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Gambling opponents see trouble with new Florida Lottery instant rewards game

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A new Florida Lottery game offers payouts of up to $3 million and instant rewards — a combination that has gambling opponents worried.

Lucky Lines, which debuts Monday, lets players know right away if they're won big money. That's different from the Lottery's other computer-based games, such as Cash 3, Lotto and Powerball, and likey will appeal to compulsive gamblers, experts say.

"For somebody who is compulsive about gambling, they need instant results," said Pat Fowler, executive director of the Florida Council on Compulsive Gambling, based in Altamonte Springs.

Of the almost 5,000 people who asked the council for help last year, just 10 percent said Florida Lottery games were their main gambling problem. But 81 percent of those Lottery gamblers said their bane was scratch-off games that, like Lucky Lines, give instant results.

Joe S., a recovering gambler who answers the information line for Gamblers Anonymous in Central Florida, also sees the new game as trouble.

Lottery games — especially scratch-off tickets — come up "at just about every meeting," he said.

Joe S. said he expects compulsive gamblers who play scratch-off tickets to try Lucky Lines. But he also worries that people who dabble in the other games, such as Lotto and Powerball, without getting into trouble may try Lucky Lines and become hooked.

Many of those who win small amounts of money will put it right back into the game, he said.

Joe S. said the game probably would have lured him in if it came along before he stopped gambling in 1990.

"It's going to (cause problems)," said a volunteer with Gamblers Anonymous in Michigan, where Lucky Lines was introduced by the Michigan Lottery in April.

But unlike the Florida version of the game, which caps ticket prices at $5 with the top prize at $3 million, Michigan players can spend as much as $20 on a single ticket and win as much as $10 million instantly.

The volunteer, who did not give his name, said casinos are the No. 1 gambling problem in Michigan.

Lottery officials don't see Lucky Lines as any great departure from their familiar games.

"Consistent with the Florida Lottery's mission of generating as much money for education as possible, this new lottery game, like all lottery games, is designed to offer our customers a quality product for entertainment that is primarily purchased with discretionary dollars," said Lottery spokeswoman Connie Barnes.

"The instant-win component of this game is no different than our scratch-off games. Also, we already offer an instant-win computer-based game, EZmatch."

Players must purchase a Fantasy 5 ticket in order to play EZmatch, and the top prize is $500.

Lucky Lines is a cross between bingo and the casino game keno. Tickets sell for $1, $2, $3 or $5.

Players pick seven numbers between 1 and 49. They also can let Lottery computers pick some or all of the numbers.

The computer terminal then prints a game board displaying 49 numbers. If at least three of the numbers are connected in a line, vertically, horizontally or diagonally, the player wins. The player also wins if none of the numbers touches one another.

The prize for connecting three numbers ranges from $1 on a $1 play to $9 on a $5 play. Get all seven numbers in a row, and the prize ranges from $400,000 on a $1 play to $3 million on a $5 play.

Prizes less than under $600 can be collected at any Lottery retailer.

Lottery officials expect Lucky Lines to generate about $47 million in sales and raise about $15 million for the state's Educational Enhancement Trust Fund through next June 30, the end of the agency's fiscal year. June 30, 2011.

Thanks to rdgrnr for the tip.

Orlando Sentinel

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Littleoldlady's avatar - basket
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Posted: October 11, 2010, 9:03 am - IP Logged

Another rip-off game for the public.

If you know your number is going to hit, have patience and then KILL IT!

You never know when you will get another hit.

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    Nashville, TN
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    Posted: October 11, 2010, 9:18 am - IP Logged

    The game sounds fun. The addiction does not. You have to know your limits and when to draw the line.

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      Posted: October 11, 2010, 10:52 pm - IP Logged

      I play an occasional scratch off, but I play the jackpot games everyday. The instant games are popular because we live in an instant gratification society. I've always liked the anticipation of an upcoming drawing. I buy my tics on Sunday for the draws on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, then buy on Thursday for the rest of the week. It gives me something to look forward to.

      CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN

      A DOLLAR AND A DREAM (OR $2)

        rdgrnr's avatar - walt
        Way back up in them dadgum hills, son!
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        Posted: October 12, 2010, 12:38 am - IP Logged

        "Gambling opponents see trouble with new Florida Lottery instant rewards game"

        That headline struck me funny.

        Afterall, doesn't it go without saying that gambling opponents would see trouble with any new lottery game?

        It seems to me that the gambling opponents should just issue a blanket statement for all perpetuity that they see trouble with any new lottery game that ever comes out.

        And then close up shop forever.

        We got the message.


                                                     
                             
                                                 

         

         

         

         

                                                                                                           

        "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                    --Edmund Burke

         

         

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          Posted: October 12, 2010, 1:24 am - IP Logged

          How is it any more of a rip-off than any other game?

          "...a chance to push everything aside, the circumstances that've controlled our lives, and do it our way now. Good, bad or otherwise. You'll maybe get lost in it, tied up in it a little bit, but if you work your way through that the real you shows up, I think. Maybe what's at your core deep down, maybe that comes out. Maybe that's what it's about." Mike Pace 

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            Posted: October 12, 2010, 1:29 am - IP Logged

            I got up on Monday and raced out to play. I had dropped $23 by the time I decided to quit and try another day.

             

            There's no question it can be addicting, more so even than scratch-offs. Top prize on a $1 play is $400,000. No $1 scratch-off even comes close to paying that.

            "...a chance to push everything aside, the circumstances that've controlled our lives, and do it our way now. Good, bad or otherwise. You'll maybe get lost in it, tied up in it a little bit, but if you work your way through that the real you shows up, I think. Maybe what's at your core deep down, maybe that comes out. Maybe that's what it's about." Mike Pace 

              CARBOB's avatar - FL LOTTERY_LOGO.png
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              Posted: October 12, 2010, 6:00 am - IP Logged

              I got up on Monday and raced out to play. I had dropped $23 by the time I decided to quit and try another day.

               

              There's no question it can be addicting, more so even than scratch-offs. Top prize on a $1 play is $400,000. No $1 scratch-off even comes close to paying that.

              My very first play was a winner, 3-in-a-row, for $1. You have to admit, for $1, have a chance for a big payoff.

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                Posted: October 12, 2010, 2:09 pm - IP Logged

                Busybody do-gooders are always living in fear that someone, somewhere is enjoying their life.

                People can have addiction to all sorts of things -- gambling, booze, food, shtupping; you name it and someone out there is doing more of it than is "normal" -- and even more people are doing less of it than they'd like to.

                What's next? Closely spaced barriers at the ends of the grocery store snack aisle?

                "Sorry, Fatty, you must be this thin to get to the chips. Now, waddle on over to the carrots."

                In neo-conned Amerika, bank robs you.
                Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be the name of a convenience store, not a govnoment agency.

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                  Posted: October 12, 2010, 4:48 pm - IP Logged

                  How is it any more of a rip-off than any other game?

                  Ask a store clerk to show you the actual game manual for the real odds.

                  THEY ARE ABYSSMAL!

                  Something like 1 in 10,000 to win $200.

                  At least Pick 3 is 1 in 1000 for $500 for the same dollar.

                  Florida Lottery is becoming more greedy and resorting to tactics WORSE than any Indian Casino!

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                    st. pete
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                    Posted: October 13, 2010, 5:10 pm - IP Logged

                    I bought a $2.00 ticket and had all SEVEN  NUMBER--------Yes I  had a BIG SMILESmile  on my FACE until I read the payout for my all  seven number that don't touch...$4.00....I dont like the game...But I will play again....later ,much later in the year.Unhappy

                      rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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                      Posted: October 13, 2010, 5:26 pm - IP Logged

                      Busybody do-gooders are always living in fear that someone, somewhere is enjoying their life.

                      People can have addiction to all sorts of things -- gambling, booze, food, shtupping; you name it and someone out there is doing more of it than is "normal" -- and even more people are doing less of it than they'd like to.

                      What's next? Closely spaced barriers at the ends of the grocery store snack aisle?

                      "Sorry, Fatty, you must be this thin to get to the chips. Now, waddle on over to the carrots."

                               ROFL

                      They'll leave the shtuppers alone if they know what's good for 'em!


                                                                   
                                           
                                                               

                       

                       

                       

                       

                                                                                                                         

                      "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                                  --Edmund Burke

                       

                       

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                        Posted: October 15, 2010, 5:58 pm - IP Logged

                                 ROFL

                        They'll leave the shtuppers alone if they know what's good for 'em!

                        "They" had better!

                        LOL!!

                        Having several millions of dollars in my financial accounts means receiving several valuable services each day!

                        Disney

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                          Posted: November 3, 2010, 5:50 pm - IP Logged

                          Has anyone checked out the FL Lottery Demo on the game Lucky Lines? They have it rigged in the demo that no matter what numbers you pick or if you do a quick pick, you ALWAYS WIN !! If they can do that in the demo, what makes you think they cant rig the lotto machines to do the same to make you lose all the time too ??!! Hmm... I smell a MAJOR Scam !!! STAY AWAY FROM THIS ONE !!

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