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Illinois lottery winners file class-action lawsuit against state

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Posted: September 12, 2015, 1:26 pm - IP Logged

If an Illinois ticket were to win this weeks Powerball jackpot, they wouldn't get the moneyWhat?

That would really be something to see. I'm not holding my breath because I intend to win it myself and save Illinois the embarrassment.

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    Posted: September 12, 2015, 1:29 pm - IP Logged

    I'm in Illinois and play Lucky Day Lotto daily and Illinois Lotto each draw.  I had not heard a word about payments being suspended until a few days ago.  When I first heard that they were suspending the payments until a budget is agreed on, I wasn't worried.  I figured they would eventually come up with a budget and everyone would be paid if the reason they are suspending payments is really due to the budget fight. 

    What has me concerned now is that I haven't read one article that says "don't worry, the money is still there".  I want to know if the greedy Illinois politicians have pilfered the lottery fund like they have every other fund in this state.  The fact that no-one is reassuring us that the money is still there is making me think payment suspensions may not be due to a lack of budget agreement but actually a lack of funds.  I would also like to know why we haven't heard about this before now if it has been going on since June?  Seems pretty sketchy to me.

    We all know this state is broke.  I am sadly suspecting they have even raided our lottery fund and it is gone too.

    C'mon relax. This is Illinois we are talking about. One way or the other, they find a way to screw the people anyway.

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      Posted: September 12, 2015, 1:33 pm - IP Logged

      Food for thought: Next time you win a jackpot, just take the cash and run. Better to squander your own money by yourself than have somebody else do it for you.

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        Posted: September 12, 2015, 3:31 pm - IP Logged

        Since lotteries are suppose to generate the funds that pay the prizes totally independent of the state budget it does seem strange that the state would continue to sell tickets, collect the monies and not paid the prizes.  Most of the money for the MM prize came from other states that contributed 30% of their sales to the jackpot.

        I Agree!..Out here in California, proceeds from the State lottery are not tied in any way of the State budget. When the citizens of California voted on having a lottery back in the 80's- that was made perfectly clear to the voters.It is as it should be.l don't blame these folks for lawyering up.Send a signal to the politicians.Bang Head

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          Posted: September 12, 2015, 4:19 pm - IP Logged

          LonniC,

          Illinois kept the non-payments hushed up from July 1st until there were some winners of over $25,000. Then they had to fess up.

          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

          Lep

          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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            Posted: September 12, 2015, 4:39 pm - IP Logged

            Had this discussion on how when budgets are halted, money is still allowed to flow into the government. take Car Registrations, Toll booths, Fines, Tax collections. Each flowing in and being applied. Issuance of payments that are outgoing (halted), ergo, no Monies released til Budget is approved. Some State contracts that are pre allocated are considered part of the former contingency of payments.

            Has anyone researched how long Illinois has from time of claim to make payment? 

             

            Side note: Business's that utilized the bankruptcy laws did so to REGROUP a company game plan. Its legal and not to be considered a poor business decision. Chrysler did the same thing and by doing so, regrouped and started to modify the changes necessary. I care zilch for the platform of Trump, yet as a business man, he utilized  the laws to his benefit. No different then folks who chose that recourse during the real estate collapse.

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              Posted: September 12, 2015, 7:11 pm - IP Logged

              Had this discussion on how when budgets are halted, money is still allowed to flow into the government. take Car Registrations, Toll booths, Fines, Tax collections. Each flowing in and being applied. Issuance of payments that are outgoing (halted), ergo, no Monies released til Budget is approved. Some State contracts that are pre allocated are considered part of the former contingency of payments.

              Has anyone researched how long Illinois has from time of claim to make payment? 

               

              Side note: Business's that utilized the bankruptcy laws did so to REGROUP a company game plan. Its legal and not to be considered a poor business decision. Chrysler did the same thing and by doing so, regrouped and started to modify the changes necessary. I care zilch for the platform of Trump, yet as a business man, he utilized  the laws to his benefit. No different then folks who chose that recourse during the real estate collapse.

              It doesn't matter how it's phrased. No one ever files for bankruptcy because they're financially sound. Berkshire Hathaway isn't filing bankruptcy for any restructuring they'd do. Just because the law makes these provisions isn't a sign of great business acumen to have to utilize them. The person running a company well enough so they don't have to file bankruptcy is the smart one. There's a reason filing for bankruptcy is always the last resort and not the first. In the same way  I wouldn't take budgeting advice from someone who's been on welfare four different times, though, to paraphrase you, it's a legal provision and a smart move for those who need to regroup, I'm not going to hold up anyone as being a financial wiz who's had to regroup on four different occasions. But that's just me.

              I might wake up early and go running.  I might also wake up and win the lottery.

              The odds are about the same.

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                Posted: September 12, 2015, 7:30 pm - IP Logged

                I remember a business law teacher saying that putting coins in a soda machine was an implied contract between you and the machine. Once you put the coins in you rightfully expect the machine to deliver the soda.

                I'm no lawyer but wouldn't the payout schedule on the back of the play slip or the possible prizes on a scratcher be an implied contract, once the ticket is played or the scratcher is purchased?

                The only problem is that no lottery game I've seen gives you a definite date of disbursement. It's always phrased like "disbursement of funds are usually within x weeks". It varies and it's ambiguous. Maybe we need the rules of the game and the laws in the state amended so that disbursements must be made within a certain period of time or the state will have to pay interest as well as penalties. When a resident owes the state, fees and penalties are tacked on when payment is late. Why can't the reverse be true. Right now all they need to say is that funds will be paid eventually and the implied contract still holds. There's no breach of it. That's a problem and it's a problem no one thought to address until now.

                I might wake up early and go running.  I might also wake up and win the lottery.

                The odds are about the same.

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                  Posted: September 13, 2015, 4:23 am - IP Logged

                  one of the laws governing raffles and lotteries and basically any prize draw out here in Australia, is that the company running the draw has to actually have the prizes on offer  before the draw. not qute sure if that applies to   state lottos tho. i know there are now tele marketting scams , or well  much like a scam, but also techinaclly legal offering all sorts of prizes. on late night TV, so i know its not just charity raffles having to follow the rules. Amazing the state over there can get away with this.

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                    Posted: September 13, 2015, 4:26 pm - IP Logged

                    Ahh Illinois lol, Greece is in far better shape financially than this state.

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                      Ahh Illinois lol, Greece is in far better shape financially than this state.

                      LOL!!!!!!! Seems like it, doesn't it.  Bet any winners in Greece of 'El Gordo' were not effected.

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                        Posted: September 14, 2015, 9:35 am - IP Logged

                        I go to the Illinois Lottery Website and I can't find anything about giving out IOUs instead of a jackpot. That tells you something right their.

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                          Posted: September 15, 2015, 5:31 am - IP Logged

                          This story hit the national news, saw it last night on the 6:30 national news! 

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                            Posted: September 15, 2015, 7:41 am - IP Logged

                            Now is the Time to get these people out of their elected jobs, and renew the whole field. The Lottery should be a Totally different Entity, and not connected to any type of State budget. The Lottery Fund  is just that , The fund for the Lottery.

                            Amen brother

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                              Posted: September 16, 2015, 9:36 am - IP Logged

                              This scandal in IL has hit major media outlets.

                              Do you think it will shame the politicians into resolving their budget issues.

                              This must be hurting their lottery income with this policy of not paying out over $25K .

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