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Hitting the jackpot: Rebecca Hargrove's winning strategy

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Posted: March 30, 2009, 10:59 am - IP Logged

Playing the lottery, or gambling period, is a chose, As long as its LEGAL

why not.

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    I know most people here don't like Rebecca-and I have probably said a few wry things myself- but you have to give credit where credit is due:  The lady knows marketing!  I know people are going to bash me hard for this next statement too, but I think she should get more money than she is getting for her salary.  Look at the UT lady Vols' coach's salary.   She's earned just as much as her I think.  Whe you do what no one else can do, you should get paid for it! Cool

    voir-vous dans mes reves!Cool

      truecritic's avatar - PirateTreasure
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      Maybe you should read the article again. Apparently, you don't have to buy lottery tickets, so you can see to it that she won't get a dime of your money. I'm skeptical that the lotteries couldn't get the same performance for less money, but her base income is very modest for a chief executive of a company that  nets a profit of several hundred million per year, and most of it is based on increasing that profit each year. When the governor reduces the state's annual budget, or at least holds it steady, maybe he should get a fat bonus, too, and will deserve more money than she does.

      I am against government competing with business in the way of high salaries.  If we can get a President for less, everything should proportionally be less down the hierarchy.

      You are right about the fact that it is not madatory to buy a lottery ticket - but the lure is too great.  Big Smile

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        I agree that her salary is within the norm for top lottery directors. She is the fore runner in lottery start ups. Her goal all along has been to make money above and beyond the start up expatiations for the states she worked for and she has accomplished that goal.

        I doubt that she will go to the Arkansas lottery as a director because they are trying to set a cap on what the director can earn at $500,000 i think. And i doubt she would accept that amount without stipulations if she took the job and made huge profits that there would be big bonuses for her and her staff.

        Big John says. You don't hit the number. The number hits you!!!!

                       I'm not Big John, I'm Four4me, Big John's a friend.
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          I'm sure she will read all these.Why has she been to 4 other states then released from them,one state she was fired.Hello everyone wake up,she is a crook and a very good one at that.listen to the video again,She releases all new tickets at the first of each month,to get retired peoples money,she brought out the new Million dollar ticket at the first of February,tax refund checks were filed after the first ....She wanted all of our tax refund money.Well for myself as long as she is in Tennessee I will not play again.I dont see how she can lay down at night and sleep for what she does.I guess I know the answer to my own question,better not  say it on here ,I'm more of a woman than she will ever be...

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            I am against government competing with business in the way of high salaries.  If we can get a President for less, everything should proportionally be less down the hierarchy.

            You are right about the fact that it is not madatory to buy a lottery ticket - but the lure is too great.  Big Smile

            I'm not sure what you mean about government competing against business, but if your skills can get you 100k from one employer or 250k from another, which job would you take? Nobody with the ability to start a state lottery and bring in a few hundred million in the first year is going to do it for 100 or 150k when those skills can earn them much more in the private sector.

            OTOH, the ability to get elected President may mean you could earn 10 to 50 times as much in the private sector, but even Bill Gates doesn't have the power or prestige that comes with being President. Realistically, anyone who is capable of being elected President could probably be had for a fraction of the current salary. John Kerry is worth about half a billion dollars and McCain is worth about 100 million (at least as long as they stay married), but they're still working hard for a bit unbder 200k plus benfits.

            That said, it sounds like you're behind the times on what the President gets paid. Currently it's 400k, plus a 50k, untaxed expense account. Then there's the free room and board, unlimited medical coverage, and travel perks . Later, there's the killer pension. For only 4 years on the job the current annual pension is 191k, plus reimbursement for staff and office expenses. Bush is now 62, and probably has a life expectancy of about 20 more years. That effectively made his earnings as President about 3 times the salary he was paid while in office.

              truecritic's avatar - PirateTreasure
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              I'm not sure what you mean about government competing against business, but if your skills can get you 100k from one employer or 250k from another, which job would you take? Nobody with the ability to start a state lottery and bring in a few hundred million in the first year is going to do it for 100 or 150k when those skills can earn them much more in the private sector.

              OTOH, the ability to get elected President may mean you could earn 10 to 50 times as much in the private sector, but even Bill Gates doesn't have the power or prestige that comes with being President. Realistically, anyone who is capable of being elected President could probably be had for a fraction of the current salary. John Kerry is worth about half a billion dollars and McCain is worth about 100 million (at least as long as they stay married), but they're still working hard for a bit unbder 200k plus benfits.

              That said, it sounds like you're behind the times on what the President gets paid. Currently it's 400k, plus a 50k, untaxed expense account. Then there's the free room and board, unlimited medical coverage, and travel perks . Later, there's the killer pension. For only 4 years on the job the current annual pension is 191k, plus reimbursement for staff and office expenses. Bush is now 62, and probably has a life expectancy of about 20 more years. That effectively made his earnings as President about 3 times the salary he was paid while in office.

              This is getting too much involved...I am up on what the President gets paid.  A salary of $400,000/yr.  I don't think ANY other government job should pay more than that.   In the order of importance, a lottery job is trivial in comparison.  Of course if the person has a choice to take a job that pays more, you take that job.  I just don't think any Government job should pay that much.  IMHO $100,000 is too much.

              We don't need a minimum wage - we need a maximum wage.

              However, as I said, this is getting too involved and a different venue would be better for a discussion.

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                Maybe you should read the article again. Apparently, you don't have to buy lottery tickets, so you can see to it that she won't get a dime of your money. I'm skeptical that the lotteries couldn't get the same performance for less money, but her base income is very modest for a chief executive of a company that  nets a profit of several hundred million per year, and most of it is based on increasing that profit each year. When the governor reduces the state's annual budget, or at least holds it steady, maybe he should get a fat bonus, too, and will deserve more money than she does.

                "I'm skeptical that the lotteries couldn't get the same performance for less money, but her base income is very modest for a chief executive of a company that nets a profit of several hundred million per year, and most of it is based on increasing that profit each year."

                Hmmmmm, you don't live in Georgia where Paul-Hargrove drove the Georgia Lottery into the ground with her highly expen$$$$$ive ads and ill conceived choice of games did NOT bring revenues up all the while she and her cadre receiving salaries and BONU$E$.  The Change Game was on top of the list as obvious greed-based in my opinion ... designed to siphon the last few pennies out of players pockets!!!  Her gig was up and sales were way down when she left.

                We now have a lottery director, Ms DeFrancisco who knows how to run an immensely successful lottery on far less salary and bonuses.  Under her leadership the Georgia Lottery is the best run lottery in the nation.

                Contrast between the two is that Paul-Hargrove was a taker from players giving nothing back except lots of expensive PR, wouldn't listen to what players want.  Tennessee players does that ring a bell, her way or the highway???

                Ms DeFrancisco on the other hand has implemented the Player's Club which mails out buy one get one free ticket offers, she has ongoing contests and bonus buys on tickets.  Ms DeFrancisco gives back to players which was rare as hens teeth for Paul-Hargrove.

                Ms DeFrancisco is worth her weight in gold as a lottery director and has outperformed circles around anything Paul-Hargrove ever dreamed of in Georgia.  KY Floyd you'd have to have experienced both directors to realize the difference between night and bright daylight we have now in the Georgia Lottery.

                Good luck to everyone!

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                  Like I said before and many times to the lottery players of Tennessee,Mrs.De of Georgia needs to run all states Lottery....The whole Nation Lottery systems,,,she gives back to the people.And this person of Tennessee drains us dry.

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                    "I'm skeptical that the lotteries couldn't get the same performance for less money, but her base income is very modest for a chief executive of a company that nets a profit of several hundred million per year, and most of it is based on increasing that profit each year."

                    Hmmmmm, you don't live in Georgia where Paul-Hargrove drove the Georgia Lottery into the ground with her highly expen$$$$$ive ads and ill conceived choice of games did NOT bring revenues up all the while she and her cadre receiving salaries and BONU$E$.  The Change Game was on top of the list as obvious greed-based in my opinion ... designed to siphon the last few pennies out of players pockets!!!  Her gig was up and sales were way down when she left.

                    We now have a lottery director, Ms DeFrancisco who knows how to run an immensely successful lottery on far less salary and bonuses.  Under her leadership the Georgia Lottery is the best run lottery in the nation.

                    Contrast between the two is that Paul-Hargrove was a taker from players giving nothing back except lots of expensive PR, wouldn't listen to what players want.  Tennessee players does that ring a bell, her way or the highway???

                    Ms DeFrancisco on the other hand has implemented the Player's Club which mails out buy one get one free ticket offers, she has ongoing contests and bonus buys on tickets.  Ms DeFrancisco gives back to players which was rare as hens teeth for Paul-Hargrove.

                    Ms DeFrancisco is worth her weight in gold as a lottery director and has outperformed circles around anything Paul-Hargrove ever dreamed of in Georgia.  KY Floyd you'd have to have experienced both directors to realize the difference between night and bright daylight we have now in the Georgia Lottery.

                    "The Change Game was on top of the list as obvious greed-based in myopinion ... designed to siphon the last few pennies out of playerspockets"

                    And? That's what the lottery is designed to do. If players don't make sensible choices, whose fault is it?

                    "Her gig was up and sales were way down when she left."

                    Sounds like a good reason for people in a position that's responsible for the success (or failure) of a business to have their salary structured in a way that rewards them for sucess, but pays more modestly for mediocre performance.

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                      True to form, I noticed that you did not use the generic ones chosen by LP.

                      Great avatar KY Floyd! 

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                        I live in Florida ,was here when mrs hargrove (paul) started the lottery here it maybe all in my mind but when she was here we had a lottery that you could win . The lottery has changed so much since she has left until its not fun to play anymore.She earns the money she gets to run these lotto games, never applied for a job ; ALWAYS RECRUITED. HOPE TO HAVE HER GIVE ME THAT CHECK ONE DAY  SOON  SOON SOON RITE SOONHurray!

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                          all the box office receipts across the country were about $9 billion. Music: $20 billion. Salty snacks, pretzels, chips, all that stuff ... about $40 billion. Fifty-five billion dollars of lottery tickets were sold -- $55 billion!"

                           

                          Tobacco sales which are habitual and rake in billions in tax revenue. They should have mentioned that.

                          Consumers know what they want to buy. This is still a free country yet for the most part.

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                            Posted: April 1, 2009, 11:20 pm - IP Logged

                            Playing the lottery, or gambling period, is a chose, As long as its LEGAL

                            why not.

                            cause we can TAX anytng!

                            why D U thank we can't $

                            tax U breath????????????

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                            translation:

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                            yoe pur get PUURER>>>>

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                              Posted: April 2, 2009, 1:51 am - IP Logged

                              True to form, I noticed that you did not use the generic ones chosen by LP.

                              Great avatar KY Floyd! 

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                              Shh! It's a stealth avatar I'm testing for the defense department.