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Another $1.2M Hot Lotto jackpot rigged by Tipton, officials say

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Posted: November 21, 2015, 8:04 pm - IP Logged

I see what you're saying.  Nobody discovered a problem with the computer drawings until suspicions were raised by the method used to try to collect the 12 mil JP. 

But I still think his greed was his main downfall.  If he had been satisfied with his cut from the first 3, I don't think he'd have ever gotten caught.  I don't remember what the other 2 jackpots were worth (has that been reported?), but the one in Texas paid out $600K which is about minimum for HL, so my guess is his cuts added up to a minimum of a million dollars for the first 3 rigged drawings and maybe more.

"Nobody discovered a problem with the computer drawings until suspicions were raised by the method used to try to collect"

That's because their security procedure is apparently to have the software certified and then sit back and assume nothing bad can happen.

In the hot lotto case the alleged manipulation went undetected for something like 5 weeks. That tells us that they're not making frequent checks (and perhaps not even infrequent checks) to see if that certified software has been manipulated. The Hot lotto case also tells us that the security is either so bad that multiple machines were manipulated or they consistently used the same machine.

I'll also note that based on the reports we've seen the machines apparently "know" what drawing the numbers are being selected for. That's another incredibly stupid lapse in security.

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    Posted: November 21, 2015, 9:43 pm - IP Logged

    True, whenever we go to Texas we always play Texas lottery games over Oklahoma.

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      Posted: November 22, 2015, 3:07 am - IP Logged

      True, whenever we go to Texas we always play Texas lottery games over Oklahoma.

      The story is about a Hot Lotto jackpot being rigged and the possibility of a Texan resident being in on it. Texas doesn't sell Hot Lotto tickets so there is nothing unusual about buying Hot Lotto tickets in OK. You can only buy Texas lottery tickets in Texas so there is no choice when you go there.

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        Posted: November 22, 2015, 8:12 am - IP Logged

        This story just proves security should check security when lottery money is involved.

         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
           
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          Posted: November 22, 2015, 8:15 am - IP Logged

          This whole story makes me wonder what else is out there just waiting to be discovered?  There are so many RNG games now, and I am sure Tipton isn't the first to have the idea and the skills to make this fraud happen.  Maybe others are just less greedy or smart enough not to get caught?

          I think lotteries are going to have to start monitoring the financials of their employees that have access to RNG systems and especially look at anyone who quit or retired early.

          "There is no such thing as luck; only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe."

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            This whole story makes me wonder what else is out there just waiting to be discovered?  There are so many RNG games now, and I am sure Tipton isn't the first to have the idea and the skills to make this fraud happen.  Maybe others are just less greedy or smart enough not to get caught?

            I think lotteries are going to have to start monitoring the financials of their employees that have access to RNG systems and especially look at anyone who quit or retired early.

            Absolutely. There are a lot of RNG games, and it is complete arrogance on the part of lottery commissions to continue to have RNG drawings thinking it can't happen to them after all this has been going on.

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              Posted: November 22, 2015, 10:01 am - IP Logged

              Absolutely. There are a lot of RNG games, and it is complete arrogance on the part of lottery commissions to continue to have RNG drawings thinking it can't happen to them after all this has been going on.

              Rarely does lottery guru play RNG games.

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                Posted: November 22, 2015, 6:23 pm - IP Logged

                This story just proves security should check security when lottery money is involved.

                The Iowa Lottery had plenty of time to investigate, but have very little real evidence against Tipton. Basically all they proved is how inept their security is.

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                  Posted: November 22, 2015, 6:57 pm - IP Logged

                  This whole story makes me wonder what else is out there just waiting to be discovered?  There are so many RNG games now, and I am sure Tipton isn't the first to have the idea and the skills to make this fraud happen.  Maybe others are just less greedy or smart enough not to get caught?

                  I think lotteries are going to have to start monitoring the financials of their employees that have access to RNG systems and especially look at anyone who quit or retired early.

                  Sad to think but I bet this is just the tip of the iceberg.  Good idea checking into quit/retired/ex employees financials.

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                    Posted: November 23, 2015, 5:16 am - IP Logged

                    They need to just shut this game down and remake a new version. 

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                      Posted: November 23, 2015, 9:21 am - IP Logged

                      They need to just shut this game down and remake a new version. 

                      I Agree!

                      A new version that is not RNG.

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                        Posted: November 23, 2015, 10:16 pm - IP Logged

                        Binge eating.

                        Binge drinking.

                        Binge lottery rigging.

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                        For a lead role in a cage?

                         

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