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Illinois Lottery adds new feature to numbers games

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Posted: September 8, 2013, 12:53 am - IP Logged

I'll start by admitting it's a very small sample size but after one week of Fireball for the Pick Four a number has come in five out of fourteen draws.   (Pick 3's Fireball has come in nine of fourteen times but I don't play that.)   My usual numbers were 8037 (ironically one off tonight and the Fireball wouldn't have helped) and I was playing a dollar box and a dollar straight every drawing.   This added up to $28 per week and if I were still playing and also now adding Fireball that would bring it to $56 per week, $224 per month and $2,688 per year.   That said I would have to hit my combination in box every month just to lose $288 per year.   Even if it hit straight it's $3,500 after taxes making me a whopping $812.  It's not worth it whatsoever.   If you were guaranteed a number would hit every night, like it should be, it still wouldn't be worth it.   I know it's a matter of time before they start doing promotions removing some of the blue balls for a week or two. 

The poster who said there will come a time when the lottery starts putting up prop plays such as totals of your numbers, first and last numbers and nonsense like that was 100% right.   A perfect example is EZ Match which I saw in Florida first before it came to Illinois, I was stunned.

It still amazes me that I have to illegally play poker online for money yet I can go to my corner store and buy thirty dollar scratch off or risk money on gimmics like Fireball and the even worse MY3.

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    Before Northstar moved Lotto to Thursday, the biggest things going in Illinois on Thursday and Sundays nights was Lucky Day Lotto, $100,000 progressive.

    Now that Lotto is on Monday, Thursday, and Satruday I'm thinking Northstar is going to come up with some kind of Sunday game that offers more than a $100,000 progressive.

    And not long after it comes out Northstar will have an option to turn another $1 game to a $2 game.

    Hi Northstar, we know you're reading this thread.

    See Ya!

    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

    Lep

    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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      Posted: September 8, 2013, 11:59 am - IP Logged

      I don't think it fair if you play additional money for a fireball and there is not a fireball drawn I don't think this will go well with the p3 and p4. They should set a certain day for the fire balls because you just wasted another dollar and there was no fireball drawn.

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        Posted: September 10, 2013, 1:46 am - IP Logged

        I'll try an experiment on the ILL. predictions board by using ten lines with a 2if3 guarantee for the next 25 drawings and check the Fireball results.

        Quick update, after 6 drawings no straight wins and no box wins, had I played box instead of using the Fireball option. In 3 of the drawings I matched two digits in the correct digit position, but struck out matching the Fireball number. So far it's obviously no worse than by using Fireball than a box bet.

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          Quick update, after 6 drawings no straight wins and no box wins, had I played box instead of using the Fireball option. In 3 of the drawings I matched two digits in the correct digit position, but struck out matching the Fireball number. So far it's obviously no worse than by using Fireball than a box bet.

          I hate to burst you guys bubble this is what i think about the current situation with fireball it is not on fire yet .The only way the state of illinios can make fireball hot is to throw all the blue balls or blank balls into the trash where they belong and at the same time change the pay out of fireball to be based on available fund. This way the lottery bank is protected and players can win more money if less people get it right or less money is lots of people get the fireball. This way there is excitement and no zunk draw and everybody happy. So for now fireball is not hot what is hot now is texas lottery they had there first four draws per day yesterday. they had morning draw, afternoon draw , evenning draw and night draw on cash3 and cash4 that is awsome am on my way to texas now will update you all if i win. The draw for cash3 yesterday texas are in order of draw cash3  was 398 , 364 , 362 , 617  and cash4 was 3408 , 5058 , 5448 ,4940  great l guess everything is really bigger in texas.

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            Posted: September 10, 2013, 6:57 pm - IP Logged

            JoeBigLotto,

            Re: The Illinois Fireball, Northstar (now runs the IL lottery) is making these change to increase revenue for the lottery and Northstar. You're thinking like a player, of course, but they are thinking from their end foremost. Thus what you call the 'zunk" draws.......the whole fireball idea, truth be known, was built around the 'zunk' draw.

            Every blank fireball is another $1 for Northstar, pure gravy.

            Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

            Lep

            There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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              Posted: September 11, 2013, 1:03 am - IP Logged

              I hate to burst you guys bubble this is what i think about the current situation with fireball it is not on fire yet .The only way the state of illinios can make fireball hot is to throw all the blue balls or blank balls into the trash where they belong and at the same time change the pay out of fireball to be based on available fund. This way the lottery bank is protected and players can win more money if less people get it right or less money is lots of people get the fireball. This way there is excitement and no zunk draw and everybody happy. So for now fireball is not hot what is hot now is texas lottery they had there first four draws per day yesterday. they had morning draw, afternoon draw , evenning draw and night draw on cash3 and cash4 that is awsome am on my way to texas now will update you all if i win. The draw for cash3 yesterday texas are in order of draw cash3  was 398 , 364 , 362 , 617  and cash4 was 3408 , 5058 , 5448 ,4940  great l guess everything is really bigger in texas.

              The experiment I'm trying is a good example. I hit straight with a 3 out of 20 chance of matching one of the digits and missed. After 8 draws, using Fireball as the back-up instead of box is minus $40.

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                Posted: September 11, 2013, 1:13 am - IP Logged

                JoeBigLotto,

                Re: The Illinois Fireball, Northstar (now runs the IL lottery) is making these change to increase revenue for the lottery and Northstar. You're thinking like a player, of course, but they are thinking from their end foremost. Thus what you call the 'zunk" draws.......the whole fireball idea, truth be known, was built around the 'zunk' draw.

                Every blank fireball is another $1 for Northstar, pure gravy.

                It's difficult to figure the overall house edge on Fireball because winning is based on matching at least two of the drawn numbers. There are more winning scenarios with different odds. Match all three different digits gives a 15% chance and matching two is a 5% chance. Match three double digits gives 5% chance of winning once or twice. Matching a triple gets a 5% chance of winning three times.

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                  Posted: September 13, 2013, 1:52 am - IP Logged

                  I don't think it fair if you play additional money for a fireball and there is not a fireball drawn I don't think this will go well with the p3 and p4. They should set a certain day for the fire balls because you just wasted another dollar and there was no fireball drawn.

                  My experimental ten lines matched two digits in both drawings, missed the Fireball in the midday and the evening draw was a blank. I'm not sure yet if it's a bad bet compared to boxing the straight number for the same cost as Fireball. On the one drawing I matched straight, I had a 15% chance of getting another straight payoff compared to the box payoff.

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                    Posted: September 19, 2013, 7:31 am - IP Logged

                    I will give one a try, it looks appealing to me so I might as well give it a shot. I might win the jackpot prize here. These days there are more and more interesting games to play. I am having a hard time which one to choose. I have to focus more on my games.