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Illinois Lottery mulling changes to drawings

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Posted: April 17, 2014, 10:03 am - IP Logged

4/17/14 Thursday,

In this world of change , some things never change, people's constant attempts to improve. No one has improved on the invention of the wheel but wheels 

are nothing like their original design. Now they come with motorized attachments to make us fly through time, with all kinds of modern accoutrements. 

The wheel of fortune will still spin for us lottery players whether they be in Illinois or any other state .

Wink Let's hope the "powers that be" don't kill the goose that lays their golden eggs. Wink

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    When MM went to the 75 number matrix I said I was going to swear off of it but now I think I trust MM and PB much more than the Illinois draw games.

    When we did get the drawings on WGNA (Downstate we're on national feed (as someone here pointed out) there were plenty of times that the machine malfunctioned and there was a notice on the screen:

    Due to technical difficulties the results will be shown later on in the broadcast.

    Northstar cares more about promoting the lottery and marketing the lottery to increase revenue than doing anything to improve the lottery.

    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

    Lep

    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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      Posted: April 18, 2014, 12:29 pm - IP Logged

      When MM went to the 75 number matrix I said I was going to swear off of it but now I think I trust MM and PB much more than the Illinois draw games.

      When we did get the drawings on WGNA (Downstate we're on national feed (as someone here pointed out) there were plenty of times that the machine malfunctioned and there was a notice on the screen:

      Due to technical difficulties the results will be shown later on in the broadcast.

      Northstar cares more about promoting the lottery and marketing the lottery to increase revenue than doing anything to improve the lottery.

      "Don't worry 'bout nuttin', we'll tell ya what da results were later."

      Yeah, ok.

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        Posted: April 21, 2014, 4:11 pm - IP Logged

        When MM went to the 75 number matrix I said I was going to swear off of it but now I think I trust MM and PB much more than the Illinois draw games.

        When we did get the drawings on WGNA (Downstate we're on national feed (as someone here pointed out) there were plenty of times that the machine malfunctioned and there was a notice on the screen:

        Due to technical difficulties the results will be shown later on in the broadcast.

        Northstar cares more about promoting the lottery and marketing the lottery to increase revenue than doing anything to improve the lottery.

        wow, suspect data...

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          Posted: April 22, 2014, 9:40 am - IP Logged

          The NJ Lottery broadcasts its evening drawings live on TV, and all drawings are broadcast live on the Internet.  No computerized drawings here.  Maybe that's why the games continue to be so popular in the state.

          I disagree with you about the probability that moving to computerized drawings would not harm sales in Illinois.  Computerized drawings are horrendous, and many people (including myself) are far less inclined to play when they are used.  Perhaps you are not aware that Indiana switched from computers to real drawings for all numbers games because of the general outrage that existed for so long over the computerized drawings.

          Lottery quick picks are chosen from random numbers generators.

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            Posted: April 22, 2014, 9:47 am - IP Logged

            You guys think the balls are better blah the numbers they want to dall are already picked the balls are merely a concrete image we can see to represent the numbers.

            Computerized drawings is the future. 70% of lottery players buy quick picks which are generated by computers.

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              Posted: April 22, 2014, 10:19 am - IP Logged

              Could this be a move to all-computerized drawings — and the death of real drawings — in Illinois?

              After 20 years of perky hosts and ping pong balls, the future of live Illinois Lottery drawings on WGN-Ch.9 is up in the air.

              Lottery officials said Tuesday they are considering parting ways with WGN-TV, home to daily drawings since 1994, when the current one-year contract expires in June. Advances in lottery technology, an influx of new games and the move by Tribune Co. to pull the evening drawings off of national cable channel WGN America in February are playing into the decision.

              "We're in a period right now of just evaluating all these things," said Michael Jones, Illinois Lottery Superintendent. "The world has changed from 30 years ago and there are lots of way now of doing drawings."

              The Lottery pays WGN $1.2 million annually to air two live broadcasts each day — during the noon and 9 p.m. newscasts. The format has been the same for decades, with glamorous hosts drawing numbered ping pong balls out of glass machines for a variety of Lotto games.

              A hot commodity that sparked competitions between local TV stations for the exclusive broadcast rights in the '80s and '90s, the live local drawings have perhaps lost some of their luster in the digital age. A number of games, such as "Hit or Miss," exist entirely in cyberspace, with a random number generator housed in the Lottery's Springfield office conducting four virtual drawings each day.

              Lottery officials have been weighing whether the virtual technology might be just as effective for the big jackpot Lotto drawings. The decision by WGN America to replace the "News at Nine" with national programming and cut off the drawings to downstate viewers accelerated the process to consider alternatives, according to Jones.

              WGN America is in the process of reinventing itself as a national cable channel, with heavily-promoted "Salem" debuting on Sunday, the first of several original scripted dramas rolling out this year. The fees that WGN receives cover production costs, including the hosts, who are employed by WGN. The Lottery received a 40 percent reduction in fees for the last five months of the contract, corresponding with the loss of the downstate audience, according to officials.

              The Lottery may look for steeper discounts going forward, or may just look in a different direction entirely, Jones said. Negotiations are ongoing; WGN officials said they are hoping to renew the longstanding agreement to air the lottery drawings.

              "WGN-TV has been a proud partner with the Illinois Lottery for many years," said a WGN spokeswoman. "We look forward to a continued partnership."

              This is not the first time Jones has contemplated pulling the drawings from WGN-TV. As Lottery Director from 1981 to 1985, he moved the games to WFLD-Ch.32 for a better deal.

              The drawings bounced to WBBM-Ch.2 in 1992, and back to WGN on Jan. 1, 1994.

              Jones was brought back as superintendent in 2011 after Northstar became the nation's first private manager of a state lottery. Revenues are growing — they hit $2.84 billion last year with net proceeds of $794 million — but Northstar has failed meet its annual targets so far.

              The Lottery spent $46 million on advertising in 2013, and Jones is hoping to lure more players — especially younger ones — to play the games.

              Generating the winning lottery numbers through a computer and disseminating them online may be no less appealing, and substantially more cost-effective, in reaching the new target audience.

              Still, longtime players may miss the ping pong balls, and particularly,

              Linda Kollmeyer, the sunshiny "Lottery Lady" who has hosted the drawings over two decades. Decked out in finery, punctuating the drawings with random, upbeat pearls of wisdom, she has developed a cult following.

              Jones said that one of the virtual solutions he is contemplating would keep Kollmeyer in the game, even if the ping pong balls eventually disappear.

              "In discussions with WGN, they've come up with some very imaginative things, including potentially having an avatar of Linda Kollmeyer, so that she lives forever," he said.

              To the lottery director and staff of the Illinois lottery do not switch from ball drawings to computerized drawings you will lose money. The integrity of the games depends solely on the fact that ball drawings are the most wildly used drawings in the USA.
               
              Computerized drawings have and will continue to fail due to software glitches that neither you nor your staff will recognize.
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                To the lottery director and staff of the Illinois lottery do not switch from ball drawings to computerized drawings you will lose money. The integrity of the games depends solely on the fact that ball drawings are the most wildly used drawings in the USA.
                 
                Computerized drawings have and will continue to fail due to software glitches that neither you nor your staff will recognize.

                four4me,

                Good point but evidently the integrity of the games isn't Northstars' top priority.

                Since runniong the Illinois lottery they have fallen way short of the promise of increased revenue they made to ths state and are scrambling to come up with ways to meet it.

                Sad.

                Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                Lep

                There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                  Posted: April 22, 2014, 11:35 am - IP Logged

                  Computerized drawings is the future. 70% of lottery players buy quick picks which are generated by computers.

                  not pick 3 and 4 games

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