Virginia lottery jackpot winners can stay anonymous, starting in July

Apr 5, 2019, 7:35 pm (49 comments)

Virginia Lottery

A new law passed by the Virginia General Assembly and signed by the Governor prohibits the Virginia Lottery from disclosing information about big jackpot winners.

The bill was unanimously passed by the House, and it passed the Senate in a vote of 34 to 5. A similar bill was introduced by Senator Lionell Spruill, Sr. who represents part of Chesapeake.

Governor Ralph Northam signed the bill into law on February 27.

When the bill goes into effect this summer, the Virginia Lottery will not be allowed to release certain information about winners whose prize exceeds $10 million, unless the winner wants to be known.

Under the current Freedom of Information Act, it is mandatory to disclose the winner's name, hometown, and the amount won.

The full bill text can be found below.

The legislation will go into effect on July 1, 2019.

Delaware, Kansas, Maryland, North Dakota, Ohio, South Carolina, Texas, and Wyoming all allow lottery winners to remain anonymous. Arizona and Georgia allow lottery winners to remain anonymous after winning a certain prize amount, like Virginia's new law.

Most states have laws allowing the lottery that sold the ticket to make such information public.

DOCUMENT: Read the full bill text

Thanks to Artist77 for the tip.

Lottery Post Staff

Comments

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Thank you Todd. Best lottery news ever since I never thought it would happen. I bet VA brings in a lot more money since a lot of VA residents buy at work in DC.

I read nothing in the law addressing retroactive winners so I assume this means if I win now, I can claim anonymously in 3 months. And I guess I will be using your lottery places app much less now in DC. 

Now on to the other states!!!

mswiz777's avatarmswiz777

           YES

hearsetrax's avatarhearsetrax

🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

 

 

music*'s avatarmusic*

This makes ten States who are looking out for their players. 

 All the winners still have the option to go public. 

 This reminds me of the change from mandatory Annuity to Cash Lump Sum. All have chosen the Cash with the exception of one player in San Francisco, CA. Change happens!

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Ryan Dela

I heard Wyoming is also an anonymous state it just is never reported in stories or articles like this one with the other states because Wyoming is a low population state and has never had a jackpot winner. Can someone verify this for me??

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

misic,

Just my $.02 here, but anyone in an anonymous state who goes public should immediately sent to a psychiatrist before doing so!

______________________________________________________________

As for Virginia;

/////////////////

And here's to brave Virginia

the Old Dominions state

to which the other anonymous states

has boldly joined her hand!

Hurrah! Hurrah! 

For the anonymous states Hurrah!

/////////////////////////////////////////

(Parody on the Bonnie Blue Flag from The Horse Soldiers with John Wayne)

Todd's avatarTodd

Quote: Originally posted by Ryan Dela on Apr 5, 2019

I heard Wyoming is also an anonymous state it just is never reported in stories or articles like this one with the other states because Wyoming is a low population state and has never had a jackpot winner. Can someone verify this for me??

Yes, Wyoming is an anonymous state.  Artist77 included that in her thread dedicated to the topic: https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/326232

I've updated the story to include Wyoming.

iWins

Thank goodness. I feel all lotteries & contests alike should give the option to have anonymous winners.

hearsetrax's avatarhearsetrax

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Apr 5, 2019

misic,

Just my $.02 here, but anyone in an anonymous state who goes public should immediately sent to a psychiatrist before doing so!

______________________________________________________________

As for Virginia;

/////////////////

And here's to brave Virginia

the Old Dominions state

to which the other anonymous states

has boldly joined her hand!

Hurrah! Hurrah! 

For the anonymous states Hurrah!

/////////////////////////////////////////

(Parody on the Bonnie Blue Flag from The Horse Soldiers with John Wayne)

LOL at your " just my $.02 " and I fully agree with you 

👽: engage the cloaking device

paymentplan-man

On one hand I do really like having some form of anonymity but 10 million is such a high number. So this would only apply to Mega Millions and Powerball. Still something is better than nothing :)

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by paymentplan-man on Apr 6, 2019

On one hand I do really like having some form of anonymity but 10 million is such a high number. So this would only apply to Mega Millions and Powerball. Still something is better than nothing :)

It does make sense on some level since there tends to be a lot of publicity for these 2 games.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Apr 5, 2019

misic,

Just my $.02 here, but anyone in an anonymous state who goes public should immediately sent to a psychiatrist before doing so!

______________________________________________________________

As for Virginia;

/////////////////

And here's to brave Virginia

the Old Dominions state

to which the other anonymous states

has boldly joined her hand!

Hurrah! Hurrah! 

For the anonymous states Hurrah!

/////////////////////////////////////////

(Parody on the Bonnie Blue Flag from The Horse Soldiers with John Wayne)

Great poem Coin Toss.  We did have a former obnoxious booted member who bragged about wanting the publicity and shouting it from his balcony.  Any guesses????

hearsetrax's avatarhearsetrax

Quote: Originally posted by paymentplan-man on Apr 6, 2019

On one hand I do really like having some form of anonymity but 10 million is such a high number. So this would only apply to Mega Millions and Powerball. Still something is better than nothing :)

I'm sure a fair amount of thought/energy was put into the numerous discussions

but as you said : " something is better then nothing "

 

or for that matter a price tag being attached for the option

Bleudog101

Almost unheard of:   Politicians actually caring enough about their constituents to pass common sense legislation that can protect big time winners.

 

Congratulations Virginia!

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Bleudog101 on Apr 6, 2019

Almost unheard of:   Politicians actually caring enough about their constituents to pass common sense legislation that can protect big time winners.

 

Congratulations Virginia!

Or Northam trying to distract us all! Lol

TheMeatman2005's avatarTheMeatman2005

§ 58.1-4029. Disclosure of identity of winners by the Department.
Except as provided in subsection B of § 58.1-4019, the Department shall not disclose information
about the identity of an individual lottery winner if the value of the prize won by the winner exceeds
$10 million, unless the winner consents in writing to such disclosure.

§ 58.1-4019. Certain persons ineligible to purchase tickets or shares or receive prizes.

A. No ticket or share shall be purchased by, and no prize shall be paid on a ticket purchased by or transferred to, any Board member, officer or employee of the lottery, or any board member, officer or employee of any vendor to the lottery of lottery on-line or instant ticket goods or services working directly on a contract with the Department for such goods or services, or any person residing in the same household of such member, officer or employee or any person under the age of eighteen years, or transferee of any such persons.

B. Only natural persons may purchase lottery tickets and claim prize winnings. In all cases, the identity and social security number of all natural persons who receive a prize greater than $100 from a winning ticket redeemed at any Department office shall be provided in order to comply with this section and §§  58.1-4015,  58.1-4016  and  58.1-4026, and Chapter 19 (§  63.2-1900  et seq.) of Title 63.2.

It doesn't say if the winner exceeds $10 million as an annuity jackpot amount or the cash value amount of said winnings.

In most instances the cash value amount is approximately 60% of the annuity amount. So, theoretically, a $16.66 millions annuity jackpot would be equivalent to about $10 mil cash.

With MM & PB the starting jackpot of $40 mil has a cash value of about $24 mil, so in either case those winners could remain anonymous.

Todd's avatarTodd

^^^ Understood what you're getting at with the lack of qualifying "cash" or "annuity", but it does say "...the value of the prize won...", and an annuity prize is indeed valued at the total payout amount (even though it takes many years to pay out), so I believe it would still qualify at the $10 million level for an annuity.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by TheMeatman2005 on Apr 6, 2019

§ 58.1-4029. Disclosure of identity of winners by the Department.
Except as provided in subsection B of § 58.1-4019, the Department shall not disclose information
about the identity of an individual lottery winner if the value of the prize won by the winner exceeds
$10 million, unless the winner consents in writing to such disclosure.

§ 58.1-4019. Certain persons ineligible to purchase tickets or shares or receive prizes.

A. No ticket or share shall be purchased by, and no prize shall be paid on a ticket purchased by or transferred to, any Board member, officer or employee of the lottery, or any board member, officer or employee of any vendor to the lottery of lottery on-line or instant ticket goods or services working directly on a contract with the Department for such goods or services, or any person residing in the same household of such member, officer or employee or any person under the age of eighteen years, or transferee of any such persons.

B. Only natural persons may purchase lottery tickets and claim prize winnings. In all cases, the identity and social security number of all natural persons who receive a prize greater than $100 from a winning ticket redeemed at any Department office shall be provided in order to comply with this section and §§  58.1-4015,  58.1-4016  and  58.1-4026, and Chapter 19 (§  63.2-1900  et seq.) of Title 63.2.

It doesn't say if the winner exceeds $10 million as an annuity jackpot amount or the cash value amount of said winnings.

In most instances the cash value amount is approximately 60% of the annuity amount. So, theoretically, a $16.66 millions annuity jackpot would be equivalent to about $10 mil cash.

With MM & PB the starting jackpot of $40 mil has a cash value of about $24 mil, so in either case those winners could remain anonymous.

Now that is how to cite to source info! I think it could be retroactive to now. Also I went to the VA website and notice a #10 million scratcher. It has to be the advertised  cash value. The annuity value seems remote too me.

Jubilance

My last ticket from Va is 6/26 so close!!!  I'm going back to Va!!!!

CDanaT's avatarCDanaT

After looking at the VA lottery site, it looks as though you have only 2 games that exceed the $10 Million and qualify for that anonymity option... PB, MM ....Or am I missing some ?

Todd's avatarTodd

Quote: Originally posted by CDanaT on Apr 6, 2019

After looking at the VA lottery site, it looks as though you have only 2 games that exceed the $10 Million and qualify for that anonymity option... PB, MM ....Or am I missing some ?

That's right, only PB and MM qualify from Virginia's draw games.  However, you're forgetting that it also includes scratch-off games, such as this one.

CDanaT's avatarCDanaT

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Apr 6, 2019

That's right, only PB and MM qualify from Virginia's draw games.  However, you're forgetting that it also includes scratch-off games, such as this one.

Todd, while I didn't examine the that particular scratcher and only looked at the $10 Million figure. That law talks about exceeding the $10 Million mark,so I considered $10,000,001 the starting point

Todd's avatarTodd

Quote: Originally posted by CDanaT on Apr 6, 2019

Todd, while I didn't examine the that particular scratcher and only looked at the $10 Million figure. That law talks about exceeding the $10 Million mark,so I considered $10,000,001 the starting point

I guess we'll have to see how that works after there is a $10 million winner in VA after July 1st.

CDanaT's avatarCDanaT

I will give VA credit, at least they are starting at a large dollar amount for anonymity. Now the trick is to get that figure down to a $1 Million or less.... Perhaps our "queen and the court jesters" of TN will follow suit. 

GOOD FOR YOU VA !!Patriot

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by TheMeatman2005 on Apr 6, 2019

§ 58.1-4029. Disclosure of identity of winners by the Department.
Except as provided in subsection B of § 58.1-4019, the Department shall not disclose information
about the identity of an individual lottery winner if the value of the prize won by the winner exceeds
$10 million, unless the winner consents in writing to such disclosure.

§ 58.1-4019. Certain persons ineligible to purchase tickets or shares or receive prizes.

A. No ticket or share shall be purchased by, and no prize shall be paid on a ticket purchased by or transferred to, any Board member, officer or employee of the lottery, or any board member, officer or employee of any vendor to the lottery of lottery on-line or instant ticket goods or services working directly on a contract with the Department for such goods or services, or any person residing in the same household of such member, officer or employee or any person under the age of eighteen years, or transferee of any such persons.

B. Only natural persons may purchase lottery tickets and claim prize winnings. In all cases, the identity and social security number of all natural persons who receive a prize greater than $100 from a winning ticket redeemed at any Department office shall be provided in order to comply with this section and §§  58.1-4015,  58.1-4016  and  58.1-4026, and Chapter 19 (§  63.2-1900  et seq.) of Title 63.2.

It doesn't say if the winner exceeds $10 million as an annuity jackpot amount or the cash value amount of said winnings.

In most instances the cash value amount is approximately 60% of the annuity amount. So, theoretically, a $16.66 millions annuity jackpot would be equivalent to about $10 mil cash.

With MM & PB the starting jackpot of $40 mil has a cash value of about $24 mil, so in either case those winners could remain anonymous.

I sense a bit of controversy in the future. Paragraph B above states: Only natural persons may purchase lottery tickets and claim prize winnings.

In the USAMEGA  FAQ section it states:

Can non-US citizens play?  What if a non-US citizen wins? 
Yes, non-US citizens can legally play, and non-US citizens are eligible to win any prize offered in the game.

If a non-US citizen wins, they would claim their prize in the same manner that a US citizen would, but the taxes withheld would be different. For example, federal withholding for non-US citizens is a flat 30%.  Also, individual states may have different tax structures for non-US citizens than they do for US citizens.  Depending on which country the person is a legal resident of, there also may be tax treaties between the US and that other country which could be helpful in offsetting whatever the US tax liabilities are.

In short, non-US citizens can play and win Mega Millions.  If a non-US citizen wins a large prize, they will be responsible for some amount of tax, which in the end will probably be an amount similar to what a US citizen would pay, but there are so many possible variations with international tax codes that you'll need to consult with a local tax attorney if you need to know a precise amount of tax liability.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Apr 6, 2019

I sense a bit of controversy in the future. Paragraph B above states: Only natural persons may purchase lottery tickets and claim prize winnings.

In the USAMEGA  FAQ section it states:

Can non-US citizens play?  What if a non-US citizen wins? 
Yes, non-US citizens can legally play, and non-US citizens are eligible to win any prize offered in the game.

If a non-US citizen wins, they would claim their prize in the same manner that a US citizen would, but the taxes withheld would be different. For example, federal withholding for non-US citizens is a flat 30%.  Also, individual states may have different tax structures for non-US citizens than they do for US citizens.  Depending on which country the person is a legal resident of, there also may be tax treaties between the US and that other country which could be helpful in offsetting whatever the US tax liabilities are.

In short, non-US citizens can play and win Mega Millions.  If a non-US citizen wins a large prize, they will be responsible for some amount of tax, which in the end will probably be an amount similar to what a US citizen would pay, but there are so many possible variations with international tax codes that you'll need to consult with a local tax attorney if you need to know a precise amount of tax liability.

Natural person just means a person vs a legal entity like a trust or llc. It has nothing to do with their citizenship status .

noise-gate

I have yet to hear of a lottery clerk asking " Are you a citizen of the United States, if not we cannot take your money to play our games."  I am convinced there would be lawyers salivating at the idea of taking on those cases in order to get their names out there.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Apr 6, 2019

Natural person just means a person vs a legal entity like a trust or llc. It has nothing to do with their citizenship status .

Thanks for the clarification! Thumbs Up

TheMeatman2005's avatarTheMeatman2005

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Apr 6, 2019

Natural person just means a person vs a legal entity like a trust or llc. It has nothing to do with their citizenship status .

I Agree!

Natural Woman Carole King

alsmurf4's avataralsmurf4

Quote: Originally posted by Bleudog101 on Apr 6, 2019

Almost unheard of:   Politicians actually caring enough about their constituents to pass common sense legislation that can protect big time winners.

 

Congratulations Virginia!

They usually care only about their re-election; they probably figure this will get them a few more votes.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by TheMeatman2005 on Apr 6, 2019

I Agree!

Natural Woman Carole King

Wow Tmm- Carole still looks pretty hot for a 77 year old. I can see her causing  a 60's or 70 something's male's temperature coming to a boil.

MillionsWanted's avatarMillionsWanted

People caring about their anonymity will not play until the jackpot reaches 10 millions.

Bleudog101

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Apr 6, 2019

That's right, only PB and MM qualify from Virginia's draw games.  However, you're forgetting that it also includes scratch-off games, such as this one.

And the funny thing is PB & MM minimum jackpots are $40 million.  But they did the right thing IMHO by passing this.

Bleudog101

Quote: Originally posted by alsmurf4 on Apr 6, 2019

They usually care only about their re-election; they probably figure this will get them a few more votes.

alsmurf4, please keep us posted on any tidbits you may hear about regarding up the upcoming Mississippi lottery.  Hope it is not a smokescreen and not go through this year@

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Bleudog101 on Apr 7, 2019

And the funny thing is PB & MM minimum jackpots are $40 million.  But they did the right thing IMHO by passing this.

Bleudog101,

Maybe those running things in Virginia are planning on a state game with a jackpot that will start at or progress to $10M.

Just a thought.

LottoLucy's avatarLottoLucy

What fantastic news!  Hopefully more states will follow suit.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LottoLucy on Apr 7, 2019

What fantastic news!  Hopefully more states will follow suit.

It is fantastic news LL, but not for us out here on the West Coast. The CA Lottery Commission are hard-shelled advocates of what they call " Transparency." Oh, other States may go for anonymity for jackpot winners, but not us.We live by higher standard, for instance we have company parties where " anything goes" - we not going to follow other States in doing what they doing. We not called the " Golden State" for nothing, we have the gold* Hollywood,  Disneyland & whoever has the gold, makes the rules, we don't follow ,we lead.Disapprove  Our lottery rules on anonymity are run by a sack of liquid Cr..bureaucrats.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by LottoLucy on Apr 7, 2019

What fantastic news!  Hopefully more states will follow suit.

VA lottery needs to update their website.

Bleudog101

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Apr 7, 2019

VA lottery needs to update their website.

A few websites out there need updating IMHO, some are much easier to navigate than others and believe me with playing in different states I know.

FB/KLC had a post this morning and I wrote back regarding if I won the big one playing on-line how do I get your office to write separate checks like they would if you played in the store?  We'll see what they respond with, they're very good about it.  Again, back to websites; have emailed MA & MI lottery some time ago questions and they just don't bother to respond.

cottoneyedjoe's avatarcottoneyedjoe

Any thoughts on what prompted the VA legislature to support anonymity? Did they conduct a survey that showed a large proportion of lottery players in MD border area buy their tickets on the other side to take advantage of their well-established anonymity rules?

GoogilyMoogily

Quote: Originally posted by cottoneyedjoe on Apr 8, 2019

Any thoughts on what prompted the VA legislature to support anonymity? Did they conduct a survey that showed a large proportion of lottery players in MD border area buy their tickets on the other side to take advantage of their well-established anonymity rules?

"Want to Keep Your Lottery Winnings a Secret? Buy in Maryland" -MSNBC, channel 4 Washington DC, 2013.  Lots of advertising around NOVA to drive to MD at one time.  Best ads MD lottery had were to VA.  I can see that playing a role in their decision.  A long time ago I worked on one side of southern Charlotte, but lived on the other side.  The easiest and lightest traffic route was through SC.  Tons of chatter when SC implemented the lottery.  I recall Charlotte Mecklenburg council belly aching about "lost revenue".  Three years after SC, NC became a lotto state if I have my dates correct.  Such are politician attitudes towards lotto sales and free tax revenues I suppose.  Now I have to win big IRL and wait for July to get here LOL

iWins

I like that yes, sounds like you mean it lol

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by cottoneyedjoe on Apr 8, 2019

Any thoughts on what prompted the VA legislature to support anonymity? Did they conduct a survey that showed a large proportion of lottery players in MD border area buy their tickets on the other side to take advantage of their well-established anonymity rules?

Money. A lot Northern VA people work in DC and know about a big pb win where the DC winner claimed via a trust. Remember 1 of 8 people in DC are attorneys, supposedly (some may be in other fields).

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Maybe Virginia is planning a game with a jackpot ceiling of $9,999,999.....after July!

Prob988

Now they'll be no questions asked when they're all named Donald, Don Jr., Eric, Ivanka and Jared.

hearsetrax's avatarhearsetrax

Quote: Originally posted by Prob988 on Apr 10, 2019

Now they'll be no questions asked when they're all named Donald, Don Jr., Eric, Ivanka and Jared.

🤨and when are you buying your ticket to a nother country ??

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Prob988 on Apr 10, 2019

Now they'll be no questions asked when they're all named Donald, Don Jr., Eric, Ivanka and Jared.

Just a hunch, but I'd be willing to bet none of them play the lottery.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by hearsetrax on Apr 10, 2019

🤨and when are you buying your ticket to a nother country ??

You and Coin Toss are winning with the best comments. Lol

hearsetrax's avatarhearsetrax

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Apr 11, 2019

You and Coin Toss are winning with the best comments. Lol

👴if you want to know the secret to being old and sick to death of those who have nothing but the 1001 scapegoats 

PM me jejeje

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