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computerized powerball,distant future?

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Posted: October 19, 2004, 2:46 am - IP Logged

with the way thin

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    Posted: October 19, 2004, 2:49 am - IP Logged

    i doubt it. the main reason why lotteries use RNGs for drawings is because they cannot afford to hold and televise live drawings. the MUSL and the big game group will always have enough money to hold a live drawing.

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      Posted: October 19, 2004, 9:47 am - IP Logged

        Oh man, I hope that never happens!

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        Posted: October 23, 2004, 11:48 am - IP Logged

        if it ever does happen then thats when I would stop playing

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          Posted: October 23, 2004, 12:50 pm - IP Logged

          I haven't been able to keep up with the lottery news lately but it may happen very soon to Powerball if they haven't shot it down already. Powerball was considering going computerized before the end of year. I got that info straight from the MO lottery office when I wrote them a letter about MO going computerized earlier this year. You can read the letter here. It is mentioned in the long letter on page two.

            http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/91512

          For all our sakes, I hope they reject the proposal.

          Later,

          Bryan  :)

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            Posted: October 23, 2004, 2:56 pm - IP Logged

            thats new information........

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              Posted: October 25, 2004, 4:54 am - IP Logged
              Quote: Originally posted by urbossmanpimpin on October 23, 2004


              if it ever does happen then thats when I would stop playing



               Same here.

              Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

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                Posted: October 26, 2004, 11:46 pm - IP Logged

                  I wrote to the MUSL about this, and this is what I got back:

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                We are indeed looking at it.  It is hardly "well know" that computerized lottery
                drawings compromise integrity.  There are different security issues involved,
                but they certainly can be made secure. 

                Although, we are looking at systems built by others, we built one ourselves, to
                get some experience in what is involved (it is now being used by a state
                lottery).  We built a system (we call Quantum Vision) that is a TRUE random
                number generator based on radioactive decay.  Though even most computer RNGs are
                pseudo-random,  they still pass statistical tests, but we wanted to see what it
                took to go all the way.  There are some unique features to our system too, but
                we are not likely to build our own.

                Any drawing can be made corrupt - having a ball machine is certainly no
                guarantee of integrity - as history shows. In the end, keeping a drawing secure
                depends on having the right procedures in place and having qualified independent
                parties testing the system (we used GLI for the system we built) and then having
                it secured and operated by independent audit firms - who put their reputation
                and financial (though certainly insured) business on the line.




                  Well, I guess it's only a matter of time before Powerball becomes computerized.  After that happens, Mega Millions is sure to follow.

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                  Posted: October 27, 2004, 12:13 am - IP Logged

                  powerball will never go random. they would lose so much sales if they did.

                  I've redone my website.  Go to www.dr-ew.com.  I kept a lot of the old stuff, and I've added some new stuff.  Look for more new stuff in the coming weeks.

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                    Posted: October 27, 2004, 12:42 am - IP Logged

                    good point,i do think if they went random it would be the end.......

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                      Posted: October 27, 2004, 1:21 am - IP Logged

                      ryanm,

                      Dumb question: What's the difference between a random number generator, a pseudo-random number generator, and a true random number generator? I'm not sure I understand all the fuss about RNGs. Anybody with a pocket calculator and a little imagination can come up with random numbers. A table of random numbers also works pretty well. Those are the things I use and they've always worked fine for me.

                      aye'

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                        Posted: October 27, 2004, 3:15 am - IP Logged
                        Quote: Originally posted by ayenowitall on October 27, 2004

                        ryanm,

                        Dumb question: What's the difference between a random number generator, a pseudo-random number generator, and a true random number generator? I'm not sure I understand all the fuss about RNGs. Anybody with a pocket calculator and a little imagination can come up with random numbers. A table of random numbers also works pretty well. Those are the things I use and they've always worked fine for me.

                        aye'








                        A random number generator is a computer that uses a complicated math algorithm, or atmospeheric noise, or whatever, to come up with random numbers.



                        Pseudo-random number generators is something we all have, it's our brain. Just come up with random numbers on your own. It's supposed to be the most random way of drawing numbers. But it's way too easy too scam.



                        And a true RNG, well that's a ball machine.



                        BTW, that's actually a very good question.

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                          Posted: October 27, 2004, 4:19 am - IP Logged

                          I find it ironic that they want to save 100 grand in costs per year by destroying the game in the eyes of players that make up the bulk of the low jackpot games. They also aren't making the game different to make larger pots just screwing it instead. Either the people at musl are stupid or they are waiting to get better jobs somewhere else.


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                            Posted: October 27, 2004, 11:17 am - IP Logged

                            according to mathmatical laws of probability

                            ............of 666 being called on xmas day..............in texas

                            and 911 being called in ny state on 911

                            id say its all computerized anyhow from the jump.

                            most people win basing their picks on patterns, not realizing the pattern is pre-prescribed , though they realize its a pattern, they dont understand or refuse to believe this

                            simply look at the first draw dates for each game in texas

                            then look at the numers which were drawn


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                              Posted: October 27, 2004, 11:22 am - IP Logged

                              ther is no such thing as a true random number generator

                              all number and letter generators are based on facts of arrangement, a  true random geneator would be a virus which would lock up your hard drive

                              the only true random generator would be homemade on a aslide rule.ooops!

                              i shouldnt have mentioned that!!!!!!!!!!!!!