines are kept in the same controlled temp room. There are guards and lottery gaming officials present at all times and cameras watches every move the ball handlers take from the time they enter the room until the time the drawing takes place the balls are watched placed in guarded safes. This program was an hour long I cannot describe to you every detail but believe this. When the drawing takes place it is as meticulous as can possible be done.
• lottoarchitect

  

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  Well it seems the time has com

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• ants

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by hypersoniq on December 18, 2003
  

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  I'm wondering if some things would be easier if moved from excel to an access DB... Maybe using the switchboard form to set up an "all-in-one" tool to do things like update drawings, then you would just have to run queries, this might be easier for back-testing...

  Has anyone played with MS Access?

  
  

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  Hypersoniq

  I used to use Access to sort out my combinations but I find it is better to use Excel because it performs special calculations and sort out your combinations more easily than Access would.  Have you tried importing an Excel spread sheet into Access ? That would be easier for you because it would allow you to perform Excel functions within Access, thereby you can work with Access as well . 

  

   

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• hypersoniq

  

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  To me, Excel is like an analog voltmeter and access is like a digital one... sometimes you need to see the rate of change, where excel is best, and sometimes you want the power of SQL, which you have in access... with access it's easy to update a drawing, when you create a query it automatically includes that update so you don't need to go through changing formulas or using macros to expand range names., but with excel you can make a quick visual scan to determine the success rate of backtesting.

  you can use both together, and if either is missing some special functionality, both allow manipulation in VBA. right now I'm working on figuring out an excel formula or access query to count skips, tools like this would make things much easier than the pencil/paper method (and more practical when using PA pick 3 data which has some 9100+ drawings...). After skips, I need to figure out how to count out-of-position hits... I know software exists that already does this but I will never spend dime one on any system and 9/10ths of the fun is doing it yourself :-) It's just a constant challenge.... then once something is worked out, there is always the challenge of figuring out how to interpret it and use the info to make better picks... someday...

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• EXCALIBUR

  

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  Hi

  Apagogeas, I really would like to try your program when you are ready to release it, then after some or all of us, use it, then we can tell you what we think of it and also about improvements.

  I hope that it's ready soon, and welcome back, when ever you come back.
• lottoarchitect

  

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  Hi everyone! I'm back and ready for work again! During these days, I was working on wheeling systems. I designed a simple program to generate wheels (to be used in my program). It is guaranteed to produce the best possible wheel. If you are interested, let me know. I give it as a freeware and its 274k .zip file. No setup needed. I you want to generate wheels (or even to find out if there are better wheels than those you allready use) ask me to send you a copy.

  About the main program I work on, its still under development. I've decided what features to include in this version and hopefully it will be ready soon enough.

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• Johnny5

  

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  Well for those that are wondering if it is wiser to use Access DB than Excel.  You have way more flexable use of Access than Excel but a lot more code writting.

  The advantage of using Access though is that you can design your calculation without changing original orders of any of the data and create sepparate data to be analyzed later.

  Access has a bigger open use for VB instruction than Excel and therefore will give you more, but like I said you would have to get into programming domains that you might not be familiar with.  Unless you know some programming, then it won't matter.

  I use Visual Foxpro 8 to make my Data Management.  I have the flexability of using command line instructions/data manipulation and also create programs to perform other data manipulation without it affecting any current data.
• Johnny5

  

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  RJOh.. I read your post here.  And your right.  Lottos are random.  But you can increase your chances of winning.  If you Track Numbers (Hot Numbers), Calculate Possible Patterns, or what ever you use.  It will increase the ODDS. 

  See it is more than common sence that if low numbers have hit in the last week..then high numbers are due to hit.  Thats what makes it RANDOM.  You get three (3) days of lows and you say.. oh I am going to play low cuz two (2) weeks ago this happend and they stayed low for six (6) consecutive hits and then went high for two (2) days.  So here you go and went LOW.

  Now the guys at the Lotto Place took in the same machine as the previous draw and different ball set and there went all your hopes cuz this machine decided to work stronger or slower than the day before and hit HIGH instead.  Even though they tested three (3) times before the draw and it was working fine, but they can't stop and check for this at DRAW TIME.

  This is were calculating comes in.  Its not just about HOT numbers its about following the Randomness.  RANDOM = NO PATTERN.  Lotto numbers have evidential patterns do to the fact that there randomness is kept equal through all the numbers.  So in reality it is only RANDOM in any given day but not in a group of days. Considering Machines/Ballsets/Positions..

  So patterns are group calculation in order to narrow down the possibilities of hitting it big.  I already hit for $5,000 the other day and it was NOT ON QUICK PICKS.. I used my time wisely and took my time and followed the leaders so I can hit them at the right time..  Not only that .. I would have hit it again if I would have stuck to it.. cuz another combo of the ones I used hit two days later.

  Like my daddy use to say..."THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING"..