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Posted: February 10, 2004, 7:28 am - IP Logged

I have won more money playing the lottery in the last year using systems and analysis than I did in the previous ten years not using a system or any type of analysis. Now a system may not win you a big jackpot because the odds are still enormously high (not saying that you still can't though) but a system can help you win smaller tier prizes more often. Prior lottery drawings give away clues that can lead you to picking more probable numbers and to an extent sometimes "predictable" numbers.


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    "FWUP" first of all "PREDICTING" lottery numbers is for "PSYCHICS" and I don't recall any members being Psychic in here.And we all know Psychics can't even predict lottery numbers so why would we try? what the players are doing in here is called "HANDICAPPING" the game in order to bend the odds in there favor.It's done all the time in Casino,Horse Racing and Sports gambling in Lottery the goal is to select a GROUP of numbers in order to trap the winning numbers.Just selecting 6 numbers in the Lottery is left for players that use LUCK methods or Quick-Picks beause that's the only way there gonna be able to win.Players that use strategies,systems and software will analyse the numbers and there variables to help them choose what's most likely to come up.Even though the Numbers are drawn Randomly there are still patterns,trends and biases that can be exploited so as to increase your chances of winning.The fact is that since all 49 numbers can't be drawn at once you can analyse those 49 because 43 of them won't come up just 6.With practice and skill you can select say 15-20 numbers out of that 49 and trap say 3-6 numbers.

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      Quote: Originally posted by Fwup on February 10, 2004


      Mechanical randomizers work by mixing up plastic balls in a container, either by forced air, or the turning of a drum. The starting position of the balls are unknown, and unknowable. The air turbulence or mechanical action of the drum is also unknown and unknowable. And even if all the equipment was never changed, normal wear and tear and maintenance on the equipment would change the coefficient of friction enough from one use to another to make the placement of the plastic balls completely unpredictable.




      I don't agree with your above statement.  The start positions ARE known, every single draw.  Dalls fall into the machine starting with number 1, and ending with the highest numbered ball.  Although I will agree, there are small differences from draw to draw, these differences would seem minor compared to the possibilities.  Lotteries APPEAR random beacuse of the vast possible amount of outcomes.  But if you are to look at the overall picture, why do draws behave the way they do?


      Quote: Originally posted by Fwup on February 10, 2004


      Plus, lottery officials can surf the web as well as anyone else. If they felt that someone could come up with a system to beat their lottery, they would buy the system and test it out. If it worked, they could easily change their lottery so it wouldn't work.



      Hmmm....  I found out recently that the Florida lottery changed the fortmat of the Megaball game.  Seems it was chagned to generate more interest, but oddly enough, the change increased the odds too...  Funny, isnt it.

      *Andrew*

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        Since you have 43 numbers that won't be drawn all a skilled player needs to do is eliminate from the 49 say

        29 numbers which gives you 20,eliminating 31 numbers gives you 18 and eliminating 34 numbers gives you 15."The Process of Elimination" doing analysis to see which numbers are least likely to be drawn.For you to just come out and say no one can win using systems and not many win if they do shows that you don't much about Lottery Numbers and how to play Intelligently.All the numbers will come close to be equally drawn in a small draw history say 7-10 draws.But when you increase the draw history from 26-52 draws or more there is a BIG difference between there frequency ofhits.Some will hit 7-10 times while others will hit 1-3 times and this information is what you would use along with other strategies to helpselect your numbers.


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          Posted: February 10, 2004, 9:54 am - IP Logged

          Hello All,


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            Posted: February 10, 2004, 10:30 am - IP Logged

            All,

            There are appa

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              In 1901, Guglielmo Marchese Marconi stated that he could send wireless telegraph signals across the Atlantic Ocean. Many in the press and scientific community labeled him as crazy and said laughingly such a thing could never be done. Marconi wasn't discouraged and built an antenna at Cornwall, England and another at St John's, Newfoundland and on December 12, 1901, against all odds and despite all skeptics, sent the first wireless signal across the Atlantic. "...to the total disbelief and amazement of many of his well read skeptics!" 

              Just like the many people discouraging Marconi and saying it couldn't be done, lottery systems have skeptics....but I'm not one of them.  By the way, the first letter Marconi sent across the Atlantic on his wireless signal was an "S" and that's also the first letter in the word Systems :)  'good luck on MM draw tonight!'

              ... the lottery never fails to surprise!
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                Posted: February 10, 2004, 11:22 am - IP Logged

                I totally agree with pick 4 master................................................

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                  OK, one more post and I'll go away. Suppose I had a lottery machine that contained 10 balls, numbered 1 thru 10. The machine is activated, and the balls start tumbling around. The first ball to pop up is 1. The next ball is 2. The next ball is 3. The next ball is 4. What would the chances be that the next ball would be 5?



                  The answer is "the same chance as any other number". Why? Because the balls don't know what number is painted on them. Balls don't pop up into the chute because of some mathematical progression of numbers. They pop up because of physical attributes of the balls, container, air supply, etc. The number painted on them is irreldvent.



                  If you look hard enough, you can find patterns in any set of data. For example, the Bible Code. But just finding patterns in previous data doesn't guarantee those patterns will be found in future data.



                  As far as people winning using systems, they'll always be winners. According to a theory called the Bell Curve, if a group of people play the lottery using a system, a small percentage of people will win much more than usual, another small percentage won't win at all, and the majority of people will win exactly as the odds would predict. That small group of winners are the ones that loudly proclaim the effectiveness of systems. Plus I'm sure that some of the members of the non winning groups also claim to have won, as well as people who have an interest in selling the programs.



                  And finally, they'll always be people who buy systems because they hope it will work. They're not buying a system so much as buying a dream.



                  I'm not really interested in lotteries. I stumbled upon this site while looking for someone's email address. I'll go away now.

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                          Let's play a little game. I will play the #40 number combinations below for the next week or 7 draws on the Ga. Eve. Pick-3 .

                          I will play all #40 numbers in combo for .50 cents each.($20 per day)   My partner in crime will play all 40 numbers for $1.00 straight.


                      We will both play the #17 numbers in bold for $34.00 per draw for the next 2 draws only ...one dollar Straight and one dollar S/B.  When thefirst hit occurs we will rearrange the betting order at that time.      

                      01  1234

                      02  123 

                      03  12           

                      04  1

                      05  67890

                      06  56789

                      07  45678

                      08  34567

                      09  23456

                      00  12345         

                       

                       

                      The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                    Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                    Odds never change .....but probability does. 

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                        Posted: February 10, 2004, 2:08 pm - IP Logged

                        Quote:

                        ... the lottery never fails to surprise!
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                          Quote: Originally posted by golotto on February 10, 2004

                          There are no guarantees in life or in the lotto. But by saying that you found patterns in previous data...doesn't that justify exactly what we're saying? hehe


                          A popular urban legend in the '70's was the President's Curse. It seems that prior to 1980, every US President that was inaugurated in a year ending in zero has died in office. So, looking at past data, one would predict that Reagan would have died in office. But of course he didn't. In this case, past data doesn't predict future data, because the year didn't really have anything to do with presidential deaths. It was just a coincidence.



                          So, think about the lottery this way: You're not really picking numbers. You're picking a plastic ball. The number painted on the ball has no influence on whether the ball will be picked or not. A ball in one lottery drawing wouldn't share the same physical characteristics with a ball from another drawing, even if they had the same number painted on them.



                          In this case, past data doesn't predict future data, because the number painted on the ball has nothing to do with whether or not the ball gets picked. The physical characteristics of the ball itself determines whether or not it gets picked.

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                            If your not interested in playing the lottery then why are you in here trying to Rain on our Parade? That's like me being an Atheist and going into a Christian Forum saying "GOD Doesn't exist" because there's no physical proof or no eyewitnesses.You can't tell us that we don't know what we're doing if players are winning by doing it more often than they would with quick-picks.People still believe in him and we have plenty of players that won because they knew what they were doing and used there Intelligence.I never heard of a "Bell Curve" helping someone win money in lottery games before.


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                              Your WRONG my friend because one thing you forgot is that GAMBLING is also "PSYCHOLOGICAL" if you believe you can WIN you will if you don't you won't.The balls are a physical representation of the numbers without the numbers on the balls you wouldn't be able to analyse what's going on.So in a sense your giving the balls "life" so to speak in programming the codes are represented by variables otherwise programmers wouldn't be able to read or write the codes needed for a program to run.In the lottery the balls are the code with the numbers being the variables to identify the code.Your just a skeptic so of course your going to justify your reasoning with this nonsense.You see I use to be just like you 10 yrs ago until I started playing the games and learning about them and how to play intelligently.Before that I just bought quick-picks and never won a dime but once I started using strategies and systems I started winning.So the proof is in the fact that I started winning when before I wasn't.