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Changes coming to Powerball multi-state lottery game in January

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Posted: June 29, 2011, 4:06 pm - IP Logged

Nice try, but no.

Over the years you have created many "personalities", and you knew very well it wasn't allowed.

For example, here's a post you made under the Jake649 name, in which you criticized another member for doing it: http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/78621/160540

That was in December 2003.  You've had several accounts since then.  Here's a smattering, although not a complete list:

Lionel
Member Since:  April 14, 2002
Last Visited:  March 17, 2006

Jake649
Member Since:  November 2, 2003
Last Visited:  September 26, 2006

LottoGroups
Member Since:  March 19, 2006
Last Visited:  January 16, 2008

Mario38
Member Since:  December 27, 2008
Last Visited:  June 29, 2011

I think even you can see the overlap in time periods.  Even if you "changed jobs" or whatever, that certainly wouldn't necessitate the creation of multiple personalities simultaneously.  If you changed e-mail addresses, you would simply change the e-mail address on your account, not create a new one.

And if you could no longer access your old account, as you claim, it is very strange how you were able to login again anyway, even after you supposedly had to create a new account.  That's why I included the "Last Visited" information, which anyone can see simply by viewing your various personalities' profiles.

I only recognize one of the old accounts. The other accounts could have been held by other members of the groups. Some members of the groups were promoting the groups to increase the size and thereby increase the probability of winning. I also cannot verify the start and last visited dates.

When I changed email addresses and computer at the same time, I lost the ability to recover the old password.

Todd, you seem to have a vendetta against me. There have been a number of cases where you deleted my posts without so much as an explanation and other instances where you were overly critical.

I guess you see me as somehow in competition with you but I am not. I am not interested in starting a forum even though I maintain a lottery blog and have worked in the lottery industry for several years.

If you are trying to maintain the standards of the Lottery Post (and I assume you are), I think you have much bigger fish to fry.

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    Posted: June 29, 2011, 5:00 pm - IP Logged

    I only recognize one of the old accounts. The other accounts could have been held by other members of the groups. Some members of the groups were promoting the groups to increase the size and thereby increase the probability of winning. I also cannot verify the start and last visited dates.

    When I changed email addresses and computer at the same time, I lost the ability to recover the old password.

    Todd, you seem to have a vendetta against me. There have been a number of cases where you deleted my posts without so much as an explanation and other instances where you were overly critical.

    I guess you see me as somehow in competition with you but I am not. I am not interested in starting a forum even though I maintain a lottery blog and have worked in the lottery industry for several years.

    If you are trying to maintain the standards of the Lottery Post (and I assume you are), I think you have much bigger fish to fry.

    Oh, I see.  When presented with irrefutable evidence, simply change the focus to something else.  Now I have a "vendetta" and randomly delete your posts? 

    Do you think anyone is buying this? 

    I assure you I don't feel that you are providing competition in any way.  I just think it's best that people know exactly who they are dealing with, and what your motivations are.  Heck, if I ran an Internet pool website for Canada lottery games, I might also try to put down popular American lottery games.  But I don't have a dog in this hunt, so I just report the facts and let people make up their own minds.

     

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      Posted: June 29, 2011, 5:16 pm - IP Logged

      I only recognize one of the old accounts. The other accounts could have been held by other members of the groups. Some members of the groups were promoting the groups to increase the size and thereby increase the probability of winning. I also cannot verify the start and last visited dates.

      When I changed email addresses and computer at the same time, I lost the ability to recover the old password.

      Todd, you seem to have a vendetta against me. There have been a number of cases where you deleted my posts without so much as an explanation and other instances where you were overly critical.

      I guess you see me as somehow in competition with you but I am not. I am not interested in starting a forum even though I maintain a lottery blog and have worked in the lottery industry for several years.

      If you are trying to maintain the standards of the Lottery Post (and I assume you are), I think you have much bigger fish to fry.

      Wow, little guy.

      I'm really shocked that it turns out that you were the liar all along.

      (I had a funny feelin' you were Yes Nod)

      But you kept calling me the liar.

      And you expect people to send money out of the country to youLOLGreen laughLOL

      Next time remember that honesty is the best policy, twinkletoes.


                                                   
                           
                                               

       

       

       

       

                                                                                                         

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        Posted: June 29, 2011, 5:27 pm - IP Logged

        Wow, little guy.

        I'm really shocked that it turns out that you were the liar all along.

        (I had a funny feelin' you were Yes Nod)

        But you kept calling me the liar.

        And you expect people to send money out of the country to youLOLGreen laughLOL

        Next time remember that honesty is the best policy, twinkletoes.

        Now, now...are you fibbing? Or just being kind?

        Shocked?  I thought you were right on the money.

        It's against the rules to call me out is the same as no defense to an accusation


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          Posted: June 30, 2011, 12:45 am - IP Logged

          Oh, I see.  When presented with irrefutable evidence, simply change the focus to something else.  Now I have a "vendetta" and randomly delete your posts? 

          Do you think anyone is buying this? 

          I assure you I don't feel that you are providing competition in any way.  I just think it's best that people know exactly who they are dealing with, and what your motivations are.  Heck, if I ran an Internet pool website for Canada lottery games, I might also try to put down popular American lottery games.  But I don't have a dog in this hunt, so I just report the facts and let people make up their own minds.

          Sorry, but I do not see your evidence as irrefutable.

          I did not say you deleted random posts. It appeared the posts that were deleted were ones you did not agree with.

          My intention is not to put down games but simply compare games using expected value and mathematics. Remember, I play the US lotteries and have for many years.

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            Posted: June 30, 2011, 3:08 am - IP Logged

            wow they sure are creative for 223 games in some brain storm day long meetings am guesting lol

            and now its down to 4, will hopeful you have it out by 2015 lol.

             

             

            also the more i think about it, the more i like the idea of 2 bucks for a pb game if really helps the jackpot grow a lot faster.

            i made the mistake of rushing to judge pb changes, if your pb design math is right. and it makes PB grow a lot faster to 100m, 200m + range, i be quite happy with the change! as its more excited

             

            but i sure only being buying 1 ticket to its at lest  200m, my buy point just going up for getting more then 1 ticket lol

             

             

            but 1 more question, is it 50 cents, 55cents, 60 cents to the jackpot prize pool  with per each ticket buyed?

            the faq on your website,  said almust doubled, so what is spot on amount?

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              Posted: June 30, 2011, 10:07 am - IP Logged

              wow they sure are creative for 223 games in some brain storm day long meetings am guesting lol

              and now its down to 4, will hopeful you have it out by 2015 lol.

               

               

              also the more i think about it, the more i like the idea of 2 bucks for a pb game if really helps the jackpot grow a lot faster.

              i made the mistake of rushing to judge pb changes, if your pb design math is right. and it makes PB grow a lot faster to 100m, 200m + range, i be quite happy with the change! as its more excited

               

              but i sure only being buying 1 ticket to its at lest  200m, my buy point just going up for getting more then 1 ticket lol

               

               

              but 1 more question, is it 50 cents, 55cents, 60 cents to the jackpot prize pool  with per each ticket buyed?

              the faq on your website,  said almust doubled, so what is spot on amount?

              The current 59/39 game drops 32.5288 cents per play to the cash jackpot prize pool.  In the new 59/35 game, the contribution will be 63.9512 cents per play.  The $1 million second prize (Match 5) is funded with 19.4038 cents per play.  The third most expensive prize is the bottom one ($4 for Match 0+1), taking 7.2194 cents per play  The other six prize levels take up the rest of the prize pool.

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                Posted: June 30, 2011, 9:39 pm - IP Logged

                Increasing the price from $1 to $2 is going to present me with a problem.  Like I've posted about before, I run a lottery pool at work in which I collect $4 every 2 weeks from a group of 13 people including me, which allows me to buy 7 Powerball and 6 Lotto tickets for 4 drawings.  I'm not quite sure if I'm going to up the price, reduce the number of tickets I buy, or what.  Once I figure out the options, I'll take a vote of the membership and see which way they want to go. 

                I'll probably also have to temporarily quit buying multidraw tickets because they usually suspend multidraws when they change the matrix, which makes more work for me.  Not sure what I will do.

                Prisoner Six

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                  I thought I had heard it all,  They double the price of a ticket, drop the odds down to the mega millions

                  level and tell everyone what a good deal it is.  If you buy 2 tickets for Mega millions your odds are only 

                  1 in 87,855,786.  Half that of the new PB game. 

                  RL

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                  I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                  they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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                    Posted: July 1, 2011, 7:05 am - IP Logged

                    I can't let this go, years back MO. changed it's pick-5 from a 5-30 which paid $25,000 taxes paid

                    for a 5of5 win with 1 in 142506 odds.  The game changed to a 5-44 with odds of 1 in 1,086,008

                    1,086,008 / 142406 = 7.62.  What this means to me is that I have to buy over 7 tickets for the

                    new matrix to have the same chance as I did with the 5-30 game.    Did the prize levels increase

                    by a factor of 7, long story short, NO.

                    I called the lottery and asked the reason for the change, I was told that there would be more

                    winners.  My reply was "Are you really that Stupid or are you a natural born liar?"  Most people

                    who play the big games do it because of the big payouts and what they are really doing is forcing

                    everyone to use the powerplay option.  I hope this move kills off powerball because if it does not

                    then mega-millions will soon follow.  Who on earth other then the goverment needs $200,000,000.00

                    dollars anyway,  even though the JP will start at $40,000,000 it's cash value is only half that and the

                    goverment is going to take almost half of the half that you get.  If they really wanted to have a good

                    national game that would help out the economy then why not have a national pick-5 36 or something 

                    like Japan has.  I would rather spend a dollar on a 5-36 then buy a Powerball ticket for a penny.   They

                    have so many caught in the web of greed that no matter how much they charge people will pay it. 

                    RL

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                    I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                    they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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                      Posted: July 1, 2011, 10:15 pm - IP Logged

                      I thought I had heard it all,  They double the price of a ticket, drop the odds down to the mega millions

                      level and tell everyone what a good deal it is.  If you buy 2 tickets for Mega millions your odds are only 

                      1 in 87,855,786.  Half that of the new PB game. 

                      RL

                      Most states these days have both Powerball and MegaMillions, so I wonder if people in those states will just buy MegaMillions and not Powerball.  My state only has Powerball and no intentions to add MegaMillions, so I guess I'm stuck.

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                        Posted: July 2, 2011, 1:27 am - IP Logged

                        The current 59/39 game drops 32.5288 cents per play to the cash jackpot prize pool.  In the new 59/35 game, the contribution will be 63.9512 cents per play.  The $1 million second prize (Match 5) is funded with 19.4038 cents per play.  The third most expensive prize is the bottom one ($4 for Match 0+1), taking 7.2194 cents per play  The other six prize levels take up the rest of the prize pool.

                        So what am I missing here 32.5288 * 2 = 65.0576 and the new game is giving 63.9512, seems like your paying out less on the dollar.  Oh I forgot (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) there will be more second prize million dollar winners.  Good one.

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                          Posted: July 2, 2011, 8:46 pm - IP Logged

                          Wow, little guy.

                          I'm really shocked that it turns out that you were the liar all along.

                          (I had a funny feelin' you were Yes Nod)

                          But you kept calling me the liar.

                          And you expect people to send money out of the country to youLOLGreen laughLOL

                          Next time remember that honesty is the best policy, twinkletoes.

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                            Posted: July 2, 2011, 8:57 pm - IP Logged

                            I'm still going to play Powerball after it changes. What the heck......

                            I wanna win BIG-MONEY!!!!!!!!......well.....ok.......little-money is fine too.......... Hyper

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                              Posted: July 2, 2011, 9:42 pm - IP Logged

                              As it turns out, this transition is easiest for people like me who played Powerplay already.

                              I can understand the complaints of those who didn't play Powerplay because when all is said and done, what this looks like is everybody being forced to purchase Powerplay for the one million dollar 5+0 prize by including it in the price of the ticket.


                                                                           
                                                   
                                                                       

                               

                               

                               

                               

                                                                                                                                 

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