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Illinois lottery winners file class-action lawsuit against state

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CSense's avatar - villiarna
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Posted: September 17, 2015, 12:10 pm - IP Logged

Amen

Illinois should pay interest on the winnings from date of  win to date of payment @ 18.90% interest, same rate the Banks charge on credit card purchases.

Mad

Exactly, what they're doing is robbing the winners illegally. At the same time the people who withheld the winners' money should be fired or resign. They now gave their state a bad name because this is bad business so there will be less sales of lottery tickets.

Always pay forward, it's a good start in life that make everybody happy.

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    Posted: September 18, 2015, 2:18 pm - IP Logged

    "Since the Illinois Comptroller is not performing their job"

    Based on the story you posted 2 weeks ago it appears that the comptroller is doing exactly what his job requires - not writing checks because the lack of a budget means he doesn't have the proper authority to do so. It also seems clear that it's not actually a lottery problem. Under Illinois law rather than having the lottery disburse large winnings it's done by the state comptroller. Based on that it seems to me that the plaintiffs have a lousy attorney who hasn't filed suit against the proper defendant.

    "I'm sure Illinois is honoring its commitment to transfer 30% of its sales to MUSL for the MM and PB jackpots"

    I'm guessing that disbursing prize money to either MUSL or directly to other states may actually be done directly by the lottery. In that case the comptroller wouldn't be involved, and the lack of a budget wouldn't matter.

    "wouldn't the payout schedule on the back of the play slip or the possible prizes on a scratcher be an implied contract"

    Where's the part of the contract that specifies how soon payment has to be made? Every lottery ticket I've seen says that playing is subject to official rules, but those rules aren't on the tickets. It's entirely possible that the official rules cover situations such as this.

    "Based on the story you posted 2 weeks ago it appears that the comptroller is doing exactly what his job requires - not writing checks because the lack of a budget means he doesn't have the proper authority to do so. "

    We have the opposite problem in KY where a County Clerk went to jail for refusing to do their job.

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      Posted: September 18, 2015, 7:56 pm - IP Logged

      Here is some additional information I located on this subject.

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      The Illinois Legislature isn't scheduled to return until later this month. But state representative Jack Franks says he's asked the governor to call a special session. And he'll introduce a bill that will allow the comptroller to pay out big lottery awards.

      JACK FRANKS: I don't think this can wait 'cause this is a very, very important asset of the state which - we generate almost a billion dollars in revenue a year for the state. And it could dry up overnight if people lose confidence."

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        Posted: September 19, 2015, 6:36 am - IP Logged

        Here is some additional information I located on this subject.

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        The Illinois Legislature isn't scheduled to return until later this month. But state representative Jack Franks says he's asked the governor to call a special session. And he'll introduce a bill that will allow the comptroller to pay out big lottery awards.

        JACK FRANKS: I don't think this can wait 'cause this is a very, very important asset of the state which - we generate almost a billion dollars in revenue a year for the state. And it could dry up overnight if people lose confidence."

        Well, at least one of them gets it! 

        Illinois residents -- vote out the rest of the jokers, but keep Jack Franks.  Next time he runs he can use the campaign slogan: Jack Franks: He's got a clue.

        "There is no such thing as luck; only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe."

        ~Robert A. Heinlein

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          Posted: September 20, 2015, 11:13 am - IP Logged

          Last week someone in the Illinois legislature was quoted as saying, "Oh how many people does this non-payment of winning tickets affect - there aren't that many winners."

          Pitiful that someone in his position has no clue what this situation does to ticket sales.

          Hey Illinois lottery:

          IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PAY WHY SHOULD WE PLAY!

          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

          Lep

          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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            Posted: September 20, 2015, 11:23 am - IP Logged

            Last week someone in the Illinois legislature was quoted as saying, "Oh how many people does this non-payment of winning tickets affect - there aren't that many winners."

            Pitiful that someone in his position has no clue what this situation does to ticket sales.

            Hey Illinois lottery:

            IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PAY WHY SHOULD WE PLAY!

            CT, I'm really sorry you are in this state with these idiots running the lottery. If you live close to the border of another state, it would good to just spend your money in that state.

            CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN

            A DOLLAR AND A DREAM (OR $2)

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              Posted: September 20, 2015, 1:12 pm - IP Logged

              rcbuckeye,

              Yeah, there's Missouri, Kentucky and Indiana not too far....in fact, if you win anything significant Illinois puts you mug and amount on monitors where tickets are sold. I've often though of just playing in one of the bordering states where nobody knows you!

              Scared

              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

              Lep

              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                Posted: September 21, 2015, 5:17 am - IP Logged

                Last week someone in the Illinois legislature was quoted as saying, "Oh how many people does this non-payment of winning tickets affect - there aren't that many winners."

                Pitiful that someone in his position has no clue what this situation does to ticket sales.

                Hey Illinois lottery:

                IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PAY WHY SHOULD WE PLAY!

                TYPICAL, the response from the legislature.  Political nature is - unless it affects me - I don't care! 

                (or is it 'effects'? Always get those words reversed!- LOL)

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                  Posted: September 22, 2015, 12:15 pm - IP Logged

                  I think that the lawsuit should asked the courts to have the state reimburse the winners not only the prize money but also penalty & interest for non-payment & base it on the same criteria as the IPASS.   Where a .50 cent IPASS toll violation turns into a $80.00 bill based on their calculations of penalty & interest.  Lets see it if they like it if the pants are on a different foot.  I also hope that they are including legal fees in the lawsuit as the lottery winners should not have to pay for their attorneys.

                  As for buying future PB MM tickets, WI is only a 45 min drive away. I won't have to worry about getting paid from them if I win.  You can buy a months worth of drawings on one trip with no problems.  I did it in the past when IL didn't have the PB.

                  PS - Wi & IN have lower tax rates than IL, so you will get to keep even more money..............................

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                    Posted: September 22, 2015, 12:54 pm - IP Logged

                    Correction:  The top 4 collar states are MO, WI, IA, & KY 

                    Current State (BASE) Tax Rates

                    MO - 4.225%

                    WI - 5.000%

                    IA - 6.000%

                    KY - 6.000%

                    IL - 6.250%

                    IN - 7.000%

                    Let's see difference between WI & IL is 1.250%   PB is (200M+) times 1.25% = 2.5M in savings by buying your ticket in WI.

                    Is a 45 min trip to WI worth it -- you bet your sweet A## it is........................................... And Yes, I am a turtle.

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                      Posted: September 22, 2015, 4:14 pm - IP Logged

                      Here is some additional information I located on this subject.

                      "

                      The Illinois Legislature isn't scheduled to return until later this month. But state representative Jack Franks says he's asked the governor to call a special session. And he'll introduce a bill that will allow the comptroller to pay out big lottery awards.

                      JACK FRANKS: I don't think this can wait 'cause this is a very, very important asset of the state which - we generate almost a billion dollars in revenue a year for the state. And it could dry up overnight if people lose confidence."

                      The damage is all ready done & it has already started to dry up overnight.  Went to my local store where I buy my tickets, and the owner states he has definitely seen an increasing loss in sales on the big games over the past few weeks.  Even his regular customers are telling him that it is a bunch of Bull S### and are not buying any tickets until this problem is rectified.   The Lottery in Illinois is biting off the hand that feeds them.  Time to clean house & get rid of the dead wood...............................

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                        Posted: September 24, 2015, 5:05 am - IP Logged

                        The damage is all ready done & it has already started to dry up overnight.  Went to my local store where I buy my tickets, and the owner states he has definitely seen an increasing loss in sales on the big games over the past few weeks.  Even his regular customers are telling him that it is a bunch of Bull S### and are not buying any tickets until this problem is rectified.   The Lottery in Illinois is biting off the hand that feeds them.  Time to clean house & get rid of the dead wood...............................

                        sad to say this but GOOD TO SEE - power to the people on this!!

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                          Posted: October 9, 2015, 2:54 pm - IP Logged

                          Since the Illinois Comptroller is not performing their job and signing lottery winner checks during the budget talks, then they should not be receiving a paycheck -- either now or retroactively when the budget is finalized.

                          This story highlights the tremendous chasm of responsibility and fairness between the private sector and government.  This is the reason people are fed up with government and are turning to private sector folks like Donald Trump to get things done.

                          Well stated, Todd.

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                            Posted: October 15, 2015, 10:30 am - IP Logged

                            Just saw the news about the Illinois lottery and the announcement that any winnings over $600 can no longer be immediately paid. They will be issuing I.O.U.'s but with interest. With current interest rates at 0.25% I doubt any big winners In that state will be too thrilled.