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More lottery winners using trusts to accept prizes anonymously

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Posted: November 30, 2015, 7:54 am - IP Logged

I am sorry but with the use of the Internet and the way society thinks they are entitled to what you win I have to agree that this is necessary to protect the winners. Not only protecting them from strangers but also family who think they have a right to what you win because you did not earn it you won it. As sick as this is, it is a reality that has become all too popular and so for these reasons i agree that any way to keep my name out of the public viewing I would use. At one recent Thanksgiving my uncle stated that if I won lottery he expected me to take care of him, of which I stated that if I won no one would know. he got mad and does not talk to me anymore. And i did not even win yet. So with that experience and all the war stories I hear I am for blocking and keeping my name from ever coming up.

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    Posted: November 30, 2015, 8:46 am - IP Logged

    I am sorry but with the use of the Internet and the way society thinks they are entitled to what you win I have to agree that this is necessary to protect the winners. Not only protecting them from strangers but also family who think they have a right to what you win because you did not earn it you won it. As sick as this is, it is a reality that has become all too popular and so for these reasons i agree that any way to keep my name out of the public viewing I would use. At one recent Thanksgiving my uncle stated that if I won lottery he expected me to take care of him, of which I stated that if I won no one would know. he got mad and does not talk to me anymore. And i did not even win yet. So with that experience and all the war stories I hear I am for blocking and keeping my name from ever coming up.

    Sorry your Uncle showed his true colors.  I  this too.  My Sister once said to me and then to my older Brother 'if you win the lottery, you HAVE to give me some'.  I don't have to do anything but stay white and die is what I was thinking of telling her.  Then there's the jokers @ work and I tell them to their face I win and you'll never hear of or see me again.  Lots of unfriending on Facebook!!

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      Posted: November 30, 2015, 9:36 am - IP Logged

      This is great news to read and hope all big winners use this important strategy to protect themselves and their families.

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        Posted: November 30, 2015, 12:07 pm - IP Logged

        He/She can enjoy the winnings in peace.

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          Posted: November 30, 2015, 12:09 pm - IP Logged

          I agree that with the advent of the internet it's way too easy to find and stalk people and this has made it even more important for winners to remain anonymous.  It would be very difficult to disappear unless you bought your new property in the name of a corporation or something.  Heck, these "people find" websites even follow renters.  I assume they get their info from credit cards or banks or something.  So you'd have to get all your mail sent to a drop box, and probably have that as your driver's license address too.  It seems like everyone including government entities now sell our information to the highest bidder.  It's absolutely disturbing.

          I think it would actually be to the lottery's benefit to allow people to remain anonymous TO THE PRESS AND OTHER OUTSIDERS.  That way, they could require the winner to provide their name and info so that the lottery could check to see if they owe child support, and make sure they don't work for the lottery or are connected to someone who does.  If they were required by penalty of law to keep that info private, I'd happily supply it so that other lottery players could have some peace of mind that due diligence is being done to try to keep the games and winners honest.

          As it is, if a winner collects with a trust, even the lottery doesn't know their name and can't do the checks to make sure it's a legitimate win.

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            Posted: November 30, 2015, 12:12 pm - IP Logged

            Smart!

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              Posted: November 30, 2015, 12:14 pm - IP Logged

              Sorry your Uncle showed his true colors.  I  this too.  My Sister once said to me and then to my older Brother 'if you win the lottery, you HAVE to give me some'.  I don't have to do anything but stay white and die is what I was thinking of telling her.  Then there's the jokers @ work and I tell them to their face I win and you'll never hear of or see me again.  Lots of unfriending on Facebook!!

              After I told my sister I'm not sharing my lottery winnings with anybody who doesn't play the lottery, she buys lottery tickets and gives them to me to check them.  SC lets you claim anonymously.

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                Posted: November 30, 2015, 12:59 pm - IP Logged

                I agree that with the advent of the internet it's way too easy to find and stalk people and this has made it even more important for winners to remain anonymous.  It would be very difficult to disappear unless you bought your new property in the name of a corporation or something.  Heck, these "people find" websites even follow renters.  I assume they get their info from credit cards or banks or something.  So you'd have to get all your mail sent to a drop box, and probably have that as your driver's license address too.  It seems like everyone including government entities now sell our information to the highest bidder.  It's absolutely disturbing.

                I think it would actually be to the lottery's benefit to allow people to remain anonymous TO THE PRESS AND OTHER OUTSIDERS.  That way, they could require the winner to provide their name and info so that the lottery could check to see if they owe child support, and make sure they don't work for the lottery or are connected to someone who does.  If they were required by penalty of law to keep that info private, I'd happily supply it so that other lottery players could have some peace of mind that due diligence is being done to try to keep the games and winners honest.

                As it is, if a winner collects with a trust, even the lottery doesn't know their name and can't do the checks to make sure it's a legitimate win.

                "It would be very difficult to disappear unless you bought your new property in the name of a corporation or something."

                Bummer. If only there was some  way of  disappearing, huh?

                "if a winner collects with a trust, even the lottery doesn't know their name and can't do the checks to make sure it's a legitimate win."

                I'll bet Eddie Tipton thought that, too.

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                  Posted: November 30, 2015, 1:23 pm - IP Logged

                  In my state u have the option of going public or a trust.

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                    Posted: November 30, 2015, 1:35 pm - IP Logged

                    The trust is the best way to go it will give you Safety, Security, and with my family it will be a necessity LOL.Boxing

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                      Posted: November 30, 2015, 1:54 pm - IP Logged

                      Hi there,

                       

                      everyone I am new to this website so I figure I hello to everyone : ).  If I win a big lottery I would definitely claim as a trusts as well to protect myself and love one.  And also I have question that I want to ask that I couldn't find yet on this website.  I know that you can buy lottery from other countries but can you claim the prize if and that is a huge if you win the jackpot.

                       

                      Hopefully the jackpot goes back up to $300+ million dollars soon.  And Good luck everyone and thank you for answering my question in advance.

                      Welcome to LP from a former resident of Westminster, X Bolsa/ Ward.

                       

                      I'd be wary about buying from other countries, not sure it's legal either.

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                        Posted: November 30, 2015, 6:37 pm - IP Logged

                        I agree that with the advent of the internet it's way too easy to find and stalk people and this has made it even more important for winners to remain anonymous.  It would be very difficult to disappear unless you bought your new property in the name of a corporation or something.  Heck, these "people find" websites even follow renters.  I assume they get their info from credit cards or banks or something.  So you'd have to get all your mail sent to a drop box, and probably have that as your driver's license address too.  It seems like everyone including government entities now sell our information to the highest bidder.  It's absolutely disturbing.

                        I think it would actually be to the lottery's benefit to allow people to remain anonymous TO THE PRESS AND OTHER OUTSIDERS.  That way, they could require the winner to provide their name and info so that the lottery could check to see if they owe child support, and make sure they don't work for the lottery or are connected to someone who does.  If they were required by penalty of law to keep that info private, I'd happily supply it so that other lottery players could have some peace of mind that due diligence is being done to try to keep the games and winners honest.

                        As it is, if a winner collects with a trust, even the lottery doesn't know their name and can't do the checks to make sure it's a legitimate win.

                        You know what's weird, used to be celebrities bought properties and conducted business under the shield of corporations, but that's not really working any more. I've seen TMZ and E! out celebrities and the names of their corporations when they buy a home. Then they publish the photos and features of the house.

                        If a D-list celebrity like 50 Cent has to shell out $9K a month on security, the lottery has some nerve publishing a winner's information when they're not picking up that tab. They want the free publicity that comes with outing big winners, then they should advertise everything. Kidnapping and death threats. Stalking. Harassment. Hitmen. Murder.

                        They want to expose winners, winners should expose them right back. People like Tipton have no bearing on anything. It's their responsibility to have security measures in place to keep that from happening. Tipton isn't a reason to put lives in danger. He's a reason for MUSL  to get their act together and have more control of who they give access to what. Which other billion dollar enterprise has such laxity? Publishing a name is a pi$$ poor check and balance system.

                        I might wake up early and go running.  I might also wake up and win the lottery.

                        The odds are about the same.

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                          Posted: November 30, 2015, 6:52 pm - IP Logged

                          No harm done?  What about that poor transplanted Chicagoan who was a lottery winner and buried in concrete in his Florida driveway?  Maybe he was functionally illiterate and that 'woman' took advantage of this fact and took him to the double C's:  Cleaners and Cemetery.  Awful.

                          They didn't view that as a direct cause and effect of the lottery publishing his name. They may have a point because Shakespeare told a lot of people who hadn't known he'd won, that he'd won. Had this been a Camelot lottery, he would have been advised not to do that. Unfortunately, if you hand a person who can't read or write millions of dollars with no guidance, I really don't see anyway that was going to end well. I mean look at that father/son moron duo. Did anyone really think that was going to end any other way?

                          You know how experienced wedding planners can tell you exactly which couples will get a divorce? We know which winners are destined for the poor house. The publicity just speeds it along.

                          I might wake up early and go running.  I might also wake up and win the lottery.

                          The odds are about the same.

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                            Posted: November 30, 2015, 8:50 pm - IP Logged

                             I hope Brady McDevitt has a big gun because he might become the next Pain & Gain victim by accident.

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                              Posted: November 30, 2015, 9:27 pm - IP Logged

                              It depends on how your state law defines a person. In Virginia, it excludes a trust. DC allows a trust to claim money.

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