NY Lottery contributed $2.6 billion to education

Apr 4, 2011, 8:36 am (23 comments)

New York Lottery

Includes video report

By Todd Northrop

ALBANY, N.Y. — With recent media attention focused on soaring Mega Millions sales, many people are curious how the lottery proceeds are divided and spent.

WNYT in New York asked the New York Lottery, and contacted several local school districts, to follow the trail of money from players' pockets to textbooks and commissions.

Last year lottery sales in New York State totaled more than $7.8 billion, of which $2.6 billion went to education funding.

The $2.6 billion represented 12% of the total New York State spending on education.

For every $1 spent on the lottery, $.34 goes to education, $.58 is allocated to winners in the forum of prizes, and $.06 is paid to retailers for their sales commissions.

A sampling of local district education allocations includes:

  • Albany $12,171,940.24
  • Troy $7,324,914.37
  • Schenectady $16,657,100.67
  • Shenendehowa $9,977,686.19
  • Bethlehem $5,473,766.79
  • Niskayuna $4,617,544.85

A complete district-by-district breakdown of lottery education funding, provided by the NYS Comptroller's Office, can be viewed by clicking the link in the Related Links section below this story.

The school district spokespeople contacted by WNYT Friday claim that by the time the lottery money gets to them, it isn't segregated from other state aid so they have no way of determining, how, exactly, it's spent.

When asked how the monies are divvied up by district, the NYS Education Department issued the following statement:

"According the the School Law Handbook, which is published by the NYS School Boards Assoc and the NYS Bar Assoc., a school district's share of the lottery proceeds is computed according to an equalized formula based on each school district's taxable property wealth per pupil to support the general state aids otherwise payable to a school district. School districts receive a portion of their fall state aid payment in the form of a check directly from the lottery fund by September 1 ( 3609-a(1)(a)(2)). A portion of the lottery funds ($15 per resident pupil) is added to regular textbook aid, which is included in the check districts receive from the lottery fund. Lottery aid also includes a $10 payment for each blind and deaf student attending state-supported schools for the blind and deaf."

Thanks to Jazi76 for the tip.

Lottery Post Staff, with reports from WNYT

Comments

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Hopefully this will keep the teachers union thugs from rioting and destroying and maliciously defacing the Capitol building like they did in Wisconsin.

They just better never think of reducing the amount given to them by so much as a penny no matter what even if they have to borrow the money or there'll be trouble.

HaveABall's avatarHaveABall

Perhaps someone can explain why, after half a century, the children students and educators remain: unmotivated, unscholarly, unnurtured, unkind, harassed, and exhibit a general hopelessness? 

What?

B$Rizzle's avatarB$Rizzle

"For every $1 spent on the lottery, $.34 goes to education, $.58 is allocated to winners in the forum of prizes, and $.06 is paid to retailers for their sales commissions."

 

Where does the ogther $.02 per dollar go?

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by B$Rizzle on Apr 4, 2011

"For every $1 spent on the lottery, $.34 goes to education, $.58 is allocated to winners in the forum of prizes, and $.06 is paid to retailers for their sales commissions."

 

Where does the ogther $.02 per dollar go?

I saw a movie where the scheme was taking all the extra pennies from each transaction and diverting them to a separate bank account.

It added up to huge amounts of money in no time.

Of course government officials would never even think of doing something like that.

Unless maybe they saw the movie...

time*treat's avatartime*treat

Quote: Originally posted by HaveABall on Apr 4, 2011

Perhaps someone can explain why, after half a century, the children students and educators remain: unmotivated, unscholarly, unnurtured, unkind, harassed, and exhibit a general hopelessness? 

What?

That's not a bug; it's a feature. Dead

B$Rizzle's avatarB$Rizzle

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Apr 4, 2011

I saw a movie where the scheme was taking all the extra pennies from each transaction and diverting them to a separate bank account.

It added up to huge amounts of money in no time.

Of course government officials would never even think of doing something like that.

Unless maybe they saw the movie...

Ha ha "Office Space" was a great movie!

sully16's avatarsully16

I think we need someone to oversee where the educational dollars are going, not just a pie chart that gives us a quick breakdown.

Example of educational waste.

My son and 3 of his buddies ( ALL OF THEM 11 YEARS OLD) had a contest at lunch one day,

who could squeeze juice from orange wedges the farthest ( Alpha male syndrome )

Not my proudest moment as a parent. What came next , boggles my mind.

The boys had to have an intervention, they had to discuss therir feelings and describe why they felt the need to be so disruptive and destructive.

Phone calls were made to all the parents, we had to go to the school, miss work, sign papers stating we would take corrective actions.

This bull sh** when on for a week, with the school psycologist...Really do 11 year olds need that?

My solution would have went something like this.

" HEY ! You 4 a**holes get to clean the lunchroon for a week ! No recess and a paragraph or 2 on why we don't screw around with food at lunch time.

Do it again and will send a letter home.!

I would have saved the tax payers 80 thousand dollars, plus lifetime benefits.

maringoman's avatarmaringoman

The teachers spoil the kids so so much its crazy. I agree with you guys. When kids do silly things, no need for counselling or unendless parents teachers meetings, just punish the kids. Punish them and let them know a repeat offence is going to be punished even more severely.

Most kids have learnt to push the boundaries because they have realized parents are just yakking machines. All they do is yak then they give pocket money.

JONNIE

$2.6B to education and the schools suck.. Thanks to me mostly for losing $$$ LOL

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Apr 4, 2011

I think we need someone to oversee where the educational dollars are going, not just a pie chart that gives us a quick breakdown.

Example of educational waste.

My son and 3 of his buddies ( ALL OF THEM 11 YEARS OLD) had a contest at lunch one day,

who could squeeze juice from orange wedges the farthest ( Alpha male syndrome )

Not my proudest moment as a parent. What came next , boggles my mind.

The boys had to have an intervention, they had to discuss therir feelings and describe why they felt the need to be so disruptive and destructive.

Phone calls were made to all the parents, we had to go to the school, miss work, sign papers stating we would take corrective actions.

This bull sh** when on for a week, with the school psycologist...Really do 11 year olds need that?

My solution would have went something like this.

" HEY ! You 4 a**holes get to clean the lunchroon for a week ! No recess and a paragraph or 2 on why we don't screw around with food at lunch time.

Do it again and will send a letter home.!

I would have saved the tax payers 80 thousand dollars, plus lifetime benefits.

Dittoes.I Agree!

freeobama's avatarfreeobama

NY definitely got the money all the jackpots they win!!Red Eyes

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by B$Rizzle on Apr 4, 2011

Ha ha "Office Space" was a great movie!

Yeah "Office Space", that was it! That was a great movie.

Milton Waddams: [talking on the phone] And I said, I don't care if they lay me off either, because I told, I told Bill that if they move my desk one more time, then, then I'm, I'm quitting, I'm going to quit. And, and I told Don too, because they've moved my desk four times already this year, and I used to be over by the window, and I could see the squirrels, and they were married, but then, they switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline stapler because it didn't bind up as much, and I kept the staples for the Swingline stapler and it's not okay because if they take my stapler then I'll set the building on fire...

Mark Haigh

Never take a mans stapler.Smiley

Todd's avatarTodd

Quote: Originally posted by B$Rizzle on Apr 4, 2011

"For every $1 spent on the lottery, $.34 goes to education, $.58 is allocated to winners in the forum of prizes, and $.06 is paid to retailers for their sales commissions."

 

Where does the ogther $.02 per dollar go?

Somebody has to run the lottery.  I think the figure (when you take the rounding out) is around 1.6 cents of each dollar goes to running the lottery.  Very efficient, I think.  Not a lot of fat there, especially for a lottery as big as New York's.

MADDOG10's avatarMADDOG10

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Apr 4, 2011

I think we need someone to oversee where the educational dollars are going, not just a pie chart that gives us a quick breakdown.

Example of educational waste.

My son and 3 of his buddies ( ALL OF THEM 11 YEARS OLD) had a contest at lunch one day,

who could squeeze juice from orange wedges the farthest ( Alpha male syndrome )

Not my proudest moment as a parent. What came next , boggles my mind.

The boys had to have an intervention, they had to discuss therir feelings and describe why they felt the need to be so disruptive and destructive.

Phone calls were made to all the parents, we had to go to the school, miss work, sign papers stating we would take corrective actions.

This bull sh** when on for a week, with the school psycologist...Really do 11 year olds need that?

My solution would have went something like this.

" HEY ! You 4 a**holes get to clean the lunchroon for a week ! No recess and a paragraph or 2 on why we don't screw around with food at lunch time.

Do it again and will send a letter home.!

I would have saved the tax payers 80 thousand dollars, plus lifetime benefits.

Totally agree Sully,

     Teach them something Yes, but let them be kids. I guess they've forgotten how to be a kid..!  Intervention with a physcologist over that ?  What the hey..! 

P.S. tell them navel orange wedges shoot the farthest...!

B$Rizzle's avatarB$Rizzle

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Apr 5, 2011

Somebody has to run the lottery.  I think the figure (when you take the rounding out) is around 1.6 cents of each dollar goes to running the lottery.  Very efficient, I think.  Not a lot of fat there, especially for a lottery as big as New York's.

That makes sense, & thats what I figured. It was just kinda strange they didnt include the salary percentage in the breakdown, almost like they wanted to withhold the info so the reader only saw "education" gets a big chunk.

time*treat's avatartime*treat

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Apr 4, 2011

I think we need someone to oversee where the educational dollars are going, not just a pie chart that gives us a quick breakdown.

Example of educational waste.

My son and 3 of his buddies ( ALL OF THEM 11 YEARS OLD) had a contest at lunch one day,

who could squeeze juice from orange wedges the farthest ( Alpha male syndrome )

Not my proudest moment as a parent. What came next , boggles my mind.

The boys had to have an intervention, they had to discuss therir feelings and describe why they felt the need to be so disruptive and destructive.

Phone calls were made to all the parents, we had to go to the school, miss work, sign papers stating we would take corrective actions.

This bull sh** when on for a week, with the school psycologist...Really do 11 year olds need that?

My solution would have went something like this.

" HEY ! You 4 a**holes get to clean the lunchroon for a week ! No recess and a paragraph or 2 on why we don't screw around with food at lunch time.

Do it again and will send a letter home.!

I would have saved the tax payers 80 thousand dollars, plus lifetime benefits.

Back in the "old" days, they might have had to clean up the lunch room for a week -- and may have gotten a few swats on the rear for their payment, all without the parents even being informed or with the incident being noted in their "permanent records" (other than everyone's memoryLOL).

These days, the schools have to deal with too many parents (and their lawyers) that think their little stain-on-humanity can do no wrong, and swatting is considered battery (truthfully, it never was an equal-opportunity punishment). Everything becomes a circus, to avoid lawsuits. Remember the 1st grader suspended for sexual harassment (kissing a classmate on the cheek)?

It's not just at school, it's everywhere. Many things you could do (or refuse to do) 20yrs ago with little or no punishment ... would get you arrested, today. Now, take off your shoes and step into the scanner. Evil Smile

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by time*treat on Apr 5, 2011

Back in the "old" days, they might have had to clean up the lunch room for a week -- and may have gotten a few swats on the rear for their payment, all without the parents even being informed or with the incident being noted in their "permanent records" (other than everyone's memoryLOL).

These days, the schools have to deal with too many parents (and their lawyers) that think their little stain-on-humanity can do no wrong, and swatting is considered battery (truthfully, it never was an equal-opportunity punishment). Everything becomes a circus, to avoid lawsuits. Remember the 1st grader suspended for sexual harassment (kissing a classmate on the cheek)?

It's not just at school, it's everywhere. Many things you could do (or refuse to do) 20yrs ago with little or no punishment ... would get you arrested, today. Now, take off your shoes and step into the scanner. Evil Smile

You Nailed it , Lets all go back to the good old days.Hippy

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Apr 4, 2011

I think we need someone to oversee where the educational dollars are going, not just a pie chart that gives us a quick breakdown.

Example of educational waste.

My son and 3 of his buddies ( ALL OF THEM 11 YEARS OLD) had a contest at lunch one day,

who could squeeze juice from orange wedges the farthest ( Alpha male syndrome )

Not my proudest moment as a parent. What came next , boggles my mind.

The boys had to have an intervention, they had to discuss therir feelings and describe why they felt the need to be so disruptive and destructive.

Phone calls were made to all the parents, we had to go to the school, miss work, sign papers stating we would take corrective actions.

This bull sh** when on for a week, with the school psycologist...Really do 11 year olds need that?

My solution would have went something like this.

" HEY ! You 4 a**holes get to clean the lunchroon for a week ! No recess and a paragraph or 2 on why we don't screw around with food at lunch time.

Do it again and will send a letter home.!

I would have saved the tax payers 80 thousand dollars, plus lifetime benefits.

That's what we get when the touchy-feely, busy-body crowd who overwhelmingly dominate our educational system, news media and entertainment industry have control of the Senate and White House too.

They seek to emasculate male children to make them more in the image of themselves - politically correct, limp-wristed, mealy-mouthed, indecisive, vacillating, waffling, nervous-nellie, whining little wimps. Kinda like a cross between Harry Reid and Barney Frank and Anthony Wiener.

Our job? Don't let em do it.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Apr 5, 2011

That's what we get when the touchy-feely, busy-body crowd who overwhelmingly dominate our educational system, news media and entertainment industry have control of the Senate and White House too.

They seek to emasculate male children to make them more in the image of themselves - politically correct, limp-wristed, mealy-mouthed, indecisive, vacillating, waffling, nervous-nellie, whining little wimps. Kinda like a cross between Harry Reid and Barney Frank and Anthony Wiener.

Our job? Don't let em do it.

Well said,

Prob988

It is unsurprising, I think, that people who most hate education and teachers are precisely the people who think they are going to win the lottery.

All of the people who teach my children have at least six years of college education, many of them having had to complete courses in higher math.

Some of them struggled mightly to make ends meet to accomplish this task, working two or three extra jobs.

I like to play the lottery, and I like to fantasize that I'm going to win, but I don't expect it. 

One reason I like to play the lottery is because I value education, unlike the uneducated air heads like that loser, the Governor of Wisconsin, a perennially C student, who probably only achieving that August level by um, cheating.   Maybe he's working out some issues from his life as a failure, and this is the reason why he hates teachers, all of whom, unlike him, finished their college degrees.

When I lose playing the lottery, I feel that future generations win.

The fact is the people who are quickly making this country a third world country - which it deserves to be by the way, given that its run in many places by dime store preachers - are decidedly contemptuous of education having not, apparently, had one.

Of course, educated people generally know how to work for a living, and don't rely on lottery fantasies to get by.

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by Prob988 on Apr 5, 2011

It is unsurprising, I think, that people who most hate education and teachers are precisely the people who think they are going to win the lottery.

All of the people who teach my children have at least six years of college education, many of them having had to complete courses in higher math.

Some of them struggled mightly to make ends meet to accomplish this task, working two or three extra jobs.

I like to play the lottery, and I like to fantasize that I'm going to win, but I don't expect it. 

One reason I like to play the lottery is because I value education, unlike the uneducated air heads like that loser, the Governor of Wisconsin, a perennially C student, who probably only achieving that August level by um, cheating.   Maybe he's working out some issues from his life as a failure, and this is the reason why he hates teachers, all of whom, unlike him, finished their college degrees.

When I lose playing the lottery, I feel that future generations win.

The fact is the people who are quickly making this country a third world country - which it deserves to be by the way, given that its run in many places by dime store preachers - are decidedly contemptuous of education having not, apparently, had one.

Of course, educated people generally know how to work for a living, and don't rely on lottery fantasies to get by.

Excuse me missy, (assuming your gender - you didn't want it included in your profile)

I don't mean to interfere with your hate and angst filled tirade against everyone here who loves America but I was wondering about a few things.

Shouldn't educated people like you at the very least be proficient at spelling before bragging about how educated you are and how great our teachers are and what a great educational system we have? Is this the same system that taught you how to spell? The union thugs who destroy the people's property if their demands aren't met? Tsk, tsk, tsk. Shame, young missy, shame.

 

"All of the people who teach my children have at least six years of college education, many of them having had to complete courses in higher math."

So what do they want, medals? If that's the requirement and they want the job, they have to do it. Period. Was it forced on them? No. Were they tricked into it? No. Was it sprung on them at the last minute? No. They knew the requirements going in. So don't whine about it like they went above and beyond the call of duty as a sacrifice for some sacred cause because they didn't. They did it because they wanted a plush job they couldn't get fired from, working 9 months a year at big bucks and retiring with a big fat pension with full medical coverage and benefits up the ying yang for life, all at the taxpayers expense.

Teachers whining about having to get an education to teach is like a carpenter whining because he has to buy a hammer and saw. Get over it. Nobody cares. Nobody told them what field to go into. And with people who can't spell graduating, maybe they should be flipping burgers anyway.

 

"Some of them struggled mightly to make ends meet to accomplish this task, working two or three extra jobs."

If it's "nightly" you tried to spell, it starts with an "n". If it's "mightily" you tried to spell, it has two "i's". If it has something to do with Mighty Mouse, I don't even want to know about it.

I really don't have time to give you remedial spelling classes but anyway...

They had to work jobs to make ends meet?

Oh my God! No! Not that! Not a JOB! The GOVERNMENT should have paid for everything! This is an outrage!

Is that what you're saying?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

 

...I like to fantasize...

Knock yourself out missy but I'm married.

 

"...uneducated air heads like that loser, the Governor of Wisconsin, a perennially C student, who probably only achieving that August level by um, cheating." 

I'm trying hard to overlook your grammar, spelling, structure, and litany of other errors but doggone it missy, you need a ton of remedial help! Do you know the difference between August and august? There is a world of difference. They are not even remotely related. And how does the word "achieving" fit contextually into that sentence? Do you see how your poor writing skills can baffle people, missy? Please work on that. Please. Please? Thanks ever so much.

What I wanted to address in that twisted, unintelligible blurb though were your anger issues, missy. You have them and you and every unfortunate person around you undoubtedly knows it. You need to work on that. There is enough hatred in the world to suffice without you adding your hysterical little portion.

Two words: Anger Management

 

"...making this country a third world country - which it deserves to be..." 

Now that statement says it all, missy. It defines you and every liberal in this country.

I'll tell you what though, missy: Instead of whining and complaining and tearing down and destroying this country you hate so much, why don't you and the rest of the America-hating weasels just go and find one more to your liking? 

Colt45ML's avatarColt45ML

Quote: Originally posted by time*treat on Apr 5, 2011

Back in the "old" days, they might have had to clean up the lunch room for a week -- and may have gotten a few swats on the rear for their payment, all without the parents even being informed or with the incident being noted in their "permanent records" (other than everyone's memoryLOL).

These days, the schools have to deal with too many parents (and their lawyers) that think their little stain-on-humanity can do no wrong, and swatting is considered battery (truthfully, it never was an equal-opportunity punishment). Everything becomes a circus, to avoid lawsuits. Remember the 1st grader suspended for sexual harassment (kissing a classmate on the cheek)?

It's not just at school, it's everywhere. Many things you could do (or refuse to do) 20yrs ago with little or no punishment ... would get you arrested, today. Now, take off your shoes and step into the scanner. Evil Smile

And there you have it, the reason why I want to be able to claim my mega millions or powerball jackpot prize anonomously and leave the country with it and my family.  The stench is so bad in this country 24/7 until I just want to throw up 24/7. Well, I don't really want to, but I do possess the sentiment.

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