Welcome Guest
Log In | Register )
You last visited December 7, 2016, 7:02 pm
All times shown are
Eastern Time (GMT-5:00)

WOW, TALK ABOUT ADDICTION: Woman stole $2.3M to buy lottery tickets

Topic closed. 33 replies. Last post 10 years ago by four4me.

Page 2 of 3
4.45
PrintE-mailLink
Avatar
NY
United States
Member #23835
October 16, 2005
3474 Posts
Offline
Posted: August 24, 2006, 2:23 am - IP Logged

YEOW!  $10 dollars a day?  That makes me feel better about my $10 a week habit.  Smiley

"Planty said investigators believe Donnelly may have won some small jackpots of $5,000 or even $25,000, but it was never enough to cover the amount she had stolen overall."

 

Oy!  So this means that a woman who spent over $2.3 million playing didn't win a big jackpot?  Not too encouraging for someone betting $500 to $1,000 a year.

What would you expect? Spending $2.3 million on the lottery pretty much guarantees losing half that amount, because that's how much the state typically takes before money goes into the prize pool. If only 50% of the ticket price goes towards prizes then statistically you should expect to win 50 cents for every dollar you play, and the more money you spend the more likely that your results will be statistically normal.  Even if she had spent the money on a game with low odds like NY lotto she would only have had about a 10% chance of winning. If she had spent it on megamillions she'd have had about  a 1.3% chance of winning. Anyone with sense spends a modest amount of money and hopes like hell they won't be statistically normal.

    dvdiva's avatar - 8ball

    United States
    Member #2338
    September 17, 2003
    2063 Posts
    Offline
    Posted: August 24, 2006, 9:17 am - IP Logged

    Well at least it's a good example to people who spend large amounts per drawing that it doesn't increase your odds, At least if she had bought art with the money the company could have gotten the money back.


      United States
      Member #379
      June 5, 2002
      11296 Posts
      Offline
      Posted: August 24, 2006, 9:47 am - IP Logged

      She reportedly concentrated on annuity-only scratch games. ANYBODY who plays them has a gambling problem. I wonder how much she blew on NY Lotto?

        luckieStarr's avatar - darven
        philadelphia,PA
        United States
        Member #27080
        November 26, 2005
        507 Posts
        Offline
        Posted: August 24, 2006, 11:10 am - IP Logged

        See, that's why Oprah still  signs her own checks...230...2300 in honor of allof that stolen money.

        Leaving  Keep It In until It Wins!

          four4me's avatar - gate1
          MD
          United States
          Member #1701
          June 18, 2003
          8361 Posts
          Online
          Posted: August 24, 2006, 11:37 am - IP Logged

          Something sounds fishy about this story. where did she find time to do her job if she was buying as much as 6000 dollars a day worth of tickets. what counter person wouldn't be suspicious of a person buying that many tickets every day or even once a week. Anyone with half a brain knows no body makes 42,000 a week in salary. i have a difficult enough time buying 20 bucks worth of tickets let alone more. Even if she gave the lottery terminal operator a list every day the operator would be spending the whole shift punching out numbers. If she was buying scratch offs every day the store would be sold out of tickets. The lottery might even be suspicious that a store like this would be selling that many tickets.

          if she was buying thousands of scratch off where did she find time to scratch off all of her purchases. She would be up night and day it takes about an hour to scratch off 200 tickets.

          Also it takes time to check pick 3/4 tickets especially if you have thousands of them to go through. Cash a ticket for more than 600 bucks don't you have to report income since they send you a tax form to file with your taxes.

          I would buy this story if they said she spent 600 a day buying tickets but 6 grand give me a break.

            TheGameGrl's avatar - character catafly.jpg
            A long and winding road
            United States
            Member #17084
            June 10, 2005
            4526 Posts
            Offline
            Posted: August 24, 2006, 6:18 pm - IP Logged

            Something sounds fishy about this story. where did she find time to do her job if she was buying as much as 6000 dollars a day worth of tickets. what counter person wouldn't be suspicious of a person buying that many tickets every day or even once a week. Anyone with half a brain knows no body makes 42,000 a week in salary. i have a difficult enough time buying 20 bucks worth of tickets let alone more. Even if she gave the lottery terminal operator a list every day the operator would be spending the whole shift punching out numbers. If she was buying scratch offs every day the store would be sold out of tickets. The lottery might even be suspicious that a store like this would be selling that many tickets.

            if she was buying thousands of scratch off where did she find time to scratch off all of her purchases. She would be up night and day it takes about an hour to scratch off 200 tickets.

            Also it takes time to check pick 3/4 tickets especially if you have thousands of them to go through. Cash a ticket for more than 600 bucks don't you have to report income since they send you a tax form to file with your taxes.

            I would buy this story if they said she spent 600 a day buying tickets but 6 grand give me a break.

            I agree that on the surface it would seem fishy. In this case the fish was caught in a small pond. ITs VERY easy to splurge on Pick 3/Pick4 match 6/ Powerball or MegaBall and instant games! Instant games have tickets that cost $20.00 a pop! I buy the story because Ive read how church book keepers steal money for years! ANd the church pardons them! WHy? Because to them its not their money, its the good lords.

            A physician office depends on a book keeper! The physician is skilled in medical areas NOT accounting! THus why its imparative to *trust* and audit your book keeper. Yes a physician office ( cardiac, brain or oncologist) make money hand over foot, so its conceivable to see such funds accumulate and dispense quite quickly. The woman was skilled at her job enough to know how to hide funds in accounts. She would have served ENRON well , but that is a whole other topic!

            I do think NOT all her thievery went to gambling.

            I feel guilty each week when I spend $10.00 on the lottery, so I cannot imagine if it was someone elses money how I could feel any less guilty! Perhaps its a matter of valueing hard earned money.

            ~~Is it true, Is it kind,Is it necessary. ~~~

             Thanks be to the giving numbers: 1621,912,119 02014

              justxploring's avatar - villiarna
              Wandering Aimlessly
              United States
              Member #25360
              November 5, 2005
              4461 Posts
              Offline
              Posted: August 24, 2006, 7:09 pm - IP Logged

              Could this be a bogus insanity defense? If she was caught stealing and it was because she resented the rich doctors, she won't get off with a slap on the wrist. If she BLAMES her "addiction" on a gambling problem, she might generate a lot of sympathy. Isn't that what people do these days...blame their crimes on someone or something besides their own greed, lust or hatred? If you kill someone for drugs, blame your abusive parents, the drug dealer who got you hooked or society for not accepting you.  If you molest a child, then blame the uncle or teacher who hurt you when you were young and cry in front of the camera. So why not say "The Lottery Made Me Do It?"

              Just a thought. 

                Avatar
                iowa
                United States
                Member #32899
                February 16, 2006
                46 Posts
                Offline
                Posted: August 24, 2006, 7:13 pm - IP Logged

                Maybe she still has a great deal of the money stashed somewhere and said she blew it all on the lottery so the authorities wouldn't be searching for it. Blowing all of it on the lottery is almost equivalent to saying it went up in smoke. Plus, instead of just being a thieving scoundrel she gets to attain an appearance of being a "victim" herself. I'm sure some people will feel sorry for her rather than despise her. It's a form of the "twinkie defense". Blame one of society's "ills" rather than accept responsibility for ones own actions. Poor woman isn't at fault, she just couldn't help herself. And before someone tries to poke holes in my supposition, just because she is ordered to pay it back doesn't mean she will if she has the money stashed somewhere. Live off the money and pay back what little you can while still providing yourself a living. I don't doubt she probably spent an incredible amount on the lottery, but $6,000 a day? Get real.

                  justxploring's avatar - villiarna
                  Wandering Aimlessly
                  United States
                  Member #25360
                  November 5, 2005
                  4461 Posts
                  Offline
                  Posted: August 24, 2006, 7:43 pm - IP Logged

                  Maybe she still has a great deal of the money stashed somewhere and said she blew it all on the lottery so the authorities wouldn't be searching for it. Blowing all of it on the lottery is almost equivalent to saying it went up in smoke. Plus, instead of just being a thieving scoundrel she gets to attain an appearance of being a "victim" herself. I'm sure some people will feel sorry for her rather than despise her. It's a form of the "twinkie defense". Blame one of society's "ills" rather than accept responsibility for ones own actions. Poor woman isn't at fault, she just couldn't help herself. And before someone tries to poke holes in my supposition, just because she is ordered to pay it back doesn't mean she will if she has the money stashed somewhere. Live off the money and pay back what little you can while still providing yourself a living. I don't doubt she probably spent an incredible amount on the lottery, but $6,000 a day? Get real.

                  Isn't this what I just posted?

                    Avatar
                    iowa
                    United States
                    Member #32899
                    February 16, 2006
                    46 Posts
                    Offline
                    Posted: August 24, 2006, 8:30 pm - IP Logged

                    We posted at virtually the same time, it just took me longer because I was eating chicken and dumpling soup while I was typing. Don't be paranoid, I wasn't copying you. Sheesh!!!

                      konane's avatar - wallace
                      Atlanta, GA
                      United States
                      Member #1265
                      March 13, 2003
                      3333 Posts
                      Offline
                      Posted: August 24, 2006, 9:18 pm - IP Logged

                      I've heard some people express the eroneous belief that if you bet and lose, then next game spend twice as much.  Yes they did say that strange as it sounds. Crazy

                      That may have been that person's strategy, along with being stuck on stupid for stealing.

                      Good luck to everyone!

                        weshar75's avatar - Lottery-042.jpg
                        Mcminnville, Oregon
                        United States
                        Member #3013
                        December 13, 2003
                        3051 Posts
                        Offline
                        Posted: August 24, 2006, 10:00 pm - IP Logged

                        I have seen a handful of people over my 13 years of playing the lottery play big on the lottery.  They were at special times in the year.  It was always during the tax return season and at the holidays mainly christmas.  I would be buying tickets and some one would come in and buy a book of scratch-its or if the jackpot was high on powerball $200 to $500 on powerball.  I guess I could see someone spending that much money on lottery if they bought books of scratch-its.  5 books of $5 or $10 tickets have to be over $1000.  Then 50-$10 powerball tickets that had powerplay on then is $500. Awe what the hell she is an ADDICT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  No one should spend that much money on the lottery.-weshar75

                          justxploring's avatar - villiarna
                          Wandering Aimlessly
                          United States
                          Member #25360
                          November 5, 2005
                          4461 Posts
                          Offline
                          Posted: August 25, 2006, 2:22 am - IP Logged

                          We posted at virtually the same time, it just took me longer because I was eating chicken and dumpling soup while I was typing. Don't be paranoid, I wasn't copying you. Sheesh!!!

                          Not accusing you of anything, mangeydog!  We were Type at the same time and I thought it was interesting that we both had the same idea too.  Who's paranoid? Hiding Behind Computer

                          I just type faster...nya, nya!

                            justxploring's avatar - villiarna
                            Wandering Aimlessly
                            United States
                            Member #25360
                            November 5, 2005
                            4461 Posts
                            Offline
                            Posted: August 25, 2006, 2:34 am - IP Logged

                            I've heard some people express the eroneous belief that if you bet and lose, then next game spend twice as much.  Yes they did say that strange as it sounds. Crazy

                             

                            Konane,

                            When I used to vacation in Vegas many years ago, people told me that all the time.  If I bet $5 on a Blackjack hand and lost I was told to bet $10 and then $20 and then $40.  I finally asked "So what happens when I run out of money?" I read on a site once that in life persistence can often lead to success but in gambling it will inevitably lead to bankruptcy!

                              Avatar
                              iowa
                              United States
                              Member #32899
                              February 16, 2006
                              46 Posts
                              Offline
                              Posted: August 25, 2006, 9:15 pm - IP Logged

                              Hah!!! Okay, I figured(wrongly) that you were being a stooge about it. My apologies jxp. I'm sure you do type faster than me. I was eating soup so I was typing one handed. Although that's no excuse, I do most things on the internet one-handed.