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'Mind reader' lottery stunt debunked by British paper

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Posted: September 13, 2009, 11:16 am - IP Logged

At the end of the day people there is no way the national lottery in the UK would allow DB to show people how to win, he did try to predict before and offered this suggestion to camelot which they didn't allow him to a while back, so why would they allow him to do this so called exciting prediction now?


Camelot are not going to be that stupid to allow this guy to sink the UK lottery to the ground, as the UK lottery would be no more as there would be so many people that would be winning big time on every single lottery draw, and the lottery wouldn't have enough to share around to the many causes, it donates to


DB to me what he is showing here is that if you believe in your mind that you are going to win and believe in yourself then you will win, its all about beliefs and prayers and nothing to do with maths or trying to suss out the least numbers used in a while

There is some validity to crowd choices - really has nothing to do with positive belief in yourself.

An example that has been done over and over, is the favorite at the Thoroughbred race tracks.  The crowd can consistently, year-in, year-out pick 33% of the winners as favorites.

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    At the end of the day people there is no way the national lottery in the UK would allow DB to show people how to win, he did try to predict before and offered this suggestion to camelot which they didn't allow him to a while back, so why would they allow him to do this so called exciting prediction now?


    Camelot are not going to be that stupid to allow this guy to sink the UK lottery to the ground, as the UK lottery would be no more as there would be so many people that would be winning big time on every single lottery draw, and the lottery wouldn't have enough to share around to the many causes, it donates to


    DB to me what he is showing here is that if you believe in your mind that you are going to win and believe in yourself then you will win, its all about beliefs and prayers and nothing to do with maths or trying to suss out the least numbers used in a while

    If DB could really show anyone how to win a lottery there would be no way the national lottery in the UK or anywhere else could stop him.  After all there are hundreds of ads on the Internet of people claiming to be able to do the same thing for a fee.

     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
       
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      The Lotto "miracle" performed by telly illusionist Derren Brown left millions mystified — but today a British newspaper revealed how he might have done it.

      The Sun reckoned the slick magician used a "split screen" technique to make it look like he had correctly predicted the six winning numbers in the midweek National Lottery draw.

      Their conclusion came after we called in experts who analysed footage of Derren's Wednesday night show — broadcast on Channel 4 at the same time as the draw was made on BBC1.

      They believe the C4 screen was split in two — with the left side being a still image of the studio, containing a stand bearing Derren's "lottery balls," and the right side a live feed of the illusionist with a TV showing the Lotto draw.

      One expert said, "This meant a member of the crew could write the numbers on the C4 studio balls as they were read out live on the BBC broadcast, without being seen by the C4 audience." Had Derren walked from one side of the set to the other, he would have "disappeared" behind the still image.

      The expert said: "Once the draw was over, and the crew had written the numbers on the balls, the still image could be removed and Derren could cross the studio and show the balls to the audience."

      Evidence includes a few seconds of the C4 show in which one half of the screen is static while a hand-held camera on Derren is slightly shaky.

      Derren, 38, claimed he chose "his" numbers before the draw but was banned from revealing them by Lotto chiefs.

      He has promised to reveal secrets behind the trick on television tonight. But fellow magician Paul Daniels said Derren would only give "gobbledegook" explanations.

      Paul claimed there were 99 ways to perform the illusion, but added, "I'll never give away another professional's secrets."

      Derren's show was watched by just over three million viewers — more than half a million more than the number who tuned into the actual draw.

      Bursting with a Lotto pride ... Derren Brown shows identical lines.(Click for full-size; opens in new window)Bursting with a Lotto pride ... Derren Brown shows identical lines.

      1. Derren stands over 'his' lottery balls in the C4 studio before, our experts reckon, the left side of screen was cloaked by still image.(Click for full-size; opens in new window)1. Derren stands over 'his' lottery balls in the C4 studio before, our experts reckon, the left side of screen was cloaked by still image.

      2. The illusionist watches the start of BBC1's lottery show. Now the left side of C4 screen is thought to be a still image of the studio.(Click for full-size; opens in new window)2. The illusionist watches the start of BBC1's lottery show. Now the left side of C4 screen is thought to be a still image of the studio.

      3. Tension mounts as the winning numbers are chosen on Beeb. Derren watches in anticipation as the left of screen stays static.(Click for full-size; opens in new window)3. Tension mounts as the winning numbers are chosen on Beeb. Derren watches in anticipation as the left of screen stays static.

      4. Now he moves across the set, back to the ball stand on a live shot with the static screen removed. Hey presto, the numbers match.(Click for full-size; opens in new window)4. Now he moves across the set, back to the ball stand on a live shot with the static screen removed. Hey presto, the numbers match.

      The numbers were predicted by me too and i have predicted them 11-23-35 was correct but instead of 2 i predicted 7 and instead of 15 i predicted 16(Bonus ball) I predicted all 7 numbers, then i predicted 37 or 46 instead of 39 and 30 instead of 28. As earlier mentioned i am the one to predict in just 10 miuntes i concluded the numbers and i am aware of the drift and it does not take too many combinations to get one othem perfect.

      to understand use a block with 6 numbers in a row and next row the other 6 till all 49 are marked and notice no.2 and 7 are beside each other, no 39 and 46 again besides each other in the same diagonal and same direction as 2 and 7 and 28-30 in the same row facing each other...

      Honest there is just one person on earth who know how to predict numbers and that is me who has aided over 1000 to win in lottery and keno last 18 years.. the toal winnings i can doucment is over 780 million DKK.  shared by 1000s world over

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        Posted: September 14, 2009, 1:26 pm - IP Logged

        skypekaitas6..No one on earth can predict ping pong balls so get over yourself..NO ONE CAN PREDICT PING PONG BALLS..Did you hear me!!

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          skypekaitas6..No one on earth can predict ping pong balls so get over yourself..NO ONE CAN PREDICT PING PONG BALLS..Did you hear me!!

          Tiggs to predict 7 numbers is more difficult than to predict 6 and i have already predicted them i mentioned the numbers way back in advace, i am sorry you are not having the knowledge to note my numbers are 100% accurate and besides when one plays 32 blocks for 32 pounds this is all my numbers would cost to play them in uk and the prize amount was 2.5million pounds so what i predicted is better than the world renowned magic and magicians.. Do you know on Friday in Denmark two magicians were to predict DK lotto numbers and answer today on monday but i did it on satarday with no magic.

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            You must be keeping your winnings a secret cause I've never heard of you and for that matter no one else has either..You are like everyone else a loser till LUCK falls your way some day,if it does..No you have never predicted any winning lotto numbers..No one can do that..Case cloesd..

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              PS..I checked your predictions on your proflie and you have none..NONE..What's that all about?..

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                PS..I checked your predictions on your proflie and you have none..NONE..What's that all about?..

                sir the predictions are not on the profile but this topic is in two parts.. you are on the part after the draw.. but Todd started a blogg before wednesday and beroe the draw i cant see you there but there i ahve predicted on that blog my numbers before the draw and they are 100% accurate with 32 blocks not in one block and every block has 3 numbers or more correct if you open them. matter clsoed

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                  I don't know what "blocks" are I just know what numbers are..I see they are looking for a 5 million dollar winner in the UK..is that you?..When I see you hit a lottery ticket with ALL the numbers on it and not "blocks" I'll believe you until then you are a loser like the rest of us until LUCK comes our way if it ever does..

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                    Posted: September 24, 2009, 11:05 pm - IP Logged

                    If he can pick'em, why didn't he play'em

                    He picked five of the numbers but, It was an Iillision!

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