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Montana's $1M lottery raffle winner sued for half of prize

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Posted: January 12, 2015, 4:02 am - IP Logged

I'm waiting for this to happen to me. I get QP tickets for our work pool and myself. I know what's coming if i win. This case should be interesting since there's a witness.

What's  the starting salary for witnesses in Montana?

One thing the guy suing has going for him, assuming he's telling (most of) the truth.  If it was a single transaction the lottery will know. Based on the numbers, the winning ticket is probably the 2nd of 3 purchased in a single transaction. That should make it easy to establish that Hess bought the winning ticket and subsequently gave it to Fallang. Fallang was apparently working at the Town Pump at th time, and was prohibited from buying a ticket while working; it should be easy to verify that. It also means that the two witnesses are coworkers of Fallang. That may reduces the chance that they're lying.

Still, the story is a bit weird. Why wouldn't Fallang simply buy his own ticket later?

 

As far as buying tickets for yourself and a work pool, why would you worry?  You do have a written agreement that makes it clear which tickets are yours and which belong to the pool, right?

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    Michael Hess said he went to the store to purchase Montana Millionaire tickets on Dec. 23, and told Fallang if he won, he'd split his winnings, according to documents filed in Helena district court Thursday.

    "I then told Jeff I would as long as if he was to win we would split it in half," Hess said in a signed affidavit.

    Sounds like Hess did all the talking and now he thinks he has an enforceable contract.

    It shouldn't sound that way unless you stopped reading with the part you've quoted.

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      the only people who will walk away with any money after the dust settles are the lawyers. No Nod

      Yep sad bit true.

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        Only in a liberalized America this would happen.

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          What's  the starting salary for witnesses in Montana?

          One thing the guy suing has going for him, assuming he's telling (most of) the truth.  If it was a single transaction the lottery will know. Based on the numbers, the winning ticket is probably the 2nd of 3 purchased in a single transaction. That should make it easy to establish that Hess bought the winning ticket and subsequently gave it to Fallang. Fallang was apparently working at the Town Pump at th time, and was prohibited from buying a ticket while working; it should be easy to verify that. It also means that the two witnesses are coworkers of Fallang. That may reduces the chance that they're lying.

          Still, the story is a bit weird. Why wouldn't Fallang simply buy his own ticket later?

           

          As far as buying tickets for yourself and a work pool, why would you worry?  You do have a written agreement that makes it clear which tickets are yours and which belong to the pool, right?

          "One thing the guy suing has going for him, assuming he's telling (most of) the truth."

          I'm sure Michael Hess is telling the truth as he sees it but Jeff Falling had the winning ticket and now has the cash so the truth as he sees it may have more bearing on this case.

          Why would Hess who brought two tickets for himself and only one for Falling consider splitting his winnings equally with Falling?

           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
             
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            I don,t buy lottery tickets for no one I don,t paticipate in buying tickets with groups,to keep confuision down,I buy my own tickets.Good Luck.

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              I do joke around with most of the clerks, but have never had one that "aggressive" on wanting to share.

               

              You know, the easy way they should have done it to make sure that they would split it, is to both of them sign the tickets right after the purchase.  That way Jeff would not be able to (try to) claim the prize alone.

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                I do joke around with most of the clerks, but have never had one that "aggressive" on wanting to share.

                 

                You know, the easy way they should have done it to make sure that they would split it, is to both of them sign the tickets right after the purchase.  That way Jeff would not be able to (try to) claim the prize alone.

                I do joke around with most of the clerks, but have never had one that "aggressive" on wanting to share.

                That's probably because you've never won a million dollars or more, if you had someone would want to share it.

                 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                   
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                  "One thing the guy suing has going for him, assuming he's telling (most of) the truth."

                  I'm sure Michael Hess is telling the truth as he sees it but Jeff Falling had the winning ticket and now has the cash so the truth as he sees it may have more bearing on this case.

                  Why would Hess who brought two tickets for himself and only one for Falling consider splitting his winnings equally with Falling?

                  Why would Hess who brought two tickets for himself and only one for Falling consider splitting his winnings equally with Falling?

                  That's a good question- after all Jeff invested absolutely nothing.Michael is a fool to suggest such a thing in the first place.

                  People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it- George Bernard Shaw.

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                    What's  the starting salary for witnesses in Montana?

                    One thing the guy suing has going for him, assuming he's telling (most of) the truth.  If it was a single transaction the lottery will know. Based on the numbers, the winning ticket is probably the 2nd of 3 purchased in a single transaction. That should make it easy to establish that Hess bought the winning ticket and subsequently gave it to Fallang. Fallang was apparently working at the Town Pump at th time, and was prohibited from buying a ticket while working; it should be easy to verify that. It also means that the two witnesses are coworkers of Fallang. That may reduces the chance that they're lying.

                    Still, the story is a bit weird. Why wouldn't Fallang simply buy his own ticket later?

                     

                    As far as buying tickets for yourself and a work pool, why would you worry?  You do have a written agreement that makes it clear which tickets are yours and which belong to the pool, right?

                    What's  the starting salary for witnesses in Montana?

                    That's a Killer line Floyd...LOL.

                    Kinda reminds me of a bumper sticker l once saw .. it said " YOU CAN'T BUY AN HONEST MAN, UNLESS THE PRICE IS RIGHT!"

                    People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it- George Bernard Shaw.

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                      "Why would Hess who brought two tickets for himself and only one for Falling consider splitting his winnings equally with Falling?"

                      Maybe they were friends when he bought the ticket. Maybe Fallang sold him his weed really cheap. Who knows? Just because you or I wouldn't give somebody half, especially on a modest win, doesn't mean other people wouldn't.

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                        Why would Hess who brought two tickets for himself and only one for Falling consider splitting his winnings equally with Falling?

                        That's a good question- after all Jeff invested absolutely nothing.Michael is a fool to suggest such a thing in the first place.

                        Maybe he only came up with the suggestion in the second place after learning his tickets were losers and Jeff's was a winner.  He could hardly suggest he should get 2/3 of the million since he paid for two losing tickets unless he truly believed all three tickets belonged to both of them.

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                          one gets  a  1/2 sahare in 3 lotto tickets for $1. the other gets a half share in in 3 lotto tickets for $2. theyre both winners

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