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Iowa Lottery security chief bent on determining identity of jackpot winner

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Posted: January 12, 2012, 6:08 am - IP Logged

THIS JUST IN!!!. The Iowa Lottery Commission became suspicious of Steve Bogle and hired a secret covert P.I. to track down his activities.

Turns out Bogle is the lone culprit who actually purchased the winning ticket.Red Devil


In further developments, Bogle was caught trying to escape into a crude recently invented time machine. Bogle confessed this was an effort to go back to the moment he had purchased the ticket, and substitute a friend who had no connection with the lottery to actually buy the ticket for him.

After questioning his "friend", it turns out he was actually an alien from the Andromeda Galaxy in the planetary system of Nebulous 5. The friends true name is difficult to pronounce in any human language, but roughly translates to "Zeqresyulkiskarpiquveerikrasketulis". NASA and Iowa lottery officials are seeking to deport him back to his home planet on the next Russian rocket mission scheduled for next month.

Bogle meanwhile has pleaded guilty to all charges, and also indicated he had undergone a gender change prior to enlisting in the military, and that his true name was Milissa Queeny. After careful consideration, based upon his flawless record in the past, the compassionate lottery commission decided to give only a 5 year probation to Queeny. Queeny became very emotional and tearfully thanked the commission for their great mercy and promised he would never ever buy a lotto ticket again in the State of Iowa. No Nod

Oogle........ Green laugh

Whoever said money can't buy happiness simply didn't know where to go shopping

    jarasan's avatar - new patrick.gif
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    Posted: January 12, 2012, 7:59 am - IP Logged

    yea,seems like he got an agenda.

    "i gonna show em im the man"

    thats how ya get a big $ contract.

    ? jarasan, tell us how do you see throught this stuff ?

    Just put yourself in the place of the winner.  I am sick and tired of people who have nothing better to do than this type of invasive self righteous crap.   Leave us the he!! alone all of you busy body  jerks! 


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      Posted: January 12, 2012, 8:55 am - IP Logged

      The lottery office needs to pay this person they are always suspicious about things i would've waited that long as well.

      Everybody don't have to publicize their name i feel like all states should give you the option as if you want to disclose your name, etc...

      You know I find this comment quite remarkable along with those induivuals that are of the same school of thought as well. We would all for the most part want to remain ANONYMOUS but can you imagine the conspiracy theories that would be spawn if people kept winning and 100 million losers not have a name or face to put to those winners???? Over time the game would lose credibility.


      I don't sweat the small stuff. When it comes to POWERBALL my only concern is WINNING. Take out taxes, have your anal rules. Taxing me on something I never had and hasn't reached my bank account yet would not cause me to lose sleep.

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        ekem6078's avatar - winter
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        Posted: January 12, 2012, 12:00 pm - IP Logged

        I Agree!   I think they were convinced that nobody was going to claim the jackpot and they had the idea that they could keep it.And then somebody threw a wrench into the works and had the odasity to claim it.Now they are scrambling around looking for loopholes so they don't have to pay up.At least that's my take on the situation.

        I Agree! totaly with you Cletu$2.  The Iowa lottery should pay the ticket regardless. Because they made the rules of how long you had to claim it, and whoever bought the ticket has a right to the $$$$$$ so Iowa Lottery get over the fact that you can't keep itThudSo pay up lol lol lol.

          gra8*2win's avatar - spherewall
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          Posted: January 12, 2012, 6:52 pm - IP Logged

          it said that the winner purchased the winning ticket with a debit card........i thought lottery was cash only.....some states allow debit cards?

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            Posted: January 12, 2012, 8:56 pm - IP Logged

            Who cares who won. NO way it was set up so let the trust claim it and it's done with. Nobody business anyways.

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              Posted: January 12, 2012, 10:46 pm - IP Logged

              You know I think Cletus is right.  I think this lottery agency and its security dept had plans for that money.  I demand an investigation of all executive, administrative,  and SECURITY management personnel immediately for the people of the great State of Iowa.   All salaries and benefits suspended until a third party investigation has been completed and concluded that there are no improprieties found.



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                Posted: January 13, 2012, 1:59 am - IP Logged

                Just put yourself in the place of the winner.  I am sick and tired of people who have nothing better to do than this type of invasive self righteous crap.   Leave us the he!! alone all of you busy body  jerks! 


                Hm.  Remember when being conservative in the US meant one believed this socially as well as fiscally?

                What happened?

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                  Posted: January 13, 2012, 7:49 am - IP Logged

                  Hm.  Remember when being conservative in the US meant one believed this socially as well as fiscally?

                  What happened?

                  Actually,  I believe all people used to mind their own business up until about the 1970's,  it didn't matter what affiliation one had with anything.....................Too much free time for progressives and a lazy electorate that votes on appearance and not substance.

                  So you get fuquefaces like this security jerk with too much free time on the job so he figures he is going to do this and make it look like he's working SOOOO REALLLLL hard.  What a pile of BS.  If I was in charge of the Iowa lottery I'd tell him back off or you're FIRED biachi.

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                    Posted: January 13, 2012, 9:19 am - IP Logged

                    Investigate Bogle !  Evil Looking

                      cbr$'s avatar - maren
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                      Posted: January 13, 2012, 3:32 pm - IP Logged

                      The mystery began on Thursday, Dec. 23, 2010. Time: 3:24 p.m. Scene: a QuikTrip, 4801 N.E. 14th St., near Interstate Highway 35/80 in Des Moines.

                      Somebody bought a Hot Lotto ticket there. Six days later, the ticket turned into a $16.5 million winner. Then the ticket went unclaimed for 364 days, 22 hours and 10 minutes.

                      At 2:10 p.m. on Dec. 29, two attorneys from the prominent Des Moines firm Davis, Brown, Koehn, Shors & Roberts PC presented the ticket, one hour and 50 minutes before it was to expire.

                      But the winner remains hidden.

                      The main person responsible for unraveling the mystery: an Army veteran and former police officer named Steve Bogle, Iowa Lottery vice president for security.

                      There is more at stake in this case than millions of dollars. The integrity of the Iowa Lottery is on the line. If anonymous, faceless trusts claim major prizes, it undermines public confidence and gives the impression of impropriety in the game, Bogle said.

                      "It doesn't work if people don't believe everybody has the same odds of winning," he said. "There is nothing to suggest anything improper has been done here, but we need to check every angle to know if the ticket was legally obtained, legally possessed and legally claimed."

                      The ticket was signed by Crawford Shaw of Bedford, N.Y. Shaw signed as trustee for Hexam Investments Trust. Shaw, 76, is also an attorney. He is not the winner. He represents the person or people who won. Shaw has said he plans to meet with Iowa Lottery officials this week.

                      "I think everything will be OK when all the facts are put on the table," Shaw said.

                      They'll have to be. If the person or persons behind the trust Shaw represents aren't known to lottery officials, they won't get paid.

                      "If we can't get that information, there is no way I can recommend to (Iowa Lottery CEO) Terry Rich that they pay this ticket," Bogle said.

                      So Bogle is both detective and honor guard in the strangest jackpot in the 26 years of Iowa Lottery history. He won't reveal the specific steps he's taking to verify the claim, but Bogle was a lawman for 36 years and has handled cases from murder to petty theft. He knows his way around an investigation.

                      Bogle 'a person who does things right'

                      Bogle joined the lottery in August 2011 after retiring as a brigadier general in the Iowa Army National Guard.

                      He knew he wanted to be a lawman in his early teens, in part from watching Jack Webb TV shows such as "Dragnet" and "Adam-12."

                      A 1975 East High School alumnus, Bogle joined the Guard at 17 and became an MP. Eventually, he became a Des Moines police officer. Then Bogle got mad at the Des Moines police department and wanted to quit. He can't remember what ticked him off.

                      "It shows how important it really was," Bogle said in retrospect. "The only thing I knew how to do was be a cop or a soldier. I decided I didn't want to be in that position ever again and got serious about my education."

                      He worked overnight shifts and went to school full time to earn a pre-law degree in 1986 from Grand View University, then called Grand View College. In the middle of his studies, he took a year to become a helicopter pilot for the Guard, flying rescue missions out of Fort Hood, Texas, and other locations.

                      After leaving the police force, he became director of the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation, the state's top criminal investigation agency.

                      Nobody is better suited to lead the investigation than Bogle, said Gene Meyer, Bogle's longtime friend and former director of the Iowa Department of Public Safety, which houses the investigation division.

                      "If you want something handled right and with great integrity, there is no question Steve will take care of it," Meyer said. "He is a person who does things right. He has great vision and he earns his opportunities."

                      Little made public about the winner

                      Even Bogle seems to be as puzzled as the public about the elusive winner.

                      "Like everyone else, I want to know where this ticket has been for the last year," Bogle said. "Basically, we start at the end — the day it was claimed — and work backward."

                      Large jackpots are generally claimed within a few days of announcement of the winning numbers. A prize of $600,000 went unclaimed in 1987, the largest sum left on the table in Iowa. Dozens of smaller prizes, as much as $250,000, have gone unclaimed.

                      Little has been made public about the person who bought the ticket. Iowa Lottery officials have reviewed store surveillance camera footage. They declined to identify the gender of the person or whether the individual paid with cash or debit card. (Credit cards may not be used to buy lottery tickets.)

                      The lottery has received dozens of claims the ticket was stolen. Such claims are common when big jackpots are awarded, officials said, though they plan to investigate the veracity of each claim. The alleged theft victims, however, all failed to sign the ticket. Under Iowa law, a lottery ticket is a "bearer instrument," which means the person who possesses the ticket owns it — unless the ticket is signed. Even the actual winner or winners never signed the ticket, instead delegating the task to Shaw as a trustee.

                      However, lottery officials are certain the ticket is genuine. They just don't know who bought it.

                      Principal players await parlor scene

                      The lottery player from December 2010 bought 10 plays over five Hot Lotto drawings for a total of $10. The player selected two sets of six numbers to be played in drawings on Dec. 25 and 29, 2010, and Jan. 1, 5 and 8, 2011.

                      The winning numbers were 3, 12, 16, 26, 33 and a Hotball of 11. The winner hit on the second of the five drawings on Dec. 29, 2010. At the time, the ticket was worth $16.5 million as an annuity payment.

                      That annuity pot has decreased because of the slumping stock market since the drawing. It is now worth a $14.3 million annuity. The one-time cash payment value of the ticket remains at about $10.8 million. The winner or winners have 60 days from claiming the prize to select cash or annuity payment.

                      But before that, the mystery must have a parlor scene — a literary term for the climax of crime novels where the true culprit, or in this case, lottery winner, is revealed.

                      Shaw says that's coming this week. Lottery officials say they're ready to meet when Shaw is.

                      "No lives are on the line here," Bogle said. "That's different than a lot of the cases in my career. This one, though, I think there's going to be a happy ending."

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                      who ever the winner is, they have gone to great lengths to remain anonymous. The Jackpot has been won. Respect their wishes to remain anonymous. If Steve Bogle is as good of a criminal investigater as everyone is claiming for getting to the bottom of thing. Maybe we should have, had him to investigate to Fannie Mae & Emuron. US Flag

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                        Posted: January 13, 2012, 6:21 pm - IP Logged

                        I'm confused, stack47, did you mean to type "lump-sum" amount rather than "annuity value" above?

                        Since so many months went by, I think that only the larger, listed 29-payments annuity amount is able to be collected.  Not eligible to receive the 1-payment lump-sum method anymore.


                        The annuity value is what the cash value will buy at the time of the drawing. While the cash value was sitting in the bank waiting for the winner, the annuity value dropped by $2.2 million. The cash value remains the same with the state keeping whatever interest was made. The winner still can decide either option but won't get the same annuity offered two weeks after the drawing.

                        All states have decided their security measures through legislation before paying off any jackpot winner, but the circumstances in Iowa are unusual to say the least and Bogle is probably using that to get his five minutes of fame.

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                          Posted: January 13, 2012, 6:53 pm - IP Logged

                          or of tax laws are more generous to  residents than non residents, or companies than individuals, then the state wants to know who to tax so it gets its fair share of the pot. id donesnt get to lknow this if it acceps a company as  claimant.

                          2014 = -1016; 2015= -1409; 2016  = -1171; 2017 = ?  TOT =  -3596

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                            Posted: January 13, 2012, 6:57 pm - IP Logged

                            Just put yourself in the place of the winner.  I am sick and tired of people who have nothing better to do than this type of invasive self righteous crap.   Leave us the he!! alone all of you busy body  jerks! 


                            yea' thats just what i want to do put myself in the place of the winner.

                            but not any winner that will have a hard time collecting.

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                              rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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                              Posted: January 13, 2012, 7:51 pm - IP Logged

                              i cant find the page to go  to to post play it again tickits

                              Here ya go sweetycue7: 


                              I got it from somebody else cuz you can't find it anywhere on their webpage.

                              They apparently don't want too many members.

                              And welcome to Lottery Post.

                              Best of luck to ya!