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Posted: April 10, 2005, 12:19 pm - IP Logged
Quote: Originally posted by hypersoniq on April 10, 2005



well that bites... a matrix change means ALL previous data becomes irrelevant (IF you believe history is relevant... I am one that does)... gotta start from square one with everything. (pb red ball data will still count tho)

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..........

so, aug 29th is the end of the 5/53 world.... now we have a deadline.... get crunchin'!





hypersoniq that's probably one of the many reasons they change the games structure. From time to time. Since they receive all kind of complaints that the game is to easy to win because the jackpots didn't grow to astronimical porpotions for a couple months. what's worse is the lottery directors didn't respond corectly about this and should have reported that the few jackpots that were won in the last couple months were basically a fluke. People were fortunate to pick or receive the winning QP numbers to those games. And it wasen't the structure of the game that's at fault.  

Don't trash your hard work just yet. It could be a while until they make the changes.

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    hey,suppose all the drawing i see on tv,for pb is not live drawing?

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      Quote: Originally posted by ayenowitall on April 9, 2005



      Quote: Originally posted by ayenowitall on March 19, 2005




      http://www.lotterypost.com/news/109635.htm

      Maybe MUSL should create a game with astronomical odds that increase exponentially from draw to draw. That would virtually guarantee an ever increasing super-sized jackpot that would be highly unlikely to be hit. Certainly that would placate all the giant jackpot fans.







      JAG,

      It was just a mildly sarcastic joke when I made the above comments in another thread. Maybe some lottery organization should really look into starting up such a game.  If anyone could hit a billion dollar jackpot in a 300,000,000:1 game, I'm sure it would be you. Dig in and keep firing at 'em. You'll hit big someday.

      I suppose that for any given combination of odds and jackpot size, there will always be people willing to play. I just wonder how long it will take for people to start complaining once again that the PowerBall game is broken when the jackpot gets hit at under $146 million.

      Best of luck to you,

      aye'





      Aye

      Jackpot games are fun.  They're just plain fun.  What could be more exciting than playing for $1 billion?  $2 billion of course, but I'll have to wait 20 years for that! 

      I'm not banking on winning the lottery for my retirement.  I'm investing for that purpose.  Geez, what I wouldn't give though to pick up about 10 sportscars and a couple of mansions with my millions!

      Really though, am I going to win on just plain luck with odds of 120m:1?  No.  Someone will, but I'd be delusional to think it would be me, unless there's a code inherent to randomness itself that can be found.  So what's the harm in odds of 500m:1?  I'm still not going to win on sheer luck, and the code, if it exists, will still be waiting to be found out.

      So bring on the larger-than-life jackpots, I'll be here to solve the numbers games!

      As far as Powerball goes, that's such a wimpy odds increase.  It would be justice to see the new game get hit just as often as the current one has the last four months.

      Maybe putting $1 on the lottery is a lot like throwing $1 in a sewer drain, except it's more entertaining!

      JAG 

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        Quote: Originally posted by JAG331 on April 11, 2005



        Really though, am I going to win on just plain luck with odds of 120m:1?  No.  Someone will, but I'd be delusional to think it would be me, unless there's a code inherent to randomness itself that can be found. 






        Regardless of odds ...why couldn't it be you? All of the numbers on your ticket are in the drawing machine ready and able to be chosen and they might just be the ones that tumble down that chute!

        ... the lottery never fails to surprise!
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          I reckon it could be me, just as it will be someone, dventually.  Most PB and MM draws have no jackpot winner.  That's millions of losers every draw!  Then once in a while, about every 130 millionth ticket, one person wins.  You could spend $5 on every Powerball draw for the next 50 years (disregarding price/odds hikes), and still stand only a 1:4,602 chance of cashing in big time.

          These games need a system.  You need a strong system and good fortune to have any chance.  This is why I don't believe in QPs.

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            Quote: Originally posted by four4me on April 10, 2005



            Quote: Originally posted by hypersoniq on April 10, 2005



            well that bites... a matrix change means ALL previous data becomes irrelevant (IF you believe history is relevant... I am one that does)... gotta start from square one with everything. (pb red ball data will still count tho)

            grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..........

            so, aug 29th is the end of the 5/53 world.... now we have a deadline.... get crunchin'!





            hypersoniq that's probably one of the many reasons they change the games structure. From time to time. Since they receive all kind of complaints that the game is to easy to win because the jackpots didn't grow to astronimical porpotions for a couple months. what's worse is the lottery directors didn't respond corectly about this and should have reported that the few jackpots that were won in the last couple months were basically a fluke. People were fortunate to pick or receive the winning QP numbers to those games. And it wasen't the structure of the game that's at fault.  

            Don't trash your hard work just yet. It could be a while until they make the changes.




              Well, unfortunately, the main purpose of a lottery is to raise money for states, and if jackpots stay small, the money stays in people's wallets.
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               ryanm wrote: Well, unfortunately, the main purpose of a lottery is to raise money for states, and if jackpots stay small, the money stays in people's wallets.

              No joke really i wondered about that. I know quite well what the lottery is in place for besides generating revenue it was supposed to reduce our tax burden but that a joke too.

              my point was. just because people had a run of luck dosen't mean they will continue to have a run of luck winning the smaller jackpots. on the contrary it was a fluke a lucky occurance as is evedent by the fact that the pot is growing again. Just because a few pots were won in a relitive short time dosen't mean every pot will be won in the same fashion. The game is not broken or need fixin. We will continue to see the pots grow. Sure from time to time a smaller pot might be won... big deal. Everybody dosen't have to panic because of it.

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                  There isn't a fluke happening with Powerball. The number of possible players and odds don't match up to generate large jackpots. Same is true in Mega. While mega has broken 100 million that would end if CA joined and the game didn't change. Jackpots of 300+ million are a big windfall for states selling tickets for participating states. That's what the games are there for. To make money for the states selling tickets. As a side benefit those whom like large jackpots get a small chance at winning them.

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                    Quote: Originally posted by dvdiva on April 12, 2005


                    There isn't a fluke happening with Powerball. The number of possible players and odds don't match up to generate large jackpots. Same is true in Mega. While mega has broken 100 million that would end if CA joined and the game didn't change. Jackpots of 300+ million are a big windfall for states selling tickets for participating states. That's what the games are there for. To make money for the states selling tickets. As a side benefit those whom like large jackpots get a small chance at winning them.



                    you go ahead and believe whatever you want that's your proactive. Regardless of the amount of the jackpot somebody's going to win if they have the right numbers states have enough games to generate revenue most states sell more scratch offs then all the other games combined. States are not suffering because of mega or powerball. I'm sure you have heard the term if it ain't broke don't fix it. When California joins the can adjust the game anyway they want to suite their population. This will in no way affect other states. When lottery's change the odds and payout's on their games. It dventually leads to more changes. Now if the facts were mega and powerball were hit at the 10 and 20 million dollar level every other week for six months and the amount of people increased or decreased either way each week necessating a change then yea i think a change would be forthcoming. But that's not what's happening. A few people hit consecutive times in a game so everybody panics and says no way we need to change the game. That's not productive that's terminal. If i roll the dice and win ten times in a row does that mean the dice are defective. On the 11 throw i crap out. Then roll 10 more straight wins are the going to change the rules of the game I think not. People got lucky a few times in the powerball game it was a fluke
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                      four4me is correct.  As I have already stated in this post, last year the current Powerball odds produced 5 winners over $100million dollars and 2 of them were over $200million.  What he did not point out is the fact that adding the state of California would not reduce the jackpot size, in fact it would simply cause the jackpot to grow that much faster.  The only things that can reduce the jackpot sizes are 1) caps on the growth after a draw [I understand the current cap has never been broken]  2) the states taking a larger chunk of the money paid in by players and 3) lowering the odds.  When you have more people buying tickets the jackpots just rises faster as you see when the Powerball gets up near $100million.  It is not going to take less tickets to win the Powerball just because they were bought in a shorter period of time.  As for the last few Jackpots that were hit somewhat early, I sure do feel sorry for the poor guy who only won $25 million (jeez).  Longer odds mean fewer winners and thats a shame.  I would much rather see someone win $50-150million every 1-2 months than $100-200million every 3-4 months.  This change is bad ....

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                        thank's tony95 i'm glad you see things in the same manners as i do. it's really interesting how people react to dvents that are not predictable. The different state lottery's that have mega and powerball probably went through every different senerio about people winning the games at different levels. They probably had think tanks go through many days of banter about what if and how they might respond to various gaming situations of their games.

                        One of their biggest problems is the peoples reactions to different dvents. people who are satisfied with the games aren't complaining about he games. It's the people who aren't satisfied with the results that are complaining and causing the lottery directors to implement changes. Cronic complainers probably have caused more harm than good by causing/forcing the lottery's to make changes to and otherwise stable game structure. Then the regret the changes down the road because of additional complaints from people who aren't satisfied with the results of the changes. it's a problem with most americans many aren't satisfied with any government implements. regardless of the outcome. They just arn't satisfied with any changes good or bad. Evrybody seems to want things to be his or her own way and can't accept things as they are.

                        this last sentance not related to the gaming problem is directed to people who think powerball and mega million are the bread winners of their states revenue. quote Virginia lottery director

                        Kyle attributed the upward trend to brisk sales of scratch-off tickets

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                          Posted: April 15, 2005, 9:55 pm - IP Logged

                          August 29th is a Monday.  So the 31st will be the first new matrix drawing?

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                            good question jag - I just noticed that date also. usually they make the anouncement to take place for the drawing the rules change occurs on. What are people on sunday going to buy - reduced odds tickets. Or are there going to be no ticket sales on the 28th?

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                                Probably no ticket sales on 28th