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B$Rizzle's avatar - a4leds
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Posted: May 6, 2011, 5:49 pm - IP Logged

Thumbs Up......this is why you go Anonymous...there are some sick people in the world

I wish in all states people could remain anonymous. Here in FL we cant =(

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    Posted: May 6, 2011, 7:34 pm - IP Logged

    just a little fyi, you can remain anonymous, you just can't use the trust path in A dirct way.

     

    you can however, use the corporation or llc purchased the tickets path

    and be anonymous via  A trust as the solo  "Owner" of say whatever said corporation claims, Hot ! Mwahahahaha

    don't let what the florida lottery says or what ever idiot thinks tell you otherwise, their also a option.

    you see, the united states supreme court, bless their stupid little hearts,  said corporations are in fact People, aka also have  all the rights of people

     

    they can claim a ticket, just like you or me, now  set one up,  and using lawyer paperwork skills,one would also be in charge of said corporation. 

    the "owner" will be a trust, people can put their ownership of a corporation in a trust , yes

    and their you go, a trust will end up with the money, however so much paperwork and brains are needed to pull this off, you better be a major pb or mm winner to to even bother going down such a path that cost you a ton for a smart lawyer to do the work for you.

    but it can be Done,    lucky i live in tn, where they just allow you to use a freaking trust and don't have to go thro the loopholes to end up with a trust claiming, geez

     

    if anyone of you do win in FL and get a chance to pull this off

    plz name your corporation, "you never get this winner found and killed Florida"

    that should make your point.        but am sure you just use some low profile ,   boring sounding name of common names ,

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      Posted: May 6, 2011, 8:53 pm - IP Logged

      just a little fyi, you can remain anonymous, you just can't use the trust path in A dirct way.

       

      you can however, use the corporation or llc purchased the tickets path

      and be anonymous via  A trust as the solo  "Owner" of say whatever said corporation claims, Hot ! Mwahahahaha

      don't let what the florida lottery says or what ever idiot thinks tell you otherwise, their also a option.

      you see, the united states supreme court, bless their stupid little hearts,  said corporations are in fact People, aka also have  all the rights of people

       

      they can claim a ticket, just like you or me, now  set one up,  and using lawyer paperwork skills,one would also be in charge of said corporation. 

      the "owner" will be a trust, people can put their ownership of a corporation in a trust , yes

      and their you go, a trust will end up with the money, however so much paperwork and brains are needed to pull this off, you better be a major pb or mm winner to to even bother going down such a path that cost you a ton for a smart lawyer to do the work for you.

      but it can be Done,    lucky i live in tn, where they just allow you to use a freaking trust and don't have to go thro the loopholes to end up with a trust claiming, geez

       

      if anyone of you do win in FL and get a chance to pull this off

      plz name your corporation, "you never get this winner found and killed Florida"

      that should make your point.        but am sure you just use some low profile ,   boring sounding name of common names ,

      That might be good advice for Tammy Henry Jordan of Port St. Lucie if she wins lots of money in the lottery, but the problem here is Tammy Henry of Jupiter won the money. Life certainly would have been much easier for Jordan had Henry claimed her $2 million scratch-off ticket using a trust, but she didn't.

      Telling everybody with a common name to get an unlisted phone number just in case someone with a similar sounding name wins a jackpot would be better advice.

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        Posted: May 6, 2011, 9:16 pm - IP Logged

        'I know you won.' 'You don't have to lie.' 'We know where you live.'

        Unbelievable.

        I would respond to that phone call by inviting the callers over and introducing them to my good friend Sam Colt and my buddies, Smith and Wesson.

        LOL.  That's exactly what I was thinking!!!!I Agree!

          B$Rizzle's avatar - a4leds
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          Posted: May 6, 2011, 9:53 pm - IP Logged

          just a little fyi, you can remain anonymous, you just can't use the trust path in A dirct way.

           

          you can however, use the corporation or llc purchased the tickets path

          and be anonymous via  A trust as the solo  "Owner" of say whatever said corporation claims, Hot ! Mwahahahaha

          don't let what the florida lottery says or what ever idiot thinks tell you otherwise, their also a option.

          you see, the united states supreme court, bless their stupid little hearts,  said corporations are in fact People, aka also have  all the rights of people

           

          they can claim a ticket, just like you or me, now  set one up,  and using lawyer paperwork skills,one would also be in charge of said corporation. 

          the "owner" will be a trust, people can put their ownership of a corporation in a trust , yes

          and their you go, a trust will end up with the money, however so much paperwork and brains are needed to pull this off, you better be a major pb or mm winner to to even bother going down such a path that cost you a ton for a smart lawyer to do the work for you.

          but it can be Done,    lucky i live in tn, where they just allow you to use a freaking trust and don't have to go thro the loopholes to end up with a trust claiming, geez

           

          if anyone of you do win in FL and get a chance to pull this off

          plz name your corporation, "you never get this winner found and killed Florida"

          that should make your point.        but am sure you just use some low profile ,   boring sounding name of common names ,

          Joshua, although most of what you said is in fact TRUE, there is a false assumption that you listed.

           

          Even if a person in FL files the claim under a trust, the FL lottery can and WILL release the sole proprietor of that trust aka; persons name.

           

          So a person can try and hide behind a company name all they want, but the FL Lottery will check out the owner of the trust, corporation, company etc and release the owner of that entity in their press release.

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            Posted: May 6, 2011, 9:57 pm - IP Logged

            'I know you won.' 'You don't have to lie.' 'We know where you live.'

            Unbelievable.

            I would respond to that phone call by inviting the callers over and introducing them to my good friend Sam Colt and my buddies, Smith and Wesson.

            exactly .. i wish they would try me! No No Todd, please find a gun toting emoticon for us [registered] gun owners!

            when i win - solo, my lawyer will be instructed to say "a group of 52 retired navy seals have won" -- you know, to get the haters off my butt .. Sulk Off

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              Posted: May 6, 2011, 10:12 pm - IP Logged

              "I've been receiving congratulations phone calls," Jordan said. "I've been receiving threatening phone calls. 'I know you won.' 'You don't have to lie.' 'We know where you live.'"

              If she's not careful she could end up like the Florida lottery winner Abraham Shakespear by mistake. 

              The women charged with his murder claims she was only trying to steal his money and home and has no idea how he ended up buried in her back yard under a concrete pad.

               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                 
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                Posted: May 6, 2011, 10:35 pm - IP Logged

                Joshua, although most of what you said is in fact TRUE, there is a false assumption that you listed.

                 

                Even if a person in FL files the claim under a trust, the FL lottery can and WILL release the sole proprietor of that trust aka; persons name.

                 

                So a person can try and hide behind a company name all they want, but the FL Lottery will check out the owner of the trust, corporation, company etc and release the owner of that entity in their press release.

                Where the information goes off kilter B$Rizzle, is that the company owner can be Huckleberry Finn ( Fictious name) , Trust can and are set up that way to protect the body of interest, be it a trust fund baby or en endowment to an institution. Sorry but Florida doesnt waste months tracking things down that are sealed by the courts for good reason.   The Florida Lottery can be sited for this by the Trust entity . Some records are sealed and cannot be opened to public knowledge even on awards given such as the Lottery .

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                  Posted: May 6, 2011, 10:52 pm - IP Logged

                  'I know you won.' 'You don't have to lie.' 'We know where you live.'

                  Unbelievable.

                  I would respond to that phone call by inviting the callers over and introducing them to my good friend Sam Colt and my buddies, Smith and Wesson.

                  LOL You got that right!! Or better yet I'd hook up some good ole electricity to the metal screen door, not to much but just enough to watch em yelp!!!! Come on over I'm the lottery winner.

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                    Posted: May 6, 2011, 10:58 pm - IP Logged

                    People calling your cell phone usually either already know you or know someone close to you.

                    What she has found out is how many jerks are in/near her inner circle.

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                      Posted: May 6, 2011, 11:16 pm - IP Logged

                      Where the information goes off kilter B$Rizzle, is that the company owner can be Huckleberry Finn ( Fictious name) , Trust can and are set up that way to protect the body of interest, be it a trust fund baby or en endowment to an institution. Sorry but Florida doesnt waste months tracking things down that are sealed by the courts for good reason.   The Florida Lottery can be sited for this by the Trust entity . Some records are sealed and cannot be opened to public knowledge even on awards given such as the Lottery .

                      GameGirl - I Understand that, however FL laws can be and probably are quite different here than in PA regarding business filings with the state. No matter how someone in FL wants their DBA (Doing Business As) name to be, it is still registered to an actual legal name ("person"). That person can easily be unveiled by a simple search on the Division of Corporation site established in FL. A ficticious name is just another way of saying "Doing Business As", so a person can create an actual business name rather than using "John Smith".  That way "John Smith" can operate under the ficticious name: "Johns Flowers". Anyone can still look up the owner/trustee of "Johns Flowers".

                      There is much to be said regarding this and everyone has their own ideas or options so well just have to leave it at that ;)

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                        Posted: May 7, 2011, 2:21 am - IP Logged

                        leave it at that, o hell no, i hate people giving people wrong idea's

                         

                        the fact is once money in a legal trust,  you can firewall any winner  real identity

                         , in this case, i can even side step any insane florida law's while am at it to prove my point

                        how it would be done.

                        corporation claims pb in Florida,   your record laws can find out its Owned by x Trust, the trustie , will just be a Lawyer!

                        will congrats you know the lawyer ,  now he being paid to not tell you who the real  beneficiaries are, you know that right?

                         

                        form  a legal stand point,  am insulted you people in florida think you somehow have special  rights to access the trust records to  whoever  the  beneficiaries are.

                        now  even if you could find out the beneficiaries!        by somehow accessing their records, guest what i can do , o look the beneficiaries is  just a other trust, could even be a diff lawyer as the trustie,  and to add insult to injury, i can make that 2nd trust , a trust based in a other state, say TN with its own diff trust laws etc,  it would take legal battle no in their right mind, you be laughed out of court before you ever find out real names of the beneficiaries

                         

                         

                        you in theory could go on forever,  with trust  having other beneficiaries be trust's as will,

                        I Don't give a rats beep about your state laws ,  once its in a trust, any trust lawyer worth their law degree can channel that money into black Hole far as you all finding out who it is...

                        get a  great trust/corporation lawyer if your in florida and get it Done.  tell them what you want. and demand it be done, 

                        that's why i said don't let what the florida lottery says or what ever idiot thinks tell you otherwise, their also a option

                        and i mean what i say, i know to much about legal world of trust's and corporations to know you Can't hide your true Name form almust everyone but the IRS it self LOL

                         

                        as for this lady, sucks to be her. no money and treated like them via requests. OH

                          but proves a point lottery winners who go public,  are just sitting them self's up, everyone has access to computor/net, and with that, all they need is your legal name and city just add's insult to it, and bam they got your address, phone, ever thing PUBLIC will be their. and Their to many bad people  who ask people for Money, and go out of their way to do it.

                        , i have seen all the lottery winners shows,like tlc ,curse of the lottery, uk does some shows on their winners also.

                        where winners  point out how much requests they get, the fact florida winner have been murdered for the money alone by a scam artist who got to him, should prove the point

                        to never make your self a target in today's world,   people don't treat lottery winners the same, and ever story like this Proves it more and more

                        maybe being famous is some people thing,  but majority of us i think just went the money and not the famous part LOL

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                          GameGirl - I Understand that, however FL laws can be and probably are quite different here than in PA regarding business filings with the state. No matter how someone in FL wants their DBA (Doing Business As) name to be, it is still registered to an actual legal name ("person"). That person can easily be unveiled by a simple search on the Division of Corporation site established in FL. A ficticious name is just another way of saying "Doing Business As", so a person can create an actual business name rather than using "John Smith".  That way "John Smith" can operate under the ficticious name: "Johns Flowers". Anyone can still look up the owner/trustee of "Johns Flowers".

                          There is much to be said regarding this and everyone has their own ideas or options so well just have to leave it at that ;)

                          And the only way around that problem is to have an out of state trust claim the winnings! FL then has no right to any information from the other states' secretary who receives and files said trust in that state! Problem Solved!!!!!!!!

                          No state has any rights to information from another states' secretary for trust filings, unless that state that's asking for said information can show some sort of fraud is being commited and then they are going to need a court order to get said information! Never use a trust to claim any prize that was filed in the same state as the prize, Always use an out of state trust!

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                            Posted: May 7, 2011, 11:02 am - IP Logged

                            who needs to  win lotto? you just need to have same name, or eeep buy a house off of a winner who doesnt tell you. to be murdered in your sleep.

                            no blind trust would help in this situation, and worse no winningsa to disappear with.

                             

                            and you are more likely to have the same name as someone who wins than actually win yourself

                            i base that on the odds of having someone with the same name out there. meaning that nime is more likely to win than you. as there are at least 2 of that name.

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                              Posted: May 7, 2011, 11:40 am - IP Logged

                              Imagine what the people who have the last name of Hitler must go through on a daily basis.  Whats kinda stange about the story is this person who didn't win actually went public and brought more attention to herself.  She's begging to be trolled by some professionals now.