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Lottery leaders convene in D.C. to discuss future of games

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No, I didn't hear it mentioned once.

You have to understand, most of what is discussed when lottery personnel get together is related to marketing, ads, and sales. Frankly, those are the biggest topics of discussion when executives from any industry get together, so there is no surprise.

What I tried to do with this writeup is to pull out the parts that I thought crossed over into topics of interest to lottery players, or that would somehow impact lottery players.  There were lots of other topics discussed that would be perhaps less interesting to lottery players.

I think it would definitely help the lotteries to have some way to accept and answer feedback and questions from lottery players at a conference like this. 

Imagine if La Fleur's would provide a 30 minute segment for me to be able to address the attendees and do a reverse question and answer — I would come with a bundle of questions for the attendees, and they would provide answers I could take back to you all.

Now that I have gotten an idea for how the conference works, maybe I could work to include something like that in the future -- who knows?  I know that La Fleur's does a web feed for a certain number of participants, why not do a UStream feed during the segment?

I personally think it would provide a huge PR bump for the lotteries, demonstrating that they care deeply about the issues players care about, and are willing and open to answering the hard questions.

Thank you for the response.

Although I think the anonymity issue is one not everyone agrees with but I have seen the actions of hate and jealousy, stalking just the beginning and the least of it.  Not lottery related, the end result is the same.

A feedback and/or a q & a would be great!

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     Clearly they're smoking california grade dope with comments like this.."The target price for a new national premium game ticket?  Probably $5. ...

     Most will never win with $1....most will never win with $2.I can't imagine anything that could justify that price.

    For$5 that ticket had better tell jokes or take me out to dinner  lol

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       Clearly they're smoking california grade dope with comments like this.."The target price for a new national premium game ticket?  Probably $5. ...

       Most will never win with $1....most will never win with $2.I can't imagine anything that could justify that price.

      For$5 that ticket had better tell jokes or take me out to dinner  lol

      I agree 100%

       

      Unless the jackpots are starting at 100m and rolling over by a minimum of 25m and even then I won't jump on the bandwagon until it climbs to 1billion!

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         Clearly they're smoking california grade dope with comments like this.."The target price for a new national premium game ticket?  Probably $5. ...

         Most will never win with $1....most will never win with $2.I can't imagine anything that could justify that price.

        For$5 that ticket had better tell jokes or take me out to dinner  lol

        You're still thinking about this in terms of a big jackpot game.  When you start to think of it as some kind of jazzed-up scratch game, you're more in the zone.  And when there are multiple ways to play the game beyond a simple scratch, you're getting warmer.

        Lots of people drop $5 (or more) on a scratch ticket all the time.  When you think of a national premium game like this, it starts to make sense.

        Most importantly:  certainly start to weigh the pros and cons, but take everything thus far with a grain of salt, realizing that we only know a slice of what's to come.

         

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          I think that the lottery should have a once ayear free drawing for the people who lost a lot of money like me. or do the two days lottery, like sometiime ago. When your number have two days to hit, like 123 on the 28,29. or when people play there lottery there should be a plys under the number you are playing which you can make a pick three or pick four, for ex;238 added 01. with that 01 i will play 019, and 0101, or it could just be a leading number,my number 238,add number 1, i will play 111 and 1111.


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            I think that the lottery should have a once ayear free drawing for the people who lost a lot of money like me. or do the two days lottery, like sometiime ago. When your number have two days to hit, like 123 on the 28,29. or when people play there lottery there should be a plys under the number you are playing which you can make a pick three or pick four, for ex;238 added 01. with that 01 i will play 019, and 0101, or it could just be a leading number,my number 238,add number 1, i will play 111 and 1111.

            That sounds reasonable.    Stooges    For those who lose a lot of money, there should be a separate lottery that guarantees that any number

            you play will automatically be a jackpot winner of at least $5,000,000. This would go a long ways toward soothing those big money losing blues.

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              Other countries have no problem I know of online, why don't the lottery directors look at Au. UK. etc.

              The states should stay out of gaming, we don't need gambling games with a 50% return.

              Having experienced the Florida lottery online Monopoly game, all the bells and whistles don't make a game fun when no skill is involved when each choice has a predetermined result, same thing killed the Florida lottery game tv show, wasn't fun watching players go through their meaningless motions.

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                Other countries have no problem I know of online, why don't the lottery directors look at Au. UK. etc.

                The states should stay out of gaming, we don't need gambling games with a 50% return.

                Having experienced the Florida lottery online Monopoly game, all the bells and whistles don't make a game fun when no skill is involved when each choice has a predetermined result, same thing killed the Florida lottery game tv show, wasn't fun watching players go through their meaningless motions.

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                The state lotteries are most certainly looking at the experiences and lessons learned from other countries.  In fact, an exec from Camelot was at the conference and fairly vocal during Q&A sessions.  Other countries' experiences were mentioned several times during the presentations.

                I think your comment about other countries having "no problem" being online is not true, and not really applicable to the USA, which has completely different political and legal issues from other countries.

                Also, I think your comment about a 50% take in iGaming is incorrectly taking the current lottery model and assuming it is how iGaming will be done.  Any type of traditional gambling involves larger wagers and lower margins.  Just because the states will run the gambling enterprise does not mean that model will change.  It's more of an issue of whether or not the states can handle the liquidity necessary to run the games.  I personally think they will figure it out.

                Keep in mind, I'm not taking any sides here, I just want to be sure that CORRECT information is being disseminated during this period of rapid change.  That is one of the main reasons I felt it was important to attend the conference.  The next couple of years will see lots of changes, and good communication is vital in order for players to be critical of the lotteries where it is deserved, but encouraging of the lotteries in the areas where they are doing a good job.  That way, we'll all end up with better games.

                 

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                  The state lotteries are most certainly looking at the experiences and lessons learned from other countries.  In fact, an exec from Camelot was at the conference and fairly vocal during Q&A sessions.  Other countries' experiences were mentioned several times during the presentations.

                  I think your comment about other countries having "no problem" being online is not true, and not really applicable to the USA, which has completely different political and legal issues from other countries.

                  Also, I think your comment about a 50% take in iGaming is incorrectly taking the current lottery model and assuming it is how iGaming will be done.  Any type of traditional gambling involves larger wagers and lower margins.  Just because the states will run the gambling enterprise does not mean that model will change.  It's more of an issue of whether or not the states can handle the liquidity necessary to run the games.  I personally think they will figure it out.

                  Keep in mind, I'm not taking any sides here, I just want to be sure that CORRECT information is being disseminated during this period of rapid change.  That is one of the main reasons I felt it was important to attend the conference.  The next couple of years will see lots of changes, and good communication is vital in order for players to be critical of the lotteries where it is deserved, but encouraging of the lotteries in the areas where they are doing a good job.  That way, we'll all end up with better games.

                  has it ever been remotely brought up for americans to play other american states lotteryies?...P3 in Particular?

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                    Posted: April 28, 2012, 1:08 pm - IP Logged

                    I bought my initial lottery product during the early 1960s While visiting my wife's Canadian home place.

                    For $20 Canadian, I purchased a small package containing 3 games - scratch off, match ticket number and
                    combination for a Pick 6/49 lottery game.

                    The prizes were, to me at the time, astronomical.

                    An exact ticket number match paid $1 million. There were numerous lower level prizes, $500,000,
                    for matching fewer numbers.

                    The top prize for matching the lotto combination was $5 million. There were 3 winners.

                    The game was played twice per year, including New Years Day when a lot of folks won a ton of money.

                    If memory serves, it was a National game. All the prizes, which were programmed in advance, were guranteed.

                    I matched 3 symbols and won $25!

                    I never found a 'match number winner' list. Could be I won something but didn't know it.

                    Being deployed, I relied on my wife's family to check my 6/49 combination. No winner.

                    In my humble opinion, the next National 'Premium Game' will be a high priced packet containing
                    3 or more individual games with some high level prizes.

                    I'm guessing the package price will be $25 or higher.

                    There could be two game issues, maybe July 4th and New years Day.

                    Individual states would get 50 percent of sales.

                    Since the packages would be on advance sale for many months prior to the lotto drawing, it would probably
                    be a sell out.

                    One major problem I see for Texas is that the 'match ticket number' game could be considered a raffle, which
                    is illegal in Texas.

                    No reason the package couldn't include any of the current on-line games, including some form of Keno.

                    The sky is the limit.

                    I say - bring it on!

                    We need something new and different.!

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                      has it ever been remotely brought up for americans to play other american states lotteryies?...P3 in Particular?

                      No, that's something they would probably never allow.  Of course, anything is possible, but everything I heard was that players from within a state could play games inside that state, and that protections would be put in place to be sure that was the case.

                      But good question.

                       

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                        Thanks for this interesting article, Todd.  I hope that they would at least let you e-mail them a list of questions and then e-mail you back the answers; giving you the opportunity to ask deeper if they misunderstood or didn't fully answer a particular question.

                        With yesterday evening's Powerball win, I noticed that all 5 of their winning jackpot tickets this year have been sold from the East Coast.  Despair for we Midwestern state buyers!!!

                        Thinking of...

                        Ding Cuckoo, I did not know that Kansas & Illinois were on the East Coast! YIKES!

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                          Thanks for this interesting article, Todd.  I hope that they would at least let you e-mail them a list of questions and then e-mail you back the answers; giving you the opportunity to ask deeper if they misunderstood or didn't fully answer a particular question.

                          With yesterday evening's Powerball win, I noticed that all 5 of their winning jackpot tickets this year have been sold from the East Coast.  Despair for we Midwestern state buyers!!!

                          Thinking of...

                          The Land: The east coast of the United States of America (USA) is comprised of the 17 States and the nation's capital. It is generally grouped into the regions:

                          • New England: Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Vermont
                          • Middle Atlantic: New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania
                          • South Atlantic: Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia.

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                            Guess the topic of winners claiming prizes anonmymously never came up?

                            They should address the ethical failing of those states that pre-draw until they find numbers that will pull the least $ in prizes, then declare THAT draw the official draw!  Either close it to bets like NY or go with pot sharing like NJ

                            Seems so simple: three digits, 168 to one odds when boxed... all you have to do is pick the right ones!

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                              Why are they "holding & waiting" to see how it goes on the internet? To me, it's idiotic not to.  I don't understand what is holding them back. What am I not understanding about this?

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