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Powerball changing in October to generate bigger jackpots

Topic closed. 96 replies. Last post 1 year ago by haymaker.

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San Angelo, Texas
United States
Member #1097
January 31, 2003
1394 Posts
Posted: July 8, 2015, 6:28 pm - IP Logged

As far as I can tell, the criteria for winning a non-jackpot prize will remain the same as it is now.
There are 8 prize divisions(?)

At present, I'm told if I match 3 of the 5 numbers drawn from a field of 59 numbers I'll win $7.
However, if I match 3 of the 5 numbers drawn AND the PB, I'll win $100.
In October, to win the same basic prize, I'll have to match 3 of 5 from a field in 69 numbers.
I realize that there will be fewer power balls, but it won't matter if I fail to match 3 of 5 numbers in the winning permutation.
Will someone please explain how winning the new game will be easier.

The greedy folks who are running this game are using changes in how the amount of money is divided up, hoping that
we won't snap on to the fact that regardless of odds, etc, etc, etc, winning 5+0, 4+0 and 3+0 prizes is going to be harder simply because
10 new numbers will have been added to the mix.

This new game is a 'predator' that lottery players could kill by spending their money on other games.

    New Jersey
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    Member #21206
    September 4, 2005
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    Posted: July 8, 2015, 7:36 pm - IP Logged

    The lottery officials keep working harder and harder to help me save money by not buying tickets.

    I play by expectation value and these continuous changes for the worst keep me from playing very much.

    You would think with the disaster that the Megamillions approach is turning out to be, that they would have learned their lesson.

    They may see a billion dollar jackpot some day, but it will take two years of continuous rollovers to reach it. 

    They're now seeing it take twenty and change draws to reach $300 million, whereas they used to get there in less than 20.

    Sales will continue to be low.

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      September 1, 2013
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      Posted: July 8, 2015, 7:46 pm - IP Logged

      I guess these rocket scientist don't realize that the sales probably dropped due to the $2 per ticket they charge for powerball, when you can purchase a mega million for a dollar.Hat

      This has actually been brought up (many) times in lottery conferences and so forth. But MUSL blames the larger playing population, not the price.

      If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the potential payoff does.
      If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

      2016: -48.28% (13 tickets) ||
      P&L % = Total Win($)/Total Wager($) - 1

        Miami, Florida
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        December 21, 2014
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        Posted: July 8, 2015, 7:52 pm - IP Logged

        Will each play of the Powerball go back to $1 or will it remain at $2?

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          October 23, 2007
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          Posted: July 8, 2015, 7:53 pm - IP Logged

          Will each play of the Powerball go back to $1 or will it remain at $2?

          Stays at $2.


          A DOLLAR AND A DREAM (OR $2)

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            May 30, 2004
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            Posted: July 8, 2015, 8:09 pm - IP Logged

            Powerball needs more change in October and change back 2 the $1.00 ticket price. If they really want 2 help D little people, please CHANGE back now!

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              Mcminnville, Oregon
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              December 13, 2003
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              Posted: July 8, 2015, 8:18 pm - IP Logged

              Well I guess I will be buying my usual $3 tickets or $2 tickets for every drawing hoping for the million.-weshar75

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                Posted: July 8, 2015, 8:59 pm - IP Logged

                I'd be so much happier if they had made it harder to win the JP by increasing only the powerballs.  A reduction in the number of white balls would be nice too.  Make the 2nd prize odds better.  I would think the increase in sales when the JP gets high would more than make up for a few more million dollar prizes.

                  Portland, OR
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                  Posted: July 8, 2015, 9:42 pm - IP Logged

                  "will increase to 1 in 292,201,338, up from 1 in 175,223,510."

                  Same thing to me.  If you are lucky you are lucky no matter the odds.  What they need to do is reduce the ticket to $1; then I'll buy Powerball.  Megamillions all the way for me.

                  "Understand... people are more complicated than the masks they wear in society... everyone is playing to win, and some people will use moral justifications to advance their side"

                                                                                                                                                                            Robert Greene

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                    Posted: July 8, 2015, 9:53 pm - IP Logged

                    I'd be so much happier if they had made it harder to win the JP by increasing only the powerballs.  A reduction in the number of white balls would be nice too.  Make the 2nd prize odds better.  I would think the increase in sales when the JP gets high would more than make up for a few more million dollar prizes.

                    Anyone who buys a powerball ticket after this is an idiot. They already charge 2x the price of Megamills. Odds improvement from 1/111 to 1/92 is no significant improvement. What a scam!

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                      February 14, 2006
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                      Posted: July 8, 2015, 11:10 pm - IP Logged

                       How do the chances of winning improve by increasing the numbers.

                      The odds of winning $4? That will improve from 1 in 111 to 1 in 92.

                      As if 1 in 92 are good odds of a $2 ticket winning $4 (actual $2 win) is something special. LOL


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                        Posted: July 8, 2015, 11:17 pm - IP Logged

                        They do this I will just stop playing unless the jackpots are just huge. MegaMillions told this same lie. On the old MegaMillions I frequently used to win something, even if it was a small amount, when they changed it, I have found that I barely ever win anything anymore. Realistically you are probably better off spending that same $2 on a scratch off ticket then the Powerball, even if the jackpot is much smaller. 

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                          Zeta Reticuli Star System
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                          Posted: July 8, 2015, 11:45 pm - IP Logged

                          The difference between the current PB jackpot odds and the odds for the JP coming in October are 116,977,828.

                          That is one whole heck of a lot steeper odds than stated Pick 6 jackpot games.

                          But the MUSL knows that they could offer odds only a real chooch would play but people will still play them.

                          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.


                          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                            Eatontown, NJ
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                            Posted: July 9, 2015, 1:06 am - IP Logged

                            This will backfire, most players are after the JP and couldn't care less about the lower prizes.

                            How many times do you hear about 2nd prize winners that didn't play the MP ?

                            And some don't even know there are lower prizes... the casual players that only buy when the JP is outsize,

                            isn't that who they're trying to attract ?


                            I was only playing when I could go to Delaware for tix. after the change when I do that it will be MM only.

                            MM having slightly better odds for half the price.

                            Haymaker? Did you know you can buy Powerball in NJ now? You don't have to drive to DE to get them.


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                              Posted: July 9, 2015, 1:12 am - IP Logged

                              MUSL has put the touch of death on PB.  They obviously don't know how to go with the flow. MUSL does not know how to be like water my friend.

                              Because of styles, people are separated.  They are not united together because styles became law.  But the original founder of the style started out with hypothesis - but now it has become the gospel truth.  Like boxing or fencing JKDL is a step by step project in which each maneuver must be repeated many times.  Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless, like water.  Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup.  Put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.  Now water can flow, or surge or drip or crash.  Be water my friend.