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Illinois Lottery kicks off new 'Hit or Miss' game

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Posted: September 22, 2013, 7:51 pm - IP Logged

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By Todd Northrop

For Illinois Lottery players one thing is certain: they would be hard-pressed to claim their lottery is boring.

After a string of game changes and new games that stretches back a year to when the My3 game was introduced, the Illinois Lottery is today revealing its latest new game:  Hit or Miss.

The new game is nearly identical to a Texas Lottery game called All or Nothing, in which players choose 12 numbers out of a pool of 24, and prizes are determined by how many — or how few — of those numbers match the 12 numbers drawn.

Like the Texas game, Hit or Miss will be drawn four times per day — the first Illinois Lottery game with so many daily drawings.

Will Illinois expand to four daily drawings for its other daily games like Pick 3 and Pick 4?  It's possible, since that's exactly what Texas recently did.

The biggest difference between the Texas game and Illinois' latest addition is that Hit or Miss includes an additional number drawn, called The Good Life Number.  It is a number between 1 and 5 that is drawn along with the regular 12 numbers, and it comes into play only for those who match all or none of the numbers drawn.  If such a winner also matches The Good Life Number they win an extra prize of $100,000 per year for 20 years.

The Good Life Number is randomly generated and automatically printed on each ticket for no additional cost.

Tickets cost $2 each, and players can purchase up to 24 drawings in advance.

The first drawing of Hit or Miss is Sunday, September 22, 2013, at 10:30 am.  Drawings are held four times per day, at 10:30 am ("Morning"), 12:40 pm ("Midday"), 6:30 pm ("Drive Time"), and 9:22 pm ("Evening").

How to Win

There are 12 different ways to win a prize in Hit or Miss, as shown is the prize table below.

Hit or Miss Prize Table

One mistake Illinois was careful to avoid was the potential for many winners to "break the bank" when a popular set of numbers hits.

When the Texas Lottery started their All or Nothing game, they did not include a cap on the amount of prize money that could be awarded in a single drawing.  Although this was never actually an issue, the Texas Lottery ended up shutting down the game for several months while they ammended the rules to include a prize cap for unusual circumstances.  (See Texas Lottery suspends sales for 'All or Nothing' game, Lottery Post, June 4, 2013.)

When creating the rules for its Hit or Miss game, the Illinois Lottery included provisions for large numbers of winners in a single draw, by capping the top-prize liability at $5,000,000 per drawing, and imposing similar caps for other prize levels.  It is possible, perhaps probable, that these caps will never come into play, but in case they do, they will prevent the lottery from being wrecked financially.

As with all other Illinois Lottery games, the results for Hit or Miss will be published after each drawing on Lottery Post's Illinois Lottery Results page.  Unlike other lottery Web sites and apps, Lottery Post also includes a full prize payout chart for each drawing, as well as the ability to display past drawing results and other game details for every game.

VIDEO: How to play Hit or Miss

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I like this type of game. Plan on trying this in person in a few weeks. only problem I have with any of the games is they need to extend the length of draw days. Without being a on-line bettor. Other then the big games "Megaball" & " Powerball" . None offer a full month of play time or more. I would love to just walk- in and purchase my tickets on a daily game at 45- 60 day. I don't get to this area but every 3- 4 months. I wish the lotteries of a lot of states will consider that as a option in some states.   Party12 of 24 balls "Let the game begin''.

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    Posted: September 22, 2013, 8:44 pm - IP Logged

    If you play 24 draws a week on this game you will win back about 25-40% of what you bet, unless you hit the $500 in Tx ($250 in IL) or better. Obviously, that's a rare occurance. In just about every draw here, there are anywhere from 1 to maybe 4 $500 winners, sometimes none. I do best just playing 2 or 3 times a week. And yes, most of the time you will have 5,6 or 7 numbers which pay nothing. That's how the game is set up.

    The biggest thing about this game besides the jackpot compared to the odds is the overall odds of winning at least your $2 back are pretty good compared to most other draw games. For me, I play this game like the other jackpot games, not a daily game like P3 or D4. Every once in a while I'll play the same numbers twice on the same draw trying to win $500,000.

    The overall chances of winning something in both games is 22% so players can expect to have 1 winning ticket out of every 5. IMO, the problem is with the game is not the quantity of wins, but the quality of wins. I predict 20 All or Nothing lines in all four drawings every day and because my ID is at the bottom of the list, I see all the other All or Nothing predictors' results. The majority of the wins are $2 with several $10 winners, but very few $50 winners.

    When you compare this game with some of the other similar jackpot games, it's probably a better overall bet because of the overall odds of winning something. The difference comparing the Texas game to the Illinois game is the Illinois players are giving up part of all but one of the secondary prize payoffs to get a 1 in 5 chance if they win a jackpot to increase that prize. Personally I would rather win more on the secondary prizes to get more chances to win that one jackpot and without overcoming another 5 to 1 odds.

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      Posted: September 23, 2013, 12:54 am - IP Logged

      rcbuckeye,

      "And yes, most of the time you will have 5,6 or 7 numbers which pay nothing. That's how the game is set up."

      Yeah, I know that's how it's set up, I just consider real bush league of Northstar (the compnay that runs the Illinois lottery for those of you who didn't know it) to omit the zero payout hits from the chart, to make it appear everything wins. I wonder how many clerks have had to point that pout to players already. "No sir, you hit 5, see, there's no payout." "WHAT?"

      I guess since we're in an era of uninformed voters the lotteries are going after uninformed players.

      Here's another cute little trick from Northstar - the jackpot for the next midday Pick 5 is $500,000. They've added "Ez Match:" to this game - an extra dollar gets an extra set of numbers right then and there- and if one of your numbers on your ticket matches an Ez Match number you win $1 to $500. The odds against winning $500 are 210,000 to 1. Let's see, would you want to throw the extra dollar at the possible $500 or the possible $500,000? It's basically an insult to a player's intelligence.

      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

      Lep

      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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        rcbuckeye,

        "And yes, most of the time you will have 5,6 or 7 numbers which pay nothing. That's how the game is set up."

        Yeah, I know that's how it's set up, I just consider real bush league of Northstar (the compnay that runs the Illinois lottery for those of you who didn't know it) to omit the zero payout hits from the chart, to make it appear everything wins. I wonder how many clerks have had to point that pout to players already. "No sir, you hit 5, see, there's no payout." "WHAT?"

        I guess since we're in an era of uninformed voters the lotteries are going after uninformed players.

        Here's another cute little trick from Northstar - the jackpot for the next midday Pick 5 is $500,000. They've added "Ez Match:" to this game - an extra dollar gets an extra set of numbers right then and there- and if one of your numbers on your ticket matches an Ez Match number you win $1 to $500. The odds against winning $500 are 210,000 to 1. Let's see, would you want to throw the extra dollar at the possible $500 or the possible $500,000? It's basically an insult to a player's intelligence.

        In re omitting zero payout for Hit and Miss, Texas does the same thing for AoN. And they're not run privately. However, the payout chart does have a gap so it draws your attention to the disconnect. I think once Illinois gets enough complaints they might insert some space too. lol

        If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the potential payoff does.
        If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

        2016: -48.28% (13 tickets) ||
        P&L % = Total Win($)/Total Wager($) - 1

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          LottoMetro,

          I certainly hope the Illinois lottery gets enough complaints but the only game I've ever seen go by the wayside was a scratcher they had in Spanish format called Loteria. The objects to be scratcher were beans and it was very confusing. A local gas station owner told the lottery guy to keep them, he didn't want them in his store - caused too many questions.

          Stack mentioned 'back in the day' when the stated offered Pick 3 and 4, lotto, and scratchers. Heck, I feel for Todd as so much has been added to the Illinois lottery results right here on LP it has to be more tedious putting it all up. Also, Illinois has an in state 800 number to call for jackpots and results. It used to be you could get all the past results you wanted, now they'll give you about two days worth and then a recording clicks in, "We're sorry, it looks like you've used up your time for this call."

          Maybe I'm so what of a purist or something, but the KISS rule would be nice. That and if it ain't broke don't try anfd fix it.

          As someone here on LP mentioned, Northstar hasn't delivered on the promises it made to make more money for the state so now they're trying to milk more out of the players.

          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

          Lep

          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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            Coin,

            When AON came out I researched it so I knew what the game was about. I guess there are a lot of people out there that don't bother and it would be easy to think you can't lose on that game.

            As to Pick 5, that is pretty tricky. But they count on people not thinking about the odds and payouts. Again, trying to add on $1 is how today's lottery commissions are hoping to make more money.

            CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN

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              Posted: September 24, 2013, 12:29 am - IP Logged

              This is from the How To Play Hit or Miss side of the information slip, no one has mentioned this yet:

              The Hit or Miss Grand Prize and The Good Life Number Prize are subject to prize liability caps.

              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

              Lep

              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.


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                Posted: September 24, 2013, 10:21 pm - IP Logged

                Does anyone know what the payback percentage on this game is? Is it 50%?

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                  Posted: September 24, 2013, 10:26 pm - IP Logged

                  This is from the How To Play Hit or Miss side of the information slip, no one has mentioned this yet:

                  The Hit or Miss Grand Prize and The Good Life Number Prize are subject to prize liability caps.

                  Did you not read the news story?

                   

                  Check the State Lottery Report Card
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                  Sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings
                  Help eliminate computerized drawings!

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                    Sorry, Todd, I meant to say that part hasn't been discussed in the thread.

                    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                    Lep

                    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                      Posted: October 3, 2013, 7:38 pm - IP Logged

                      Of all the Illinois draw games this one is really the pits. The overall odds of winning anything being 1:4.54 sound good but it's a trap.

                      Usiing these numbers to test against it everyday, the highest payout would have been $5, and that only happened once. There were a few $2 hits, but for the most part, just as it's designed to do, the average result was 5, 6, or 7 hits, which pays nothing.

                      I used 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, just to make it easy to remember.

                      Try with any set of 12 numbers and you'll get the same results.

                      Help Governor Quinn tip the waitress when he has lunch, play Hit or Miss!

                      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                      Lep

                      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                        Don't have any idea on %.   But here are some of the IL Hit / Miss results you might want to look at.............................................

                        2013-10-03Eve2345610111315161922
                        2013-09-30Mor2456810111315161721
                        2013-10-04Mor2456811131415161920
                        2013-09-23Mor13471011131516192022
                        2013-09-28Mid2678910111315162021

                         Good Luck & Best Wishes

                        Here's two drawings that matched 10 of 12

                         

                        2013-09-27Mor12457891013142021
                        2013-10-02Eve12457891013141824
                        2013-10-01Mor134789131417202124
                        2013-09-28Eve13567891011131420
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                          This is exiciting! Players have a new game to try. I will  try this game too.  I hope to win the good life number, with no additional cost you have a chance to win $100,000 per year for 20 years, that is really something. I will win in this game!