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Lottery heartbreak: Florida man says he lost $500,000 ticket

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Posted: August 3, 2009, 11:55 pm - IP Logged

Cut the guy some slack.   He's a 69 year old retired garbage man for goodness sake.  The lottery should be prepared to deal with the portion of their customer base that don't fully grasp the rules of collecting the prizes.

In my opinion, an honest lottery corporation would wait until the scratch ticket expires, and if not cashed in they can pay the claim based on the validation slip. 

The person who finds the scratch ticket is the new owner entitled to cash it.  I would hope the lottery would inform this person there is a problem with ownership and allow the parties to split the prize or take it to court.  This part is a fantasy day dream, sorry. 

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    Posted: August 4, 2009, 12:13 am - IP Logged

    "The person who finds the scratch ticket is the new owner entitled to cash it. I would hope the lottery would inform this person there is a problemwith ownership and allow the parties to split the prize or take it tocourt.  This part is a fantasy day dream, sorry."

    BobP, I don't think it is necessarily true that whoever finds the ticket will be the new owner. Or it won't work in this case.

    Mr. Tolentino has already reported the ticket missing to the lottery officials and the police. He has the confirmation ticket, the clerk who sold him the ticket, the media is all over this story and I am sure it was all caught on tape. And based on this recent news story: http://www.lotterypost.com/news/197606 finding a winning ticket and cashing it in, can get you in a lot of trouble. Especially, since it has been reported missing.

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      Posted: August 4, 2009, 3:49 am - IP Logged

      He claims that life is tough for him right now. "I owe everybody" he says, supposedly, his only income is Social Security and he's sportin' $20 scratch off tickets! What the...

      The way I see it is, ya still have to be smarter than that lottery ticket that you buy!!!!

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        Posted: August 4, 2009, 4:35 am - IP Logged

        Man that sucks, I hate to misplace anything.  Hopefully he will get something

        out of it, being that he has a confirmation ticket.

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          Posted: August 4, 2009, 8:57 am - IP Logged

          Let's suppose this guy lost the ticket getting into his car and drives away. Five minutes later you pull into the spot and pick up the ticket. Would you turn it in? Or would you cash it? It clearly states it a bearer instrument, so he who has it owns it

           

          What about finding a ticket that had not been checked? Clearly someone else bought it, but lost it. Why is the fact that he checked it any different?

           

          Personally, I would give it back and hope that karma catches up with me later.

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            Posted: August 4, 2009, 9:36 am - IP Logged

            "The person who finds the scratch ticket is the new owner entitled to cash it. I would hope the lottery would inform this person there is a problemwith ownership and allow the parties to split the prize or take it tocourt.  This part is a fantasy day dream, sorry."

            BobP, I don't think it is necessarily true that whoever finds the ticket will be the new owner. Or it won't work in this case.

            Mr. Tolentino has already reported the ticket missing to the lottery officials and the police. He has the confirmation ticket, the clerk who sold him the ticket, the media is all over this story and I am sure it was all caught on tape. And based on this recent news story: http://www.lotterypost.com/news/197606 finding a winning ticket and cashing it in, can get you in a lot of trouble. Especially, since it has been reported missing.

            I think you're right.  There is a lot of precedent for people who lose a lottery ticket, but there is some good proof that they own it.  The person finding the ticket in that case does not get to keep the money.

            Here's a great example from a very recent news story:

            http://www.lotterypost.com/news/197606

             

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              Posted: August 4, 2009, 9:41 am - IP Logged

              His back pocket "mixed with some other papers" was the worst way of transporting the ticket.  All men know (or should know) that their back pocket is the most vulnerable pocket for pickpocketing and for papers to slip out.  If he was that careless with the ticket then he would probably have been that careless with his winnings.

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                Posted: August 4, 2009, 10:15 am - IP Logged

                He claims that life is tough for him right now. "I owe everybody" he says, supposedly, his only income is Social Security and he's sportin' $20 scratch off tickets! What the...

                The way I see it is, ya still have to be smarter than that lottery ticket that you buy!!!!

                Green laugh I dont know why but this sounds kinda fishy, if ive won that much. I would get my a-ss home and have a beer, then SIGN it,  have trust worthy friends to go with me and claim my prize!

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                  Green laugh I dont know why but this sounds kinda fishy, if ive won that much. I would get my a-ss home and have a beer, then SIGN it,  have trust worthy friends to go with me and claim my prize!

                  By trust worthy friends do you mean friends who wouldn't ask you to share your winnings with them?Green laugh

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                    Posted: August 4, 2009, 12:56 pm - IP Logged

                    no WAY would I put it in my pocket!!

                     

                    Heck even Charlie Applebee knows better:

                     

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                      Posted: August 4, 2009, 1:37 pm - IP Logged

                      I think you're right.  There is a lot of precedent for people who lose a lottery ticket, but there is some good proof that they own it.  The person finding the ticket in that case does not get to keep the money.

                      Here's a great example from a very recent news story:

                      http://www.lotterypost.com/news/197606

                      That's true that the UKcourts ruled that "finders/keepers" didn't apply in that case. Although I don't know the specifics of the law in the UK.  Also wedon't know how the lottery is run there.   Also the specifics from the article from the UK case is kinda vague.   Do they have all of thelegal fine print on the back of the ticket there like we do here in theUS?  Is the claim process in the UK different the the claim processhere in the states?

                      It also doesn't explain why the lottery continues to print the fineprint that the ticket is a bearer instrument UNTIL SIGNED.  If alottery ticket belongs to the purchaser why does the lottery require asignature?   Why does the lottery here in the states say they arebearer instruments until signed? 

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                        Posted: August 4, 2009, 2:00 pm - IP Logged

                        I know the gentleman has the confirmation ticket but why does the story include so much information about where he bought the scratch off?  Seems like I remember reading a story on here recently that said part of claiming a ticket could include identifying the place of purchase.  Whoever found the ticket now has that information.

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                          Posted: August 4, 2009, 2:16 pm - IP Logged

                          His back pocket "mixed with some other papers" was the worst way of transporting the ticket.  All men know (or should know) that their back pocket is the most vulnerable pocket for pickpocketing and for papers to slip out.  If he was that careless with the ticket then he would probably have been that careless with his winnings.

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                            Posted: August 4, 2009, 2:20 pm - IP Logged

                            While I do feel sympathy for the guy in this story and sincerely hope he does get paid, but as has been said here, putting something worth 500 large in a back pocket and standing in a line is really not too swift.

                            I wouyld think most people with such a ticket would keep it in sight and check that it was still there about every 15 seconds, no?

                            Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                            Lep

                            There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                              Posted: August 4, 2009, 2:28 pm - IP Logged

                              Ok.  I'm not saying that this guy is or is not lying about the story, but do we all remember who Elecia Battle was?  If not, look her up.  Her story is pretty similar to this guy's.

                              Until fully sorted out I'll also wonder. 

                              Agree with Rick G and Perdue he was very careless handling a ticket worth that much.  I'd be considering a zip lock bag taped to my body for a ticket worth a half mil. Green laugh

                              Good luck to everyone!