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Dutch court rules woman who won lottery during divorce can keep it all

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Posted: December 30, 2015, 1:05 am - IP Logged

WOW, that was bad...lol


Speaking of things Dutch, did you hear about the new movie Ron Howard is directing and starring in?  It's about a music teacher in The Netherlands and is called "Mr. Opie's Holland".

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    Posted: December 30, 2015, 2:42 am - IP Logged

    So, they are going Dutch?

    We all get a lot out of lotteries!

      Bondi Junction
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      Posted: December 30, 2015, 3:02 am - IP Logged

      Wonder if him moving out with the new women 4 yrs earlier had any effect (or is it affect? always get them reversed- lol!)

      She should at least buy him a pair of clogs!

      We all get a lot out of lotteries!

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        Posted: December 30, 2015, 10:28 am - IP Logged

        l got to thinking: The only way this" ex" could claim a portion of the wife's lottery win was him moving out & in with his new gf-  and the ex & him continued to pool their resources in playing the lottery. ...What are those chances of happening? .anyone,  anyone? Big Smile

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          Posted: December 30, 2015, 2:31 pm - IP Logged

          You surprised?  I'm not. He probably thought he was going to win twice in a row by ..

          1st: Ditching the wife and moving in with the girlfriend.

          2nd- attempting to royally screw the wife over by getting a share of HER money years after he left.The judge made the correct decision.

          "The judge made the correct decision. "

          I Agree! because this was an easy decision for the judge; she filed for divorce before she won the lottery. A divorce is no different than dissolving any contract and is usually specific on future earnings. Some people believe by suggesting there is a verbal contract between them and lottery winners, they have rights to a portion of the winnings.

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            Posted: December 30, 2015, 6:53 pm - IP Logged

             I was just reading about prenuptial agreements. I do not know if this is relevant to this discussion but it is an interesting topic. Especially when dealing with Lottery winners.

            Happy New Year !!!

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              Posted: December 30, 2015, 7:33 pm - IP Logged

              I believe his moving out four years earlier with a new women affected the judges decision to the effect of"NO LOTTO LOOT"!

              I agree.

              J'aime La France.

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                Posted: December 30, 2015, 7:37 pm - IP Logged

                Good for her, enjoy!

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                For a lead role in a cage?


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                  sherman oaks
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                  Posted: December 31, 2015, 12:08 am - IP Logged

                  Ha!Ha!Ha! That is what he gets!LOL! I am so happy that the wife got to keep all of these funds for herself...the ex doesn't deserve not one penny of it..SmashSmashSmash.perhaps him and his girlfriend can go in together and get their own lotto tixs...in the meantime I hope the wife is laughing all the way to the bank!BananaBananaBananaBananaBanana

                  I'M A WINNER!!!!!!!!Drum

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                    Posted: December 31, 2015, 7:17 am - IP Logged

                    This has got to be THE BEST Christmas lottery story...EVAH!!!

                    And three cheers for the Dutch judicial system who got it right. Party

                    This man has been separated from his wife for 4 years, and while he was shacked up with another woman, had his finances 100% separate and apart from his wife, and he feels he's entitled to half of her winnings from a ticket she bought AFTER they filed for divorce? Is he insane? They were separated in every way possible. That the courts hadn't gotten around to finalizing the divorce is a secondary matter. 

                    And that nonsense about buying tickets together for 30 years means he's entitled to a share is <snip>amamie baloney. I'm sure they also shared incomes and future plans together for those 30 years. Does that mean she's entitled to a share of everything he made or was gifted with after they'd filed for divorce? Puh-lease. 

                    Sometimes, not often, but sometimes karma and irony unite and gifts us with a twofer. This is one of those times. And it is a thing of beauty. Jester Laugh

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                    "Sometimes, not often, but sometimes karma and irony unite and gifts us with a twofer. This is one of those times. And it is a thing of beauty."  Jester Laugh

                    Right on, as usual, Teddi!  And very well phrased.

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                      Posted: December 31, 2015, 12:17 pm - IP Logged

                      "A divorce is no different than dissolving any contract and is usually specific on future earnings."

                      True enough, but the marriage contract isn't dissolved until the divorce is final. That there was a court case at all suggests that the applicable law is similar to what we have in the US, and your finances are assumed to be mingled as long as you're still married. Basing the ruling on the apparent fact that they separated their finances well before she bought the ticket makes obvious sense, but depending on what the law says a judge may not always have that option. There was an article here some time back about a couple that had finalized their divorce, but one of them sued for a share of a lottery prize anyway based (IIRC) on the divorce not stipulating that their finances were completely severed. I think they got some of the money.

                      It's also possible that because they were still married he could have been on the hook for her financial obligations, and may have been stuck paying off her credit cards and mortgage if she'd been hit by a bus instead of bought a winning lottery ticket. It's not equitable if he has to share in her bad fortune but can't share in her good fortune.

                      The obvious take away here is that if you're going to end the actual relationship you should make a point of ending the legal relationship, too.

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                        Posted: December 31, 2015, 4:49 pm - IP Logged

                        Kind of surprised it took that long to divorce him. He made his own bed when he moved in with his girlfriend 4 years ago. Glad to hear that there is still common sense justice in this world.

                        Yeah, Drenick1, apparently this woman is no stranger to prolonged financial & mental anguish and self-esteem dismantling!


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                          Posted: December 31, 2015, 10:46 pm - IP Logged

                          Had this been in the US and it were the other way around where the man won the lottery, how many think the soon to be ex wife would have been granted a share?

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                            Posted: January 2, 2016, 9:41 am - IP Logged

                            If it were the other way around in the Dutch courts or the US the man would have had to pay up. The court systems are so frikkin biased. He should at least get alimony or spousal support the woman would've been granted it.

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                              Posted: January 2, 2016, 12:18 pm - IP Logged

                              How would this have played out if this was in reverse?

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