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Montana's $1M lottery raffle winner sued for half of prize

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Posted: January 10, 2015, 10:00 pm - IP Logged

This sounds like one of those "remember me if you win" scam promoted by people loitering around stores selling lottery tickets.  I usually tell these bums "I don't know you now and I won't be knowing you if I win".  Even if you say nothing, the people actually think they have an enforcealble contract.

Some guy at work loved to say to me "we'll share the big jackpot when you win" hoping I'd say "of course." All he ever got was a smile. He got the hint and stopped.

That money's gone fo ever

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    Yes, I use one in the grocery store sometimes, but I mostly buy my tickets at a locally owned (as are all here in Texas) liquor store because the retailer's cut would stay here in town and not go to some out-of-state corporation.    I hope that if the store ever sells a winning ticket, the owner would give bonuses to his employees.   The downside of using a machine is that they sometimes malfunction - it's happened to me three times before and I had to stay at the machine until management came to sort it out. (all three times I had money in the machine and nothing came out, the scratch ticket or the lotto slip had hung up - I was positive that if I left, the next person would be able to use my credits I had already paid for or my scratchers would dispense for them )  Also, if there's dust on the bill scanner it won't take bills.  I was trying to fill up a five gal. water bottle the other day and that machine wouldn't take a new dollar bill, but it took another that was torn and faded, go figger.

    I quit using those stupid machines. The other day with a lapse of judgment I used the machine at Tom Thumb to buy an All or Nothing QP and it kept spitting my dollar bills back out. More trouble than it's worth.

    CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN

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      Posted: January 10, 2015, 10:23 pm - IP Logged

      This sounds like one of those "remember me if you win" scam promoted by people loitering around stores selling lottery tickets.  I usually tell these bums "I don't know you now and I won't be knowing you if I win".  Even if you say nothing, the people actually think they have an enforcealble contract.

      It looks like you worked with the same guy I did. Over the years, I'll bet he made the "I'll share with you if I win and you share with me if you win" deal with at least 2000 people. Two guys pooled tickets with him for a few Super Lotto drawing, then broke up the pool, and the two other guys split a $20 million jackpot about a year later. Ten years after it happened, he still says he was cheated out of his share.

      Can't predict the outcome of this fiasco, but it will be fun watching.

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        Posted: January 10, 2015, 11:01 pm - IP Logged

        Oral contracts can and have won in court hearings. The fact that there were witness's is a bonus.

        Still will await the full disclosure as its been known to happen that there is more to the truth then is being conveyed.

        Simple written agreements would have resolved this matter, live and learn.

        ~~Is it true, Is it kind,Is it necessary. ~~~

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          Posted: January 11, 2015, 5:03 am - IP Logged

          I'm surprised by how many people are using the witnesses as a tie breaker. The first thing I considered was that they might have been promised a cut for their testimonies. Why was the deli worker even in on the conversation? Was he on a break or is the deli counter that close to the ticket counter? Seems odd.

          Another point, unless Hess and the winner were friends, I really don't care if there was a supposed verbal agreement. As has been pointed out by many here, it's become pretty normal for acquaintances, coworkers or even total strangers to jokingly request a share should you win. I really don't take those requests or the responses to them as a verbal contract. Only if they were close friends would I take that exchange seriously.

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            Posted: January 11, 2015, 6:06 am - IP Logged

            if your the one buying the tickets in a lottery pool like I am and buy tickets for yourself do what I do make copies of the lottery pool tickets give them out to the ones in the pool that way no trouble right now we are playing 2sets of numbers for 19 draws the copies have the date on the ticket when you bought them

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              Posted: January 11, 2015, 6:13 am - IP Logged

              I never get involved in syndicates or groups of any kind, or agreements, verbal or written.

              Also, I don't buy tickets in stores, I only buy subscriptions online or by mail.

              We all get a lot out of lotteries!

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                Posted: January 11, 2015, 6:23 am - IP Logged

                Twitchwell I hope the lawyers enjoy thar cut of this mess

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                  Posted: January 11, 2015, 9:13 am - IP Logged

                  Never make a promise you know you won't keep.

                  Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

                  For a lead role in a cage?

                   

                                                              From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

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                    Posted: January 11, 2015, 9:41 am - IP Logged

                    Since The Town Pump (love the name) is a pretty big corporation, I'm guessing there are camera's at the store,,,,

                    "So Bob-Let's go to the video!!"

                    "Everybody has to believe in something...I believe I'll have another beer!"   = W.C.Fields                      

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                      Posted: January 11, 2015, 11:28 am - IP Logged

                      The best way to avoid a situation like this is to never promise anyone

                      at anytime any of your winnings. Some people have integrity and some don't.

                      Better to be safe than sorry.  When you purchase a ticket(s), keep your mouth shut. 

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                        Since The Town Pump (love the name) is a pretty big corporation, I'm guessing there are camera's at the store,,,,

                        "So Bob-Let's go to the video!!"

                        you can go to the video all you want but last I remember, not all store security cameras come with sound recording equipment

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                          Posted: January 11, 2015, 11:31 am - IP Logged

                          This is what happens when stoners play the lottery

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                            Posted: January 11, 2015, 12:02 pm - IP Logged

                            Michael Hess said he went to the store to purchase Montana Millionaire tickets on Dec. 23, and told Fallang if he won, he'd split his winnings, according to documents filed in Helena district court Thursday.

                            "I then told Jeff I would as long as if he was to win we would split it in half," Hess said in a signed affidavit.

                            Sounds like Hess did all the talking and now he thinks he has an enforceable contract.

                             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                               
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                              Michael Hess said he went to the store to purchase Montana Millionaire tickets on Dec. 23, and told Fallang if he won, he'd split his winnings, according to documents filed in Helena district court Thursday.

                              "I then told Jeff I would as long as if he was to win we would split it in half," Hess said in a signed affidavit.

                              Sounds like Hess did all the talking and now he thinks he has an enforceable contract.

                              Yep and he has witnesses that heard him doing all the talking. Wonder if he has a witness who heard Jeff agreeing to split all the tickets.