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Tenn. Lottery says duplicate numbers drawn were legit; can we be sure?

Topic closed. 21 replies. Last post 9 years ago by johnph77.

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United States
Member #4924
June 3, 2004
5912 Posts
Posted: September 1, 2007, 12:10 pm - IP Logged

While they are under the microscope now is the time to let them know you oppose them using computers to draw numbers.

Everyone is looking at them with skeptical eyes every drawing they have is being closely watched. If you stop putting pressure on them to switch back to ball drawings then it'll be the peoples fault.

There are people calling for an investigation. Let your voices be heard. Email the investigators and let them know what you think about it.

I agree, all the lottery players from Tn, should unite and let your local representatives know how you feel. Email the Governor and everyone else in the decision making process. If I lived in Tn, I would have already started passing petitions around, gathering signatures. They aren't going to change anything, if the residents of Tn doesn't hammer them hard. Do nothing and you will always be stuck with knowing, you could have possibly made a difference.

    Kingston, Ontario
    Member #46867
    October 5, 2006
    106 Posts
    Posted: September 1, 2007, 2:16 pm - IP Logged

    here's another instance

    Delaware while not on the same day it was from draw to draw. Del. is a RNG state

    Mon, Nov 22, 20046-1-33-1-38-5-5-98-7-1-0
    Tue, Nov 23, 20043-1-36-2-42-1-5-63-0-0-5

    If that's the case. play 313 or 940 or whatever the same numbers are. 

    "Together We're Making Good Things Happen,  Ontario's Lotteries...WE ALL WIN"

      four4me's avatar - gate1
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      June 18, 2003
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      Posted: September 1, 2007, 2:24 pm - IP Logged

      If that's the case. play 313 or 940 or whatever the same numbers are. 

      i am playing 904 and 409  in maryland

       313 has came out not long ago


      Mon, Aug 6, 2007MarylandMidday Pick 33-1-3
      Sat, Jul 21, 2007MarylandMidday Pick 33-1-3
      Fri, Jun 15, 2007MarylandPick 39-4-0
      Sat, Mar 10, 2007MarylandPick 30-9-4
      Mon, Mar 5, 2007MarylandMidday Pick 33-3-1

      Big John says. You don't hit the number. The number hits you!!!!

                     I'm not Big John, I'm Four4me, Big John's a friend.
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        Chief Bottle Washer
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        Posted: September 1, 2007, 2:30 pm - IP Logged

        I have created the full list of every time it has happened:


        (When midday and evening numbers are equal in a state on the same draw date.)


        Check the State Lottery Report Card
        What grade did your lottery earn?


        Sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings
        Help eliminate computerized drawings!

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          February 26, 2007
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          Posted: September 1, 2007, 2:51 pm - IP Logged

          I have created the full list of every time it has happened:


          (When midday and evening numbers are equal in a state on the same draw date.)

          Is it possible to designate which of those drawings is ball and which RNG?  I know I could look each up, but that's alot of work.  lol  Plus the list goes back to 2002, and the method could have changed between then and now.

            Columbia City, Indiana
            United States
            Member #2978
            December 9, 2003
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            Posted: September 1, 2007, 6:19 pm - IP Logged

              from the article:

              "Kym Gerlock, vice president of communications for the Tennessee Lottery, said the reappearance of number 940 was random chance.

            "It was not an error. It's rare, but it does happen," Gerlock said. "Each drawing is a totally separate instance and one is not related to another."


              And so the dance begins ...

              "It's rare, but it does happen." What she should have said is, "It's rare but it does happen here, and in other states that use easily-corruptible technology."

              I notice that many of you are posting examples of identical numbers that hit on consecutive days, but I have yet to see anyone who has uncovered an instance of the same number being drawn twice on the same day. I've been tracking the lotteries for many, many years, and I don't remember this happening in any state lottery (I was forced to edit this statement after seeing Todd's post in his new thread. See: "List of Each Time Midday and Evening Numbers Were Equal." Apparently, I was mistaken (*gasp*); they said my eyes would be the first to go).

              Incidentally, she forgot to mention how much integrity they have, and she neglected to assure the players that the highest security measures are in place. Now, the trick is to get people playing again. They'll pay a few winners for a while, but their payouts will begin to decline rapidly soon after their sales recover to a profitable level.

              I'll warn you now to watch for new Tennessee scratch-off games to be introduced at a blinding rate. Unless I'm mistaken, this should begin next month (they always seem to start in October, introducing more and more scratch-off games through the fall and winter). It's likely they'll introduce at least two new $20.00 scratch-offs, but the trend now is beginning to lean toward $50.00 and even $100.00 scratch-off games. Next, players will complain that non-existent prizes were advertised for these games, and Gerlock will make a statement saying that it was a simple oversight, that some programmer neglected to update their web site. Meanwhile, the people who spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on these games because the odds seem to favor a major win will have no hope of recovering their money.

              Oh, well; we're sorry for your loss, if that helps, even though it wasn't technically our fault.

              They're not going to give you a fair game if you keep playing one over which they have complete control. Would it kill you to save the money you would have spent until you've forced them to return to an honest game? That's the only weapon you have; it's your only hope of victory over a group of people who wield corruption and fraud as they would a sword and shield. RNG's, as they're used by state lotteries, are designed to "maximize profits" (read: "steal your money"). 

              "I know the game is crooked, but it's the only game in town." As long as Tennessee players keep this attitude, they have no one to blame but themselves when Tennessee's lottery becomes a clone of Indiana's. You've been warned; you know what's coming, and yet you continue to give them your support and your money, because you're afraid you might win.

            Come, Pinky; we must prepare for tomorrow night...


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              Posted: September 1, 2007, 7:30 pm - IP Logged

              If one draws a Pick 3 game twice a day seven days a week this should occur about once every three years, or slightly less. It's only the intense scrutiny the TN Lottery Commission is under right now that makes this an issue.

              Blessed Saint Leibowitz, keep 'em dreamin' down there..... 

              Next week's convention for Psychics and Prognosticators has been cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances.