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Posted: February 9, 2004, 6:13 pm - IP Logged

How can a lottery system predict numbers? Don't lotteries use plastic balls that pop up into a chute? How could you predict that?

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    Pinky: I think so Brain, but suppose we do the hokey pokey and turn around, is that really what it's all about?
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    If you want something you have never had, then you have to do something you have never done. 

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      Posted: February 9, 2004, 8:48 pm - IP Logged

      No way. There's too many variables.

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        Posted: February 9, 2004, 9:06 pm - IP Logged

        Tell that too the many that

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          Posted: February 9, 2004, 9:17 pm - IP Logged

          Welcome to lottery post.
          There is much info here to check out about the lottery games.
          A very informative site.

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            Posted: February 9, 2004, 9:19 pm - IP Logged

            There hasn't been many that have won. It isn't possible.

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              Posted: February 9, 2004, 9:33 pm - IP Logged

              Fwup,

              You seem awful sure of that.  Maybe you should read up on all the different ideas here before making such a definitive statement.  And how do you know there haven't been that many who have won using systems?  If you know so much, perhaps you can tell us all the exact number that have won.

               

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                Posted: February 9, 2004, 10:03 pm - IP Logged

                >>>And how do you know there haven't been that many who have won using systems? If you know so much, perhaps you can tell us all the exact number that have won.<<<



                That would be a little hard to do. There are quite a number of lottery systems out there. But what I can say, is that if you ask a mathematician, they will say that it is impossible. But I think I will take the opinion of the people who write and sell lottery systems. After all, they make quite a good living selling the systems, so they shouldn't be bias. Right?


                Okay, now I believe you can predict lottery numbers

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                  Posted: February 9, 2004, 10:32 pm - IP Logged

                  TC,

                  I don't sell any lottery systems, so hopefully you're not referring to me.  I'm not willing to make blanket statements about anything, such as there is "no way" to win with a system.  Plus, I have had some uncanny "luck" the times I have played numbers generated by a couple of members here.  I don't do it that often, but when I have, it has been way, way better than the 1,000 to 1 odds of hitting a straight bet.

                   

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                    Posted: February 9, 2004, 10:38 pm - IP Logged

                    Of course I wasn't talking abo


                    Okay, now I believe you can predict lottery numbers

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                      Posted: February 9, 2004, 11:20 pm - IP Logged

                      All lottery systems have to work on the same basic principle: using past winning numbers to determine future winning numbers. And that's impossible. There are too many random variables.



                      Mechanical randomizers work by mixing up plastic balls in a container, either by forced air, or the turning of a drum. The starting position of the balls are unknown, and unknowable. The air turbulence or mechanical action of the drum is also unknown and unknowable. And even if all the equipment was never changed, normal wear and tear and maintenance on the equipment would change the coefficient of friction enough from one use to another to make the placement of the plastic balls completely unpredictable.



                      The electronic lottery number randomizers work in a number of different ways, but the most common design starts with an electronic device that picks up random atmospheric static. When it detects a random burst over a certain level, it starts a timer. The next random burst stops the timer. That period of time is used for the basis of a mathematical formula that results in the lottery numbers as the product. No one could possibly predict what numbers will be picked.



                      Plus, lottery officials can surf the web as well as anyone else. If they felt that someone could come up with a system to beat their lottery, they would buy the system and test it out. If it worked, they could easily change their lottery so it wouldn't work.

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                        Posted: February 10, 2004, 12:04 am - IP Logged

                        Hi Fwup and other friends out here:

                        You heard of "Monkey Kung-Fu"...?! It wins!

                        So if monkeying around with Kung-Fu can win, WHY can't "Just Monkeying Around With Numbers"...boy?!

                        You MUST read all the posts...for you know many a times, results achieved have been astounding or near astounding when people deviated from "standard" theories...!!

                        Good Luck!

                        Just Monkeying Around With Numbers...!

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                          Posted: February 10, 2004, 12:08 am - IP Logged

                          There is a disconect between the state lottery games and the outside lottery industry that has grown up around it.  You will find they pretend we don't exit, that's why you don't see Lotterypost as one of the links on official state sites.

                          As for prediction, it can be based on anything from the movement of the stars to shaking homemade lotto balls in a bag.  The thing is you have to play something so you select a means of picking numbers that works more often then any other you've tried, that's your prediction system.

                          Now there is nothing wrong with predicting based on ball frequency, provided you know to expect a percentage of winning balls to come from hot, average and cold.

                          If you think people around here simply add up how many times each ball has hit and run to the 7/11 to play the hottest, well your idea of making fun of the bumpkins will need to be reworked.  BobP

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                            Posted: February 10, 2004, 1:11 am - IP Logged

                            Prediction might not be possible, unless you are a Nostradamus, but you can follow a series of related dvents to their conclusion and or you can wait for a particular dvent to happen, if you know by prior statistics or repeat observation that it will again happen.



                            Fwup="There hasn't been many that have won. It isn't possible"



                            Most of those who win by using "Systems or Software" don't tell you so.



                            The lottery is not as random as they want you to believe and if it really was, then it would be easier to win it, than if it wasn't.

                            How? Well if all the numbers had exactly the same chance of coming out and if there where 10 of them let's say that they would come out like this:

                            3,6,7,2,0,4,5,9,1 and 8

                            and then next time or next run they would again come out like this:

                            3,6,7,2,0,4,5,9,1 and 8

                            So it would not be a matter of prediction but rather of observation, if it always happens like so, it will keep on happening like so, right?

                            There are things that you learn by observation.

                            For example, you learn that on a particular lotto game and on a particular number of draws a certain percent of the total number of numbers come out and of those that came out a certain number or percent of them repeat and of those that repeat a certain number or percent repeat

                            1 time, others 2 times, others 3 times, others 4 times and yet others 5 times but on this particular game and number of draws you have learned by observation that none of the numbers ever repeat more than 5 times and that the

                            given percents do change but very slowly over a long period of time.

                            So observation and statistics tell you that the game and the numbers behave in certain particular ways, some of them ways always and others every so often given particular circumstances.

                            But again, what do I know? Right?

                            Bye.



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                              Posted: February 10, 2004, 6:37 am - IP Logged
                              Quote: Originally posted by BobP on February 10, 2004


                              There is a disconnect between the state lottery games and the outside lottery industry that has grown up around it.  You will find they pretend we don't exit, that's why you don't see Lotterypost as one of the links on official state sites.





                              Bob,

                              You don't know how right you are!  That was a very astute comment.  It is true for most state lotteries.  However, there are some states that break with this concept, and who have been helpful and communicative.  Those are the states with unpretentious lottery directors and staffs, and who I think are doing a great job.

                              Unfortunately, because the lottery is only about one thing (money), and because money is the root of all power in government, there is a great desire to keep control of every aspect of the lottery, which is why they don't "like" sites like Lottery Post.

                               

                              Check the State Lottery Report Card
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                              Sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings
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