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Posted: February 11, 2004, 9:29 pm - IP Logged
Quote: Originally posted by prob987 on February 11, 2004



A wheeler in California won about four or five years ago, and won the 1st prize, the second prize, the third prize, etc.  Lottery officials were amazed by this.  The reason they were amazed is that they'd never seen such a situation before.  The reason they'd never seen it is because wheelers are less likely to win than the purchasers of quick picks.  The majority of winners buy quick picks, although occassionally people have special numbers. 
 





Wheelers are less likely to win only because there are only a small minority of us who use them, not because wheeling doesn't work.

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    wheeling is the key and what really matters


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      Jeff,

      You mentioned that the use of computers is bad. Actually I am finding that the use of computers is much better for systems,  in PICK 3 particularly with strgith hits. California also uses computer generated numbers as well.

      Here as a player's example yesterday'sh*t of the PICK 3 Wheeling ZID System/ Dr. Zid plays in California, PICK 3 Straight only, and uses a Hot Number Wheel (40 Numbers) and plays the same numbers for 5 draws, amount $200, win $500..

      System ZID - PICK 3 Straight Wheeling
      Draw entries: 12
      310 451 826 365 980 299 847 879 255 902
      687 846
      Hot/Cold Selections
      Pos. 1: Hot# 4(3298) Cold# 0()
      Pos. 2: Hot# 4(9458) Cold# 0()
      Pos. 3: Hot# 4(7569) Cold# 0()

      Filter Settings
      Hot/Cold: HHH
      High/Low: HHL HLL
      Odd/Even: OOO OOE OEE EEE
      Num.Type: Singles Doubles Triples

      Playing Suggestions: 40
      289 849 259 286 389 846 949 249 256 285
      359 386 845 946 246 255 287 299 349 356
      385 847 945 245 257 296 346 355 387 399
      947 247 295 345 357 396 297 347 395 397  

      In red the numbers in ticket 3, bold the winning number.

      Faxed winning ticket..

      If that shows something, it shows that methodical play with systems can win.

      Good Luck!


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        Posted: February 12, 2004, 11:13 am - IP Logged

        But some people will say spending $200 to play is too much money but the thing they forget is that it's "GAMBLING" if you went to a Casino to gamble you'd spend that in 1 night instead of $200 spent over a 5 day period.If you guys really want to WIN be prepared to spend the cash I know a guy in Isreal that wins regularly spending $60-$100 on the Pick-3 Steve Player spends anywhere from $500-$1000 on the Daily games.This is the best way to get consistant hits select more numbers and play more combinations.I don't win that much because I can't afford to spend $40-$100 even twice a week but if I could I'd be winning each time.I try to play 5-10 combinations but when you do that you run the risk of excluding the winning numbers by trying to reduce the combo's to a reasonable playing level.So the "SECRET" to "CONSISTANT HITS" is too play more combinations I did an experiment awhile back on paper generating anywhere from 40-60 combo's and I would have won 3 out of 5 times each week I tested this strategy.It worked simply from the fact that I was including more numbers in my wheel and selecting more Filters.More filters gives you more combo's less filters gives you less combo's to play.Because when you select more filters your capturing more variables associated with the numbers.The reason you get more combo's is because of things like doubles,mixed,low-high,odd-even etc... if you knew the exact variables you would have a lot less combinations to play.If I chose 1 low-high,1 even-odd, 1 double format,1 line width I've just eliminated "A LOT" of unnecessary combo's.But since it's very hard to do that you would select as many variables as you feel are due within your playing budget.

          Thomas Covenant's avatar - money
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          >>>By the way Thomas Covenant ....I'm not very impressed with your Slot machine hit back in the olden days. The Odds on Pick-3 are 15 to 18 times worse than any Vegas slot. Try this. <<<



          Wasn't really meant to impress. If I had kept playing, I would have lost the money, just as you do when you keep playing Pick 3.


          Okay, now I believe you can predict lottery numbers

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            "Quote from FWUP"



            The answer is "the same chance as any other number". Why? Because the balls don't know what number is painted on them. Balls don't pop up into the chute because of some mathematical progression of numbers. They pop up because of physical attributes of the balls, container, air supply, etc. The number painted on them is irreldvent.

            "End Quote"



            Have you ever done wheather testing.. or vacum testing of any kind???



            Lets get physical then... Yes.. the balls do not know what numbers are on them.. but You do. Yes.. the balls have to go on physical conditions.. and don't know that ether..but you do... and yes.. if you have first 1 then 2 then 3 then 4.. I would say.. that if 5 was the ball that has traced itself to be heavier then 6,7,8,9 or 10.. it will be the next ball in the chute..   and that my frind is not randomness.. its called taking an educated guess.

            Or as science calls it..   A THEORY.



            Now that we know this.. know this also..



            It is through theory that we use trapping sofware.. both that we purchase and that we create ourselves.. ether way.. we use all probable cause to eliminate.. the lag.. and exasperate (To increase the gravity or intensity) our chances of winning.   Now with this in mind.. please observe. That you can say what ever you want.. but the proof is in the pudding.. I myself have won $5000 not too long ago.. and in the past other winnings..



            Mind you.. that while I played "QUICK" picks.. I only won .. ONE (1) time.. and it was 3 numbers on the lotto... not much Huh?.. while the other way.. I ahve accomplished much more.. especially when I was doing the Mega.. up until they stopped it for a year.. cuz I was driving them crazy.. and some narc that worked there.. shot me off.. but that is besides the point... the point is..



            I AM LIVING PROOF THAT SYSTEMS WORK MUCH BETTER THAN .... RANDOM PICKING...   Its a waist of money and time.. and I can't afford to waist nether one... CAN U?



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              >>>that you can say what ever you want.. but the proof is in the pudding.. I myself have won $5000 not too long ago.. and in the past other winnings..<<<



              And other people have won NOT using systems. The proof is not in the pudding, the proof is having a public and documented test.


              Okay, now I believe you can predict lottery numbers

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                Posted: February 12, 2004, 3:53 pm - IP Logged

                Thomas,

                Please call your brother.


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                  Quick-Picks are based on Luck and Random Odds if 10,000 or more players buy a quick-pick in the Play 4 there's gonna be winners but your ticket may not be one of them that's where luck plays it's part.I would rather make my own luck by selecting numbers myself,when I played quick-picks 10 yrs ago I NEVER won anything when I started using strategies and software I started winning.So if my winnings went from Nothing to Something how do you explain it? it's really common sense we're not saying that our way of playing is the only way just that your chances are INCREASED as opposed to just letting RANDOM chance do it for you.You can play how you want but I would think that if there was something you could do to increase your chances of winning you would try it instead of putting it down.But since he doesn't even play the lottery I guess he's content with what he has so how about letting us be content with what we do.

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                    Quote: Lets get physical then... Yes.. the balls do not know what numbers are on them.. but You do. Yes.. the balls have to go on physical conditions.. and don't know that ether..but you do... and yes.. if you have first 1 then 2 then 3 then 4.. I would say.. that if 5 was the ball that has traced itself to be heavier then 6,7,8,9 or 10.. it will be the next ball in the chute..   and that my frind is not randomness.. its called taking an educated guess.

                    Or as science calls it..   A THEORY.
                    Yes, but you don't know if ball 5 is heavier, or if the ball that has a 5 on it now is the same ball that used to have a 5 on it, or if being heavier would cause the ball to go into the chute next.



                    Just knowing the numbers that were chosen in the past can't be used to predict numbers that will be chosen in the future, because balls that share the same number don't necessarily share the same physical characteristics.

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                      You still don't get it do you? you will never be able to understand the concept of GAMBLING because your not a gambler.By the way what are you tryig to accomplish with your statements? get us to stop playing the Lottery with our systems and software? or are you trying

                      to convince yourself that they don't work.


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                        Are you trying to convince us that lottery systems don't work or trying to convince yourself? did it ever occur to you that if they REALLY didn't work we wouldn't be wasting our time using them? we're not stupid you know I use to work in the Computer\Electronics field and Johhny5 is a Programmer.

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                          Quote: You still don't get it do you? you will never be able to understand the concept of GAMBLING because your not a gambler.
                          The concept of gambling is to reduce the odds sufficiently to enable you to win more than you lose.
                          Quote: By the way what are you tryig to accomplish with your statements? get us to stop playing the Lottery with our systems and software? or are you trying to convince yourself that they don't work.
                          I'm trying to participate in a discussion about lotteries. Isn't that the purpose of this forum? I read the rules, but I guess I missed the part where it said I had to agree with everything you said.
                          Quote: did it ever occur to you that if they REALLY didn't work we wouldn't be wasting our time using them?
                          Suppose a thousand people all flipped a coin at the same time. The law of probability says that half will flip heads, and half will flip tails. Suppose the 500 that flipped heads flipped again. Half of those would flip heads, and half would flip tails. Then the 250 that flipped heads flipped again. And so on. Eventually you would have one person who flipped 10 heads in a row, and a handful who flipped 8 or 9 in a row. A hundred thousand people then flock to the forums at http://www.flippingpost.com, and read the posts from the handful of people who flipped 8 or 9 heads in a row, and buy the book from the guy who flipped 10 in a row, because hey, they must know something. But they ignore the 990 people who didn't flip a lot of heads, even though the 990 used the exact same flipping method. And they can't understand why they can't flip 10 heads in a row, too, even though they do the same thing. But they keep flipping, because it must be possible if a handful of people can do it.



                          So, the reason you waste your time with systems is because you don't understand that SOMEONE has to win, but spending several thousand dollars on a lottery system isn't going to improve your chances any more than someone using common sense, because it's RANDOM!
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                            Quote: Originally posted by Fwup on February 12, 2004




                            So, the reason you waste your time with systems is because you don't understand that SOMEONE has to win, but spending several thousand dollars on a lottery system isn't going to improve your chances any more than someone using common sense, because it's RANDOM!






                            Using common sense to pick your numbers is a system and shouldn't cost several thousand dollars.  Making sure you don't play the same combination more than once per drawing is a system and using common sense.

                            RJOh


                             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                               
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                              fwup
                              So how does anyone using common sense choose their numbers to play if the draws are random?

                              WHATT