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Blackjack player legitimately beats casinos for millions

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sully16's avatar - sharan
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Posted: May 27, 2011, 8:06 am - IP Logged

At first I was expecting Miami Vice guy......WTG Don JohnsonThumbs Up

LOL Me too, great minds think alike, Congrats Mr. Johnson

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    HaveABall's avatar - rocket

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    Posted: May 27, 2011, 10:55 am - IP Logged

    The article reads:  "In all, Johnson racked up about $15.1 million, pre-taxed, in blackjack winnings during a six-month span, although he acknowledged incurring some undisclosed losses along the way."

     I wonder how much it cost Don Johnson to rack up those $15.1 million in winnings?  Maybe half? Maybe X amount? 

    I wonder if someone "sponsored" Don Johnson's bankroll, and now Johnson has to pay back the person PLUS share X amount of his winnings?

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      frontenac, kansas
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      Posted: May 27, 2011, 11:13 am - IP Logged

      I would say his company computer also might of had some help in him setting up a system.  Then you have to have the dicipline to not deviate in anyway and stick with the program.  Good for him.  Give em another A$$ whoopin....they can afford it.

        Boney526's avatar - NjlpLogo
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        Posted: May 27, 2011, 11:56 am - IP Logged

        To everyone who' argueing about luck vs. skill, it's obvious that something like blackjack can take a bit of both - and a game like blackjack isn't comparable to a lottery game.  In BJ you place your bet, get your first two cards, and when it's your turn, you decide what to do.  Other people decide what they're going to do.  Even though you don't know what card is next, there's a skill involved in understanding the math and probabilities.  When you should stay instead of hit, when you should try to make the dealer bust, etc.  In lottery, you make your bet, and the machine completely takes over.  It's random, completely.  To argue otherwise is making a fool's arguement.


        I didn't say you can't do anything to raise your odds, or to make you win.  But it is still random.


        Both games require luck - it's just that in a game like Blackjack, understanding the math of the game is much more important that in lottey, where a quick pick is just us likely to win as a player pick.


        PS:  I read that 3 Atlantic City casinos had lost money on Blackjack in the paper, and thought it was fishy.  This explains it.

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          Posted: May 27, 2011, 12:48 pm - IP Logged

          The casinos and the lottery companies got exactly the reaction they wanted from this story. They want people to believe that blackjack and the lotteries can be beaten. This results in a lot more revenue for them.

            LANTERN's avatar - kilroy 28_173_reasonably_small.jpg
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            Posted: May 28, 2011, 12:28 am - IP Logged

            I should leave this alone as this kind of things leads no-where, but here I go again instead, I guess that I never learn.


            "He took Caesars for more than $4 million, burned Borgata for about $5 million and then topped it off by beating Tropicana out of $5.8 million."

            So much for random.

            The blackjack game is so random that he cleaned out 3 casinos real good in about 6 months.

            Then since the blackjack game is equaly random for everybody who plays it, I guess that winning 15 Millions in about 6 months is a regular thing for everybody to do and it happens all of the time, makes me wonder how the casinos can survive this ongoing thing, from where do they get such money that they are always giving away and why isn't everybody always playing blackjack instead of working, if we can all always make 15 Millions every 6 months? After all, that is the product of random, right?

            Random must then means to give away millions all of the time, if so then why aren't we all making millions playing the lottery, or isn't the lottery also random, like blackjack is?

            Otherwise maybe that must be a hell of a lucky guy, so lucky that he has already being banned from all the casinos here on the USA and maybe also those overseas, all that he needs to do is play and he wins, he can't lose.


            He believes in luck and in random, that is why his company makes or made computer-assisted wagering programs for horseracing, such programs then must of course produce quick picks, I wonder then why they are so expensive to buy?


            "He confirmed in two interviews with The Press of Atlantic City that he is the blackjack player who has been single-handedly scorching the casino industry in the past six months."

            The product of a random game and a lot of luck of course, What else could it be, skill-technique? Of course not, there is no such thing with random games, it is all luck, too bad that now it is ended forever as he can't play blackjack on the casinos anymore, the casinos say that he is too lucky.

            Too lucky people are not allowed to play at casinos.


            Most remarkable was his haul of $5.8 million during a 12-hour spree at Tropicana Casino and Resort in April.

            As we said, the game is random an he is very lucky.


            "Johnson, who declined to call himself a professional gambler, would not divulge his betting strategy"

            His betting strategy must of course be just having a lot of luck, what else can it be?


            All of this a waste of course.

            All gambling games are random and anybody who wins wins by having luck, What else is there?


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              Posted: May 28, 2011, 12:54 am - IP Logged

              There is definite luck.


              I have won a semi-major prize playing the CA Lottery and Scratchers, for the past 6 weeks, I have managed to win probably over 5K. 934.00 in Daily Derby ( hit the trifecta ), I was one out of 6 to hit it and the ONLY winner in SD county. 500$ scratcher 3 weeks in a row, 4 out of 5 numbers in Fantasy 5 twice...and at least 3 100$ scratchers twice in a day. I say luck is on my side...I used to play Blackjack and I use to deal it at the Taj Mahal in AC back in 1993. Most i walked away with was 3200.00 playing for 8 hours....I like the lottery better, wagering 10-20 bucks and walking away with more than I spend :)


                RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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                Posted: May 28, 2011, 2:29 am - IP Logged

                "I'll take luck over any other skill," Johnson said, laughing. "There's no magic to this. Eventually, someone would whack them. I'm just glad it was me."

                It's obvious Don Johnson doesn't plan on coming out with a book in the near future explaining to other blackjack players how to beat the house which casinos would probably use to change their rules to prevent it happening again.

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                  Posted: May 28, 2011, 11:53 am - IP Logged

                  Hey people can we do something about all these non wining lottery games and ticks beside through them on our city streets I send a email to my State lottery office about this growing problem in all our cities maybe begin to give people prizes for X amount of retune non-winer. My power ball numbers for tonight are 13 29 33 45 24 # 16 good luck from the state of Mass.

                    RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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                    Posted: May 28, 2011, 12:20 pm - IP Logged

                    "I don't think they will let me play anymore," he said of the Atlantic City casinos. "But it's not going to change my life. If I don't play blackjack, I'll just go to the horse races."

                    I noticed he didn't say:

                    "If I don't play blackjack, I'll just play the lottteries."

                     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
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                      Posted: May 28, 2011, 1:53 pm - IP Logged

                      I wonder if casino (and other forms of gaming) winners run into the same kind of strangers-with-their-hand-out problem as lottery winners.

                      Thinking of...

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                        Posted: May 28, 2011, 2:24 pm - IP Logged

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                          Posted: May 28, 2011, 2:28 pm - IP Logged

                          The only "system" is to have a play for every lottery drawing...just one is all it takes.  As for casino games, a measure of knowledge of the game goes a long way in helping one to do better than most, but it is still luck of the draw (with the cards).  So in the end, it is ALL LUCK.

                          So in the end, it is ALL LUCK.


                          Go ahead and keep believing that BS.

                          You're right, knowing how to handle those cards that are dealt to you, have absolutely nothing to do with your success in the game. Yeah, it's all luck.....(Only in your mind).....Unhappy