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Ohio man sues for share of $99M lottery jackpot

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Posted: September 5, 2011, 11:45 am - IP Logged

I am sorry but Lottery Pools are a bad idea. This keeps hapening over and over again.

 

You might think your cEvil Looking-workers are nice people, but when money is involved, they'll back stab you in a heartbeat.

 

Warning to all lottery pools out there, put whatever policy you come -up with in writing and get it notarized.

"You might think your co-workers are nice people, but when money is involved, they'll back stab you in a heartbeat."  Truer words were never spoken.   

But if you think your co-workers are bad when it comes to money being involved, your own family will backstab you when it comes down to money.  I was the executor of my late mother's estate. I saw first hand how money can do funny things to even your blood relatives.  And by 'blood relatives', I mean your brother(s) or sister(s).  I aint talkin' your in-laws here.  Anyway, those type of relatives ought to be called your "out-laws."

The atricle says the winners were "fond of" the guy who missed out.  Apparently they aint that fond of him.

People!  Wake up! The problem with most lottery pools is that they are poorly thought out and are mis-managed.  Yes, it's one helluva long shot that you'll win, but if you do win, you're going to be dealing with one helluva lot of MONEY.  Who do you know that conducts a financial transaction involving a very large amount of money without a lawyer being involved??  I'm not a lawyer, and I'm not real big on them either, but there were definitely times in my life when I needed a lawyer's services.  And those times where when a significant  amount of money was involved.

Be smart.  See an attorney and let him or her draw up an agreement for all of the members of your lottery pool. Split the attorneys fees amongst the members of the pool, and it wont be that painful. If I knew how to draw a contract like that up, I do it and sell it cheap on e-Bay.

About playing the lottery --  You will lose more than you win. Until you hit a jackpot.  Then everything changes!

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    Posted: September 5, 2011, 2:37 pm - IP Logged

    He didn't pay, tough luck for him. 22 people is alot of people to deal with. It wasnt like a 4 person lotto pool where people would be filthy rich.

    If he was a friend of mine I may give him money but the moment I found out he was trying to sue then he could kiss my butt.


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      Posted: September 6, 2011, 2:13 pm - IP Logged

      Bad idea. I have 32 coworkers that we usually pool when something is over $100M. I am always the one to collect, put in for missing people, make copies and play the tickets. I always have to put in $50 or $80 to cover people, and usually don't get paid back until the drawing is over and we had lost. So now I only play with 2 coworkers and we play all of the lottery games, same numbers, twice a day in PA for a week at a time. No more missing money and I rather split 3 ways than 32 ways. *I think though that the 22 people who won this jackpot should each give this dude maybe $25,000 each. That's over a half million and then they can all move on with their lives.

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        Posted: September 6, 2011, 2:50 pm - IP Logged

        Bad idea. I have 32 coworkers that we usually pool when something is over $100M. I am always the one to collect, put in for missing people, make copies and play the tickets. I always have to put in $50 or $80 to cover people, and usually don't get paid back until the drawing is over and we had lost. So now I only play with 2 coworkers and we play all of the lottery games, same numbers, twice a day in PA for a week at a time. No more missing money and I rather split 3 ways than 32 ways. *I think though that the 22 people who won this jackpot should each give this dude maybe $25,000 each. That's over a half million and then they can all move on with their lives.

        That all sounds fine until you consider there were other co-workers who contributed to the pool from time to time whenever they were around when someone was collecting money but didn't the month they won.  What about them?  The pool wasn't a unique group of co-workers, the rule seems to have been anyone who paid was in and anyone who didn't wasn't, no one was obligated to pay every month to be in it the next time around.

         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
           
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          Posted: September 6, 2011, 3:34 pm - IP Logged

          I'm sorry, however I would not give him anything do you know how many people will use this bogus excuse.

          He did not pool  for 3 months he is not entitled to any winnings even if he was out of work it would not have hurt

          him to contact someone in the group. The group in ny that won some months ago didn't have this issue when their co-worker did not want to

          play and they all won he just made a statement and said they are all good people. I won $100,000.00 7 yrs ago with a group and we almost had this same issue with a co-worker she had dropped

          out of the pool/group for 3 months and after we won she decided she wanted a piece. To be honest with you this guy

          has no solid proof the rules are generally the same with almost every group if you don't play you are not entitled to,

          any of the winnings.

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            Posted: September 6, 2011, 3:57 pm - IP Logged

            An employee of a Geauga County cabinetry company has sued 22 of his co-workers for denying him a share of a $99 million lottery jackpot.

            And, last week, a judge ordered the Ohio Lottery Commission to set aside about $2 million until Edward Hairston's claim is resolved in a trial.

            Hairston contends that every month for eight years he pitched $5 into a lottery pool with co-workers at the KraftMaid company in Middlefield. While recuperating from a back injury, however, he failed to make contributions for lottery drawings in June, July and August.

            Unfortunately for Hairston, the KraftMaid group picked the correct six numbers on a Mega Millions drawing on Aug. 5. After taxes and cash option costs, each member of the group stood to receive about $2 million.

            Hairston showed up the next day to claim a share of the winnings, according to the lawsuit, but was told he was no longer a part of the group. He had missed three months worth of payments, and the other members had kicked him out.

            "So, for a lack of $15, it cost him $2 million," said his lawyer, Howard Mishkind, who filed a lawsuit last month in Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court.

            The group's unwritten policy for years had been to cover for colleagues who were unable to make a monthly payment because of illness, vacation or other reasons, Mishkind said. The money would come from an account containing past winnings of smaller amounts.

            On one occasion, the group made payments on behalf of a missing member for five months while she was on medical leave, the lawyer said. Hairston also covered for an absent co-worker with money out of his own pocket.

            "I guess you can draw whatever conclusions you want to explain the defendants' motivation," Mishkind said. "Money sometimes has a way of changing a person."

            Kerin Lyn Kaminski, a lawyer representing the winners, said the decision by the group to deny Hairston a share was nothing personal. Most of them work in the same building, and in the same department, and are fond of Hairston, she said.

            Kaminski said the size of group varies from month-to-month, and that two people who participated in the pool in July didn't play in August when they won the jackpot — but didn't sue for a share.

            She denied that special provisions were made in the past for absentee members of the pool, or that emailed reminders were sent to other members but not to Hairston, as he claims in the lawsuit.

            "Put yourself in their position," Kaminiski said. "Everybody wishes everybody could win, but it doesn't always work out that way.

            "These people are the salt of the earth, and hardworking," she said. "I really like these people. Some of them had a hard time getting by. We should all be glad they won."

            Several of the winners already have quit their jobs at KitchenMaid, said Mishkind and Kaminski.

            Beverly Kaser, one of three winners from Garrettsville, and the only defendant who could be reached for this story, declined to talk on the advice of her lawyer. Other winners reside in Mentor, Chardon, Painesville, Middlefield, Burton and Aurora.

            Hairston, 39, of Youngstown, also declined to comment.

            His lawyer said he is married with a 10-year-old daughter. He has worked at KraftMaid for 14 years, most recently as a logistics agent. Now, he needs a walker to get around, but hopes to recover from his back problems to return to work.

            "He is doing what he believes, in principle, to be the right thing," Mishkind said. "It's not easy for him to stand up to these folks, especially when he intends to go back to work. But he feels he's not getting all that he is entitled to."

            In court last week, Judge Eileen T. Gallagher ordered the Lottery Commission to set aside 1/23rd of the Mega Millions jackpot, and to release the rest of the money — minus taxes and fees — to the 22 defendants in the lawsuit.

            They haven't received their winnings yet, but should within several days, lottery officials said.

            Gallagher scheduled a jury trial for Dec. 12 to decide Hairston's legal claim.

            Everyone in that lottery pool should feel very blessed to win this amount of money and it is obvious "lottery karma" played on part because the minute you don't play for whatever reason, is the very day you win big.  In my opinion, he should be able to share in the jackpot and receive the $2 million. I hope the courts will give it to him because I don't understand why they contributed for one of the other lottery players who missed playing and not for him.  It doesn't sound very fair,  if this was one of their polices in their lottery pool.

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              From the OP:

              Hairston contends that every month for eight years he pitched $5 into a lottery pool with co-workers at the KraftMaid company in Middlefield. While recuperating from a back injury, however, he failed to make contributions for lottery drawings in June, July and August.

              Unfortunately for Hairston, the KraftMaid group picked the correct six numbers on a Mega Millions drawing on Aug. 5. After taxes and cash option costs, each member of the group stood to receive about $2 million.

              Hairston showed up the next day to claim a share of the winnings, according to the lawsuit, but was told he was no longer a part of the group. He had missed three months worth of payments, and the other members had kicked him out.

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              Sure. He doesn't kick in for three months, they win a jackpot, and THEN he wants in.

              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

              Lep

              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                This guy doesn't deserve a penny. The way I see it, if you put money in for a drawing, you're in for THAT drawing. You want in next time? You gotta pay again. Pool membership is on a per drawing basis.

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                  Exactly, If this judge allows people to get money this way then I could complain about someone I dont know winning from the same machine ive been playing at by making the argument, "I've been buying numbers on this machine for the past 10years and  I should get part of that money."

                  It sucks for this guy but he did not pay for THREE months!, one month maybe he could have gotten away with but there were others who lost out as well.

                  What it comes down to is self intitlement(sp?)  and Im sure this guy wants everyone to throw him a pity party for his back injury.

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                    Posted: September 6, 2011, 9:34 pm - IP Logged

                    There have been more people that have quit lottery pools then are playing in them.  This guy seems to be one of the people who quit playing.  I'm guessing on the two months that he didn't pay, he didn't bother seeing what the "pools" numbers were for those drawings.  And it wasn't until the jackpot that he came forward.

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                      This guy doesn't deserve a penny. The way I see it, if you put money in for a drawing, you're in for THAT drawing. You want in next time? You gotta pay again. Pool membership is on a per drawing basis.

                      if you're gonna do pools this is the only way to go.call it the kiss system.

                      Kiss.

                      It.

                      Simple.

                      Stupid.

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                        "On one occasion, the group made payments on behalf of a missing member for five months while she was on medical leave, the lawyer said. Hairston also covered for an absent co-worker with money out of his own pocket. ...... She denied that special provisions were made in the past for absentee members of the pool, or that emailed reminders were sent to other members but not to Hairston, as he claims in the lawsuit."

                        Very shady behaviour on both sides but that's what money will do to some people.  Hairston should have made sure he paid the $5 every month so there would be no problem.  Why didn't he just contact someone in the group to make sure he was covered? 

                        Yep, as he told and you mentioned, those 5 months paid on behalf of another pool member previously, PLUS the monies that he paid previously for other pool members previously definitely make a good evidence for the Judge being forced to act as done, include him into 1/23 of the payment of the lump-sum payouts from the Ohio Lottery Headquarters!

                        Though, really, here is a man, knows it's his last day at work before 'sick-leave', he has pre-scheduled surgery and spoken with the surgeon; therefore knowing that he will be away from employer -- and possibly contact with coworker fellow lottery pool members for at least TWO MONTHS while mainly in bedrest at his home.  How simple it would have been to go to the lottery pool's money collector before his last day at work and give him two or three months worth of money (at least a measly $10 ... or ask to sign an IOU note for the mentioned "small wins reserves account" if he didn't have even $5)!  People are supposed to be playing in a pool EXPECTING to win, provisions were in order.

                        Ridiculous how a huge lottery pool can exist for multiple years and not have fixed, documented rules that were stamped by a notary public!

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                          just give the Guy something people...................DONT GET CURSED..............HE DIDNT CONTRIBUTE FOR THE MONTHS THAT THEY DIDNT HIT AND HE DIDNT COMPLAIN.........THREE MONTHS...COME ON PEOPLE BE REAL........THATS LIKE ME PLAYING THE LOTTERY FOR 20 YEARS AND MY NUMBER COMES OUT THE DAY I DECIDE NOT TO PLAY????? DO YOU THINK THE LOTTERY GONNA PAY ME?......THIS IS A MORAL ISSUE AND THE COURT WILL THROW IT OUT..ITS UP TO THE PEOPLE IN THE POOL...NOT THE COURT.Embarassed

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                            just give the Guy something people...................DONT GET CURSED..............HE DIDNT CONTRIBUTE FOR THE MONTHS THAT THEY DIDNT HIT AND HE DIDNT COMPLAIN.........THREE MONTHS...COME ON PEOPLE BE REAL........THATS LIKE ME PLAYING THE LOTTERY FOR 20 YEARS AND MY NUMBER COMES OUT THE DAY I DECIDE NOT TO PLAY????? DO YOU THINK THE LOTTERY GONNA PAY ME?......THIS IS A MORAL ISSUE AND THE COURT WILL THROW IT OUT..ITS UP TO THE PEOPLE IN THE POOL...NOT THE COURT.Embarassed

                            verrry well said .I Agree!

                            also theres a video outhere on aol about this and the attornity of the coworkers saying that the coworkers did ask him while he was out of work if he would like to play through that time and he clearly said no .

                            is a money game . moral of the story lotterypool sucks sss. best thing play individualy to prevent all these drama s

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                              It is now official...this twit heads story has been aired on MSNBC (the absolutely worst network).  I still stand by thought that this guy deserves not even a red cent.

                              Get MONEY!!! Winning a JACKPOT lottery is all the HOPE and CHANGE I desire!!!  NOW give me MONEY!US Flag

                              The guy who won the presidency in 2008 really won the lottery...he is now millions richer, travels in first class style, and even has a staff that would be the envy of the richest Powerball winner (she has a staff of 2). Every night he goes to sleep, he probably plays the close of Dave Chappelle's Show: I'm rich beyatch!