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Illinois lottery winners file class-action lawsuit against state

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mjwinsmith's avatar - moon

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Posted: September 10, 2015, 5:06 pm - IP Logged

Amen

Illinois should pay interest on the winnings from date of  win to date of payment @ 18.90% interest, same rate the Banks charge on credit card purchases.

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    Posted: September 10, 2015, 5:08 pm - IP Logged

    This should cut down lottery sales.  Does anyone know if it has?  Why by a ticket for a game that won't be paid if it is over $25,000?

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      Posted: September 10, 2015, 5:32 pm - IP Logged

      This news story is the exact reason why I would choose the lump sum no matter what. 

      The State should be responsible in paying interest until they make right on their payment and temporarily stop all lottery sales they cannot afford to payout, or at the very least, make everyone aware that they will not be paid right away until they sort everything out.

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        Posted: September 10, 2015, 6:17 pm - IP Logged

        Glad they are suing. These folks beat the odds to win a nice prize and now they can't collect. That's just wrong.

        $$ provides more freedom, options and choices.

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          Posted: September 10, 2015, 6:36 pm - IP Logged

          Back in Wisconsin and here we call 'em FIB's.

          'I' is for Illinois.

          Now, the 'B' has a new name, Bureaucrats.

          If you want to know what the 'F' is, you can guess, or PM us.

          NICE!!!!

          This should be  a WAKE UP CALL to all states - dont do what IL did. 

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            Posted: September 10, 2015, 7:29 pm - IP Logged

            If they can't pay it they shouldn't book it.

            Exactly

            Our family can't agree on a budget... Does this mean we can skip out on this year's tax bill?

            -RC

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              Posted: September 10, 2015, 9:13 pm - IP Logged

              I was wondering why it was taking so long for someone to sue to get their money. About time. I still don't understand why they are being allowed to sell tickets when they have no plans on actually paying anyone until they feel like it. It most certainly is fraud. How many ponzi schemers are serving jail time right now because they promised to pay out money and didn't, yet these idiots should be given a pass because they get to hide behind bureaucratic red tape? Absolutely not. Hopefully this case will go in front of a judge with balls, who isn't afraid to do the right thing here. That MM jackpot came from monies collected all over the nation and these politician still won't pay it out? Bet if it was their money being held up they'd be much more incentivized to break the deadlock. But no, they still get to collect their salaries, so there's no reason for them to care, and it's obvious that they do not. 

              As for the Donald Trump statement, considering the man's companies declared bankrupt four times, really don't see why he should be used as a bastion of fiscal responsibility. To claim his creditors weren't nice people so it was okay to not pay them is pretty even with this Illinois fiasco in terms of despicable actions. 

              In any case, all of this boils down to, NEVER EVER EVER play the lottery in Illinois and ALWAYS take the lump sum. I used to think that if I won over a certain amount, I might consider taking the annuity, thank goodness these crooks pulled this stunt so now I know better.

              I might wake up early and go running.  I might also wake up and win the lottery.

              The odds are about the same.

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                Posted: September 10, 2015, 9:37 pm - IP Logged

                I remember a business law teacher saying that putting coins in a soda machine was an implied contract between you and the machine. Once you put the coins in you rightfully expect the machine to deliver the soda.

                I'm no lawyer but wouldn't the payout schedule on the back of the play slip or the possible prizes on a scratcher be an implied contract, once the ticket is played or the scratcher is purchased?

                Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                Lep

                There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                  Posted: September 10, 2015, 11:12 pm - IP Logged

                  The only winners in this fiasco are the attorneys. Knowing the financial circumstances why in the world would anyone purchase any lottery ticket that had a potential prize of more than $25k? 

                  Stick to pick 3/4 drawings or purchase your larger prize tickets like Powerball or Mega Millions in a neighboring state.

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                    Posted: September 11, 2015, 12:11 am - IP Logged

                    DRenick1,
                    That's what I'm doing, scratchers that pay under $25K, Pick 3/4.

                    Right now the Lucky Day Lotto is $450,000 but what's the point of playing it?

                    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                    Lep

                    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                      Posted: September 11, 2015, 1:13 am - IP Logged

                      Since the Illinois Comptroller is not performing their job and signing lottery winner checks during the budget talks, then they should not be receiving a paycheck -- either now or retroactively when the budget is finalized.

                      This story highlights the tremendous chasm of responsibility and fairness between the private sector and government.  This is the reason people are fed up with government and are turning to private sector folks like Donald Trump to get things done.

                      "Since the Illinois Comptroller is not performing their job"

                      Based on the story you posted 2 weeks ago it appears that the comptroller is doing exactly what his job requires - not writing checks because the lack of a budget means he doesn't have the proper authority to do so. It also seems clear that it's not actually a lottery problem. Under Illinois law rather than having the lottery disburse large winnings it's done by the state comptroller. Based on that it seems to me that the plaintiffs have a lousy attorney who hasn't filed suit against the proper defendant.

                      "I'm sure Illinois is honoring its commitment to transfer 30% of its sales to MUSL for the MM and PB jackpots"

                      I'm guessing that disbursing prize money to either MUSL or directly to other states may actually be done directly by the lottery. In that case the comptroller wouldn't be involved, and the lack of a budget wouldn't matter.

                      "wouldn't the payout schedule on the back of the play slip or the possible prizes on a scratcher be an implied contract"

                      Where's the part of the contract that specifies how soon payment has to be made? Every lottery ticket I've seen says that playing is subject to official rules, but those rules aren't on the tickets. It's entirely possible that the official rules cover situations such as this.

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                        Posted: September 11, 2015, 10:31 am - IP Logged

                        This situation seemingly eliminates any quandary as to the annuity payment-cash value option where applicable- get your money and eliminate your government partner ASAP.

                        Ironically, a "government partner" would be safer than how many lotteries actually implement annuities. Some lotteries, such PA Lottery, treat annuities as a contractual obligation held by various private-sector annuity companies; winnings not directly government backed.

                        To be fair, typical large jackpots, while seemingly relatively huge, are small change for annuity companies, so it's highly unlikely any of them would default so badly they couldn't pay out, but it could happen. A lot can change over 10+ years. Heck, look at all the big name financial companies that went belly up several years ago. Lotteries utilize various annuity companies - some of which may not be considered too big to fail, and hence could be allowed to fail leaving winners left with smaller or even no payments.

                        On a related note, I'm amazed other lotteries / licensed operators haven't publicly pressured the Illinois Lottery to pay out winners pronto. Withholding payments hurts player confidence nationwide. Many states, including Pennsylvania, still haven't passed their annual budgets yet. While PA Lottery has a history of continuing to operate as usual during past budget stalemates, the IL Lottery situation makes me wonder whether it could happen in PA.

                        In short, you're spot on, take the cash and run.

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                          Posted: September 11, 2015, 11:17 am - IP Logged

                          I hope they sue the hell out of them. I would be steaming too if i hit the jackpot and still had to go to work.

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                            Posted: September 12, 2015, 10:45 am - IP Logged

                            The only winners in this fiasco are the attorneys. Knowing the financial circumstances why in the world would anyone purchase any lottery ticket that had a potential prize of more than $25k? 

                            Stick to pick 3/4 drawings or purchase your larger prize tickets like Powerball or Mega Millions in a neighboring state.

                            If an Illinois ticket were to win this weeks Powerball jackpot, they wouldn't get the moneyWhat?

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                              Posted: September 12, 2015, 1:11 pm - IP Logged

                              I'm in Illinois and play Lucky Day Lotto daily and Illinois Lotto each draw.  I had not heard a word about payments being suspended until a few days ago.  When I first heard that they were suspending the payments until a budget is agreed on, I wasn't worried.  I figured they would eventually come up with a budget and everyone would be paid if the reason they are suspending payments is really due to the budget fight. 

                              What has me concerned now is that I haven't read one article that says "don't worry, the money is still there".  I want to know if the greedy Illinois politicians have pilfered the lottery fund like they have every other fund in this state.  The fact that no-one is reassuring us that the money is still there is making me think payment suspensions may not be due to a lack of budget agreement but actually a lack of funds.  I would also like to know why we haven't heard about this before now if it has been going on since June?  Seems pretty sketchy to me.

                              We all know this state is broke.  I am sadly suspecting they have even raided our lottery fund and it is gone too.