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Man wins Fla. Lottery jackpot for 7th time

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Posted: August 18, 2010, 10:34 pm - IP Logged

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    "Yes your  absolutely  correct a SYSTEM is only a tool and not everyone has the  know how/skill  too use them"

    If something was really a working system then everybody who followed the instructions correctly should experience similar results. Why is it that people who think systems work seem to recognize that they produce results very similar to people choosing numbers by any other method, including random selction, and think it's how people use the sytem instead of what the sytem actually does?

    There is one clear advantage to having your system allow individual players to choose different numbers. If you get 1000 players to play only 50 of the 1000 P3 numbers there's only a 1 in 20 chance you'll get a winner to brag about. Give them some choices that result in playing 200 of the numbers and you've got a 1 in 5 chance of good publicity to sell your system. That won't do squat to help individual players, but it sure would help the guy marketing a system. And, afterall, that's the guy who really makes money from a system.

    "I think this guy has a g0od chance at making a tidy sum on this venture.  He's gotten a lot publicity from winning so many times"

    The trick to making money by selling "systems" isn't in having a system that's useful. The trick is to get favorable publicity to help market your system. People who have won a significant prize have a huge edge in selling any advice they want, because people look at the person's prize, not what the system has to offer.  Any method you use to choose numbers will result in winning in proportion to the odds of the game and how many tickets you buy. Groups buy more tickets, so they win more often. If somebody selling a system can get 1000 people to play pick 3 on a daily basis then people using that system should 50 times in 50days, as an average, regardless of what the system actually does. If you can publicize those wins you can get more suckers players to fork over money for your system, and you get even mor winners to brag about. Meanwhile, any 1000 players choosing their numbers randomly will win just as often, but none of them will be running around claiming they won by using a system.

    Even with thousands and thousands of people using systems from Howard and Player and buying thousands of tickets each, how often have any of them won a real jackpot? If the 2 of them can claim a total of 25,000 customers who have played $2000 each on PB or MM that would be a total of 50 million plays. In games with odds of 1 in 150 to 175 million simple probability means there would be a 1 in 3 to 1 in 3.5 chance that one of them should have won. If these systems work, where are all the winners we should expect from even a modest edge over the usual odds?

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      Posted: August 19, 2010, 1:44 am - IP Logged

      I read the article you linked in your reply and didn't experience an "Ah Hah" moment.  I guess when two people view the same information you have two different experiences.  When its come to lotteries, the only experiences that count are the ones that include winning a lottery jackpot.

      The "Ah hah" moment should have come when what you were reading described why you think repeating combinations is an indication that some combinations are more likely.

      Ignoring 2/29 there are 365 possible birthdays, but it only takes a group of 23 people for the chances that 2 of them have the same birthday to reach 50%. With 57 people there's a 99% chance that two of them share a birthday.The chances that any one person has the same birthday as any other specific person is only 1 in 365 (again, ignoring 2/29), but there's a 1 in 22/365 chance that person1 shares a birthday with one of the 22 other people. If that doesn't result in a match person 2 has a 1 in 21/365 chance of sharing a birthday with one of the remaining 21 people, person 3 has a 1 in 20/365 chance, and so on. All those small chances add up to a 1 in 2 chance of a shared birthday.

      Repeating lottery combinations are no different. For a 5/39 matrix the 2nd drawing results in a 1 in 575,757 chance of a repeat. Assuming there's not a repeat drawing 3 has 2 chances to match a previous drawing, so 2/575,757. Continuing we have chances of 3/575,757, 4/575,757, 5/575,757 and so on, until after 5757 drawing we've used 0.1% of the combinations and the next drawing has a 5,757/575,757 chance of repeating a previous combination. Even though we've still only got a 1 in 1000 chance of a match on the next drawing all of those small chances add up to a much more significant chance. The reality is that  long before a significant percentage of the combinations have been used the chances of repeating combinations becomes very likely. The repeats don't happen because some combinations are more likely to be drawn, it happens because repeats are probable.

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        A friend of mine just shared Lustig's $40 booklet. The first 5 or 6 pages are devoted to title, contents and dedications. The rest of the pages are typed in CAPS with a lot of free space. The whole thing could have fit on 3 regular typed pages. He states he NEVER changes the numbers on his cards (so if he hit a 4 out of 5 on Fantasy he will not change numbers?) The odds of hitting those same numbers are astronomical. Why play them again? His system? he uses 10 filled out cards (for what game?) and puts sequential numbers on the back of each card and then rotates cards after winning or losing. He starts out again with $100.

        Pick ANY NUMBERS he states with no explanation. He also advises MAILING your losing scratch off tickets to Lottery Headquarters for second chance drawings. Entering second chance drawings on line makes more sense to me where you have a record of your tickets. He goes on in a few more pages to describe what you can to check numbers - that information is available for free on the Florida Lottery website. Like check the numbers on your cards to make sure they did not win a jackpot before. Hello? On scatch offs he suggests buying a full book so you have a chance of winning the high prize in the full book. He cautions using the Extra Play for a buck, example illustrated: if you buy 30 tickets and lose, it only cost you $30 - if you bought 30 tickets with the Extra Play and lost, it would cost you $60 (I never knew that) But if you win with the Extra, it was worth the cost he explains.

        The funniest thing I read was his advice about having to stand in a long line to buy tickets, he says- buy them in the morning or when nobody is around. GREAT INFO! Plus there is a numerical error when he calculates buying more tickets from winning tickets.

        He did win a BIG Mega Money pot yearsago and I congratulate him for that. He mentions winnig GRAND prizes and many other prizes. What were they, besides a couple of split Fantasy's, a scratch off, the Meag Money and two trips? I would like to know how much in total prize money he won over the years. And truthfully say how much money he spent over the years to win what he did.

        People win millions and millions using quick picks. He never mentions quick picks in his booklet. There's a lot left out. In my opinion he is a promoter, promoting himself - selling $40 booklets - maybe trying to be a guest on talk shows - appearances.

        I learned absolutely nothing from his booklet, and my friend learned how to quickly lose $40. I wishI knew how to put this on Google, so people can read about the great system and save the $40. Thanks for the long read.

        So he's playing 10 cards for $100 each time?

        Why mail the losing scratch-offs instead of submitting them online? Does that increase your chances?

        Most times I wheel numbers I end up with a set that's had a 4 of 5 win at some point. Then I think about the odds of those numbers coming in again, get discouraged and end buying a qp.

        "...a chance to push everything aside, the circumstances that've controlled our lives, and do it our way now. Good, bad or otherwise. You'll maybe get lost in it, tied up in it a little bit, but if you work your way through that the real you shows up, I think. Maybe what's at your core deep down, maybe that comes out. Maybe that's what it's about." Mike Pace 


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          Posted: August 19, 2010, 10:19 am - IP Logged

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          A lot  of  players  for and against  system play fail  too realise that strategies,software and  systems are nothing  more than  TOOLS just like you said none of them can guarantee the same results or  that you will hit the numbers it's not  the system at work here it's the individual making  the decisions on how they  interpret  the data in order too  get  the numbers.I hit the cash 3 straight several times using P34LOTTO other players that have the same program  in some cases longer then  I have weren't able too produce any hits using it like  I did.I know players that have won money using some of Steve Player systems while others that have the same system have  not so this goes too show  you that there is no MAGIC Bullet that will help you hit the numbers pretty much any method out there is capable of hitting the numbers  even  tossing a bunch of numbered ping pong  balls in a drier or using a lottery  ball shaker  pen these 2 methods have actually won jackpots for people.Would  I ever try this??  well I did and guess what it  didn't work I tried both for  a month one  player  said it took several years of using the shaker  pen but that's still no guarantee and I wouldn't wanna waste  my time.

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            Posted: August 19, 2010, 12:58 pm - IP Logged

            That does it, I'm going to write my own book about winning the lottery.

            My methods haven't won any big jackpots yet but when they do I'll already have the book written. (Pretty smart, eh?)

            Some of my methods could be considered somewhat unconventional and maybe a little unorthodox but if they work, what the hell?

            I'll give you one little tease from the book:

             

            "Some of my biggest wins have come when writing down numbers that came to me while in a drunken stupor while my wife was screaming about something or another and beating me with a broom."

             

            You'll have to wait for the book to get the rest.

            Can't wait for the book rdgrnr!!

             

            ;-)

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              This thread did get a lot of players thinking. 

              I wonder if those British college professors that won a 6/49 lottery a couple of years ago after playing it for 5 years could have parlayed their system into a book.  Their system was to play all the numbers every drawing and shuffle them around, that way every drawings there was the possibility of a winner since every number in the winning combination were among the ones you played and eventually you would shuffle them for a win.

               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                 
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                This thread did get a lot of players thinking. 

                I wonder if those British college professors that won a 6/49 lottery a couple of years ago after playing it for 5 years could have parlayed their system into a book.  Their system was to play all the numbers every drawing and shuffle them around, that way every drawings there was the possibility of a winner since every number in the winning combination were among the ones you played and eventually you would shuffle them for a win.

                This is how I play for my pool at work. It's still a bugger to get them on the same line, but at least all the numbers are in play.

                CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN

                A DOLLAR AND A DREAM (OR $2)

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                  This is how I play for my pool at work. It's still a bugger to get them on the same line, but at least all the numbers are in play.

                  Nine lines are all you need with a 6/49 game and I came close some years back with 10 lines in Ohio Super Lotto when I matched 5/6 for $1500.  Now we have Classic Lotto(6/49) but the jackpot starts at $1M and only climbs $100K each drawing so I prefer to play MM and PB which takes a lot more lines to include all the numbers.  I usually play 10-20 lines and if I get lucky I'll get a 0+1 to 2+1 and maybe once every two year a 4+0 or a 3+1.

                   * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                     
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                    Posted: August 19, 2010, 5:42 pm - IP Logged

                    So you  acutally used a system too win $1500 that's great, but  wait  systems  don't really  work  so how did you really win  that money???

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                      Posted: August 19, 2010, 6:07 pm - IP Logged

                      So you  acutally used a system too win $1500 that's great, but  wait  systems  don't really  work  so how did you really win  that money???

                      After improving the system (I thought), I never repeated it again so it might have been luck.  But since the 6/49 game pay less now, I don't play it that often.  The Ohio C.L. is getting to $7M so if it's not won in the next few drawings, I might start putting $10 a draw on it for a while.

                       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                         
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                        Posted: August 19, 2010, 6:56 pm - IP Logged

                        Do you use your own  software or  excel application?? I'm currently working  on a strategy too use with  Gail Howards NEW Full Wheel  Filter Generator I figured  out which are  the best  filters too use now I just gotta improve my number selection  strategy without  that the  program is  useless cause I won't have  the  winning numbers  trapped in my group selection

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                          Posted: August 19, 2010, 9:02 pm - IP Logged

                          I always use my own software and I'm constantly adding features I think will improve it.

                           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                             
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                            Posted: August 19, 2010, 11:42 pm - IP Logged

                            Wow. Good for him. I just want to hit once!

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                              Posted: August 21, 2010, 5:01 pm - IP Logged

                              James Peterson of Hampton, Virgina did the same thing a couple of years ago but he didn't write a book.

                              http://www.lotterypost.com/news/186035

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