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Posted: February 13, 2005, 1:08 pm - IP Logged
Quote: Originally posted by Badger on February 12, 2005




 I leanred this early on trying to play "longest out sums" in Pick 3.  Yeah, sure, the longest out sum is "due" and it will hit.....but it could go a month or more before it does. ANd then if you do hit a winner, you have won "nothing" because all your winnings were already eaten-up in the previous bets.


Probably too long winded a response. But I'm still answering the original question, which requires anindividual  perception of what a "good bet" is.... like at the moment, me, personally, nothing is hitting or working. So tomorrow I'm spending a whole $2.50 on the DC mid day 60X wheeled straight, only because the 60 pair in the 1 and 2 postion has been out the longest. If it comes in, I'll faint. But considering all the stuff that isn't working, I'll still have something to look at in terms of the results. IOW, it gives me a "play" for tomorrow, and it has -- so it seems -- as much chance of hitting as anything else lately.  Would I call this a "good bet"? HAH ! Not hardly ! Still...60X has to come in someday.





 What about the 9*-5*-0 digits

    maybe digits are better bets

Its a 3 digit game I know. 

    JAP69's avatar - alas
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    Posted: February 13, 2005, 1:09 pm - IP Logged

     

    What I am looking at here are the eve draws for South Carolina.
    I listed them box order.


    0 28 31.1%                                              036 045
    ___________079 014 057 046 049 069 018 037
    ___________008 057 027 045 039 047 079 015
    ___________034 068 028 035 026 029 059 018
    ___________047 026 034 017
     
    1 21 23.3%                                                    159
    ___________155 166 138 145 014 139 188 018
    ___________136 015 188 115 168 122 178 118
    ___________156 134 018 017 156
     
    2 23 25.6%                                                    244
    ___________289 229 269 255 267 247 268 268
    ___________239 027 228 244 268 028 026 229
    ___________122 029 223 238 026 259 235
     
    3 26 28.9%                                      399 036 349
    ___________333 389 389 138 139 337 366 037
    ___________239 136 348 039 338 369 389 034
    ___________368 035 378 378 134 223 238 034
    ___________235 344

    4 21 23.3%                                       244 349 045
    ___________469 145 479 014 046 049 247 348
    ___________045 446 244 047 458 034 446 489
    ___________134 047 457 034 344

    5 21 23.3%                                      588 159 045
    ___________569 155 145 255 057 579 057 045
    ___________568 015 458 115 035 578 059 156
    ___________579 457 259 235 156
     
    6 26 28.9%                                                     036
    ___________469 689 569 166 269 366 046 267
    ___________069 268 268 136 446 369 568 268
    ___________688 068 368 446 026 168 668 156
    ___________026 156

    7 21 23.3%
    ___________079 479 337 057 267 247 037 579
    ___________057 027 047 079 799 378 578 178
    ___________378 579 047 457 017
     
    8 32 35.6%                                                     588
    ___________389 289 689 389 138 188 268 268
    ___________018 008 348 228 338 568 188 268
    ___________458 389 688 068 368 028 378 168
    ___________489 578 178 378 668 118 018 238
     
    9 26 28.9%                                      399 349 159
    ___________469 389 289 689 569 389 229 079
    ___________269 479 139 049 069 239 579 039
    ___________369 079 799 389 229 489 029 059
    ___________579 259

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       My ...My...John.... that's just too good. Very interesting. 

        No  one loves the game more than Jap69 ...noooo one.  

       Do you have the 6 ways that have not hit in the last 365 evening or day John? You know...that Tier O .....that i voted  for. LOL

       

       

      The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                    Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                    Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                             Win d    

        JAP69's avatar - alas
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        Posted: February 13, 2005, 1:12 pm - IP Logged
        Quote: Originally posted by MADDOG10 on February 13, 2005


         obvious or not john, excellent stats for comparison...!


        Thanks Maddog.
        I have found a couple for the money already.

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          Posted: February 13, 2005, 1:16 pm - IP Logged

           

          To look for a couple digits for the draw I will look in the number types columns. Tonight I will be looking in the stack where the xs are

          Number Types:
          Singles 60 75.9%
          ______________________________________xxx
          _________________068 569 036 147 049 349 568
          _________________159 689 045 469 256 389 678
          _________________289 046 689 569 938 761 378
          _________________138 138 079 079 269 145 479
          _________________267 019 014 139 479 137 469
          _________________057 468 046 169 267 079 049
          _________________046 247 345 069 179 268 268
          _________________089 018 037 013 239 049 247
          _________________136 067 348 579

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            Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on February 13, 2005



             I guess no one else knows what a good bet is either Badger. I already said what i believe is a good bet. It's one that wins most of the time. That could be 51% or 60% or 90% of the time.

                Find any situation of 50/50...... and find it having hit that way 10 times in a row...oh boy!

              Then..... bet it to go the other way. You will be right over 90% of the time.  You may only see it once a yr. in your State's game.... but that would be a great big opportunity to me. Put that with other current  info stats .....its even better.  

             It will still be a GAMBLE..... when it stops being that way ...so will the game.  Until then ...anything that cuts the odds down nearer to  50% is a better bet ....more than that is a good bet.  (relative to Pick 3 anyway

             In Vegas the worst odds are generally found in the Slot machines ......but guess what?  Slot machine odds are approx. 15 times better than Pick 3. Now that's crummy odds.  We really shouldn't play this stupid game you know.





            I agree with you rlast comment. But I play anyway for a couple of reasons. (and I suspect I'm not the only one, if players have ever examined their motivations)

            First, as crummy as the odds are (even compared to slots) the Pick 3 is the only online game with the best odds. (which just goes to show what a lousy deal the states give us) -- and you can at least lower the odds a significant percentage in Pick 3 (even thought the odds will still be lousy) whereas, in the jackpot games, no matter what you do, with them starting out at millions-to-one against you, there is little you can do to lower the odds.

            Secondly, in Pick 3 as opposed to slots, you at least feel (at least in perception) that you are doing something other than just playing for 100% luck. On slots, you have no "say" in what happens at all. You just feed the monster your money and push the button and hope. It's the same if you play online games or daily games and buy a quickpick. At least in Pick 3 you can feel a little like you are doing more than simply following blind luck. You can feel when you win that you "had something to do with it".  And until a "better" game (with lower odds) comes along, we're stuck with it. I'm not holding my breath.

            ============

            How can you tell if a politician is lying?

            Answer: His lips are moving.

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              Posted: February 13, 2005, 7:27 pm - IP Logged
              Quote: Originally posted by Blackapple on February 13, 2005



               What about the 9*-5*-0 digits

                  maybe digits are better bets

              Its a 3 digit game I know. 





              Well how about any three digits? The games change contantly. If you had been playing the 950 for the last 1400 or so draws in the Illinois Mid Day, you would have lost 1400 or so days in a row; since that's how long that combination has been out since last drawn. (hasn't hit since 9/16/2000) If you had been betting a buck a day on it, you'd still be 900 bucks in the hole if you played it tomorrow and it hit.

              It's like WIN D showed in another thread. He posted one single prediction (123) and said "good for 30 days in all states". Within 3 or 4 days it hit....in Minnesota. It showed that you can put up predictions for "all states" over a long period and its going to hit somewhere. Unfortunately, what is needed to avoid losing one's shirt is to know where a combination will hit and when. Not being able to do that is why we all lose more drawings than we win. All pairs and all combinations will hit at some time or another, especially with the 40-some games played each day. But nailing them down to a small window and a specific game is what the difficulty is....Doing less is why it is so difficult to play for a profit. And the farther one gets in the "red", the harder/longer it takes to get back into the "black" again. That's when "winning" isn't really "winning".

              ============

              How can you tell if a politician is lying?

              Answer: His lips are moving.

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                 Here's a pretty good example of what I call a "good bet"

                  This is for PA. midday only....Feb 14th.  Check out the middle position ..... all even numbers....so if its 50/50 and that means  7 Heads in a row right? I will bet today using other filters as well.......but number one will be an odd number in the middle.  If it loses .....fine ...probability and history say it was a damn good bet !

                      Here's another good bet example.....up until that 943 hit yesterday....notice that every draw up until then was at least 2 even digits.... 6 days in a row!  Then yesterday ....ofcourse it flipped the other way..Tails!



                SUN 02/13/059-4-3
                SAT 02/12/050-0-8
                FRI 02/11/058-4-9
                THU 02/10/054-6-7
                WED 02/09/058-2-3
                TUE 02/08/054-2-4
                MON 02/07/054-6-8
                SUN 02/06/059-5-9
                SAT 02/05/051-8-1
                FRI 02/04/055-9-3
                THU 02/03/051-4-7
                WED 02/02/052-7-4
                TUE 02/01/056-1-4
                MON 01/31/055-6-7
                SUN 01/30/057-7-9
                SAT 01/29/051-0-9

                 

                 

                The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                              Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                              Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                       Win d    

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                            No Pity!Guitar  Drum ........ in the long run........

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                    Quote: Originally posted by Badger on February 13, 2005



                    Quote: Originally posted by Blackapple on February 13, 2005



                       





                    Well how about any three digits? The games change contantly. If you had been playing the 950 for the last 1400 or so draws in the Illinois Mid Day, you would have lost 1400 or so days in a row; since that's how long that combination has been out since last drawn. (hasn't hit since 9/16/2000) If you had been betting a buck a day on it, you'd still be 900 bucks in the hole if you played it tomorrow and it hit.

                    It's like WIN D showed in another thread. He posted one single prediction (123) and said "good for 30 days in all states". Within 3 or 4 days it hit....in Minnesota. It showed that you can put up predictions for "all states" over a long period and its going to hit somewhere. Unfortunately, what is needed to avoid losing one's shirt is to know where a combination will hit and when. Not being able to do that is why we all lose more drawings than we win. All pairs and all combinations will hit at some time or another, especially with the 40-some games played each day. But nailing them down to a small window and a specific game is what the difficulty is....Doing less is why it is so difficult to play for a profit. And the farther oneets in the "red", the harder/longer it takes to get back into the "black" again. That's when "winning" isn't really "winning".





                          I see what you mean but some of us are more

                        optimistic.Many retain their belief.I read

                        Win D's article on being lucky,Plus watching

                          these cats

                          http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/69530?q=Sedertree

                      and this fella

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/72636?q=libra

                    if they can calculate why can't I?

                    Not to mention allowing your gut-feeling

                     to assist(BIRD).

                       

                     

                         

                         

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                       The results........ Odd digit hit in the Middle Position as expected. It was just a good bet......Now its a great bet.. LOL


                       




                      Mon, Feb 14, 20053-7-2
                      Sun, Feb 13, 20059-4-3
                      Sat, Feb 12, 20050-0-8
                      Fri, Feb 11, 20058-4-9
                      Thu, Feb 10, 20054-6-7
                      Wed, Feb 9, 20058-2-3
                      Tue, Feb 8, 20054-2-4
                      Mon, Feb 7, 20054-6-8
                      Sun, Feb 6, 20059-5-9
                      Sat, Feb 5, 20051-8-1


                       

                       

                      The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                    Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                    Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                             Win d    

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                        There was the obvious for today 02/04/05
                        I did not pick any plays for mid. Played two combinations with the 09 pair tonight. The wrong ones chosen of course. Had other plays besides the 09 pair tonight.
                        I had chosen the 18 and 09 pair yesterday before the eve draw for plays. Just getting my brain hooked up on this new strategy before I play all the combos in a pair chosen. Dry runs as you have it.
                        If the patterns continue like this it is the best paper and pencil I have seen in the 20 years I have been tracking.
                        I have checked many other states on this and the patterns are there.

                        Results
                        02/13 eve 812
                        02/14 mid 763
                        02/14 eve 906
                        Key Numbers:
                        0 23 29.1%                                           906
                        ___________806 306 490 540 640 097 790
                        ___________707 901 410 570 604 907 409
                        ___________460 069 089 108 703 103 490
                        ___________800 607

                        1 19 24.1%                                           812
                        ___________714 951 155 761 166 813 318
                        ___________451 901 410 391 173 188 916
                        ___________971 108 311 103 361

                        2 14 17.7%                                            812
                        ___________424 265 298 229 926 726 525
                        ___________332 726 274 826 826 239 247
                         
                        3 23 29.1%                                           763
                        ___________399 306 349 334 333 389 938
                        ___________387 813 318 733 332 391 733
                        ___________173 663 435 311 703 103 239
                        ___________361 843

                        4 24 30.4%
                        ___________714 424 490 349 540 946 334
                        ___________640 944 949 451 794 410 794
                        ___________469 684 604 409 460 274 435
                        ___________490 247 843
                         
                        5 12 15.2%                                           885
                        ___________596 856 951 540 265 965 155
                        ___________451 525 570 435 759

                        6 27 34.2%                                     906 763
                        ___________806 596 306 856 689 946 265
                        ___________786 640 689 965 761 166 926
                        ___________726 663 469 684 604 916 726
                        ___________460 069 826 826 361 607
                         
                        7 23 29.1%                                           763
                        ___________714 786 761 387 733 097 790
                        ___________707 794 726 794 733 173 570
                        ___________726 907 274 971 703 247 607
                        ___________759 779

                        8 19 24.1%                                     812 885
                        ___________806 856 689 389 786 298 689
                        ___________938 387 813 318 188 684 826
                        ___________826 089 108 800 843

                        9 33 41.8%                                          906
                        ___________399 596 490 349 951 689 946
                        ___________389 298 689 944 965 949 938
                        ___________229 097 790 926 794 901 391
                        ___________794 469 916 907 409 069 971
                        ___________089 239 490 759 779

                        Number Types:
                        Singles 60 75.9%
                        _________________                          906 763 812 _________________806 596 306 714 490 349 856
                        _________________951 689 540 946 265 389 786
                        _________________298 640 689 965 938 761 387
                        _________________813 318 097 790 926 451 794
                        _________________726 901 410 391 794 173 469
                        _________________570 684 604 916 726 907 409
                        _________________460 274 435 069 971 826 826
                        _________________089 108 703 103 239 490 247
                        _________________361 607 843 759

                        Doubles 18 22.8%                                            885
                        _________________399 424 334 944 949 155 229
                        _________________166 733 707 525 332 733 663
                        _________________188 311 800 779

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                          Quote: Originally posted by Blackapple on February 13, 2005



                          Quote: Originally posted by Badger on February 12, 2005




                           I leanred this early on trying to play "longest out sums" in Pick 3.  Yeah, sure, the longest out sum is "due" and it will hit.....but it could go a month or more before it does. ANd then if you do hit a winner, you have won "nothing" because all your winnings were already eaten-up in the previous bets.


                          Probably too long winded a response. But I'm still answering the original question, which requires anindividual  perception of what a "good bet" is.... like at the moment, me, personally, nothing is hitting or working. So tomorrow I'm spending a whole $2.50 on the DC mid day 60X wheeled straight, only because the 60 pair in the 1 and 2 postion has been out the longest. If it comes in, I'll faint. But considering all the stuff that isn't working, I'll still have something to look at in terms of the results. IOW, it gives me a "play" for tomorrow, and it has -- so it seems -- as much chance of hitting as anything else lately.  Would I call this a "good bet"? HAH ! Not hardly ! Still...60X has to come in someday.





                           What about the 9*-5*-0 digits

                              maybe digits are better bets

                          Its a 3 digit game I know. 





                                  900 came D.C.  midday 2/14

                                    In your response

                                  Well how about any three digits? The games change contantly. If you had been playing the 950 for the last 1400 or so draws in the Illinois Mid Day, you would have lost 1400 or so days in a row; since that's how long that combination has been out since last drawn. (hasn't hit since 9/16/2000) If you had been betting a buck a day on it, you'd still be 900* bucks in the hole if you played it tomorrow and it hit

                              The digits 9-5-0 were the longest out digits

                              for D.C.making pairs 09-50-95 and a strategy

                              was an option. Learn to be more creative and

                              optimistic.

                                   

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                             Say John...... This little sentence in your post up there interest me...LOL  Maybe you could run that past again cause i'm a little slow on the up take ....thanks. 

                            There was the obvious for today 02/04/05
                            I did not pick any plays for mid. Played two combinations with the 09 pair tonight. The wrong ones chosen of course. Had other plays besides the 09 pair tonight.
                            I had chosen the 18 and 09 pair yesterday before the eve draw for plays. Just getting my brain hooked up on this new strategy before I play all the combos in a pair chosen. Dry runs as you have it.
                            If the patterns continue like this it is the best paper and pencil I have seen in the 20 years I have been tracking
                            I have checked many other states on this and the patterns are there.

                            Results
                            02/13 eve 812
                            02/14 mid 763
                            02/14 eve 906
                            Key Numbers:
                            0 23 29.1%                                           906
                            ___________806 306 490 540 640 097 790
                            ___________707 901 410 570 604 907 409
                            ___________460 069 089 108 703 103 490
                            ___________800 607

                             

                             

                            The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                          Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                          Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                                   Win d    

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                              Yes i think there a good bets if you have the forsight to see it. A few days ago in a powertrails workout the top 3 numbers were 123 and without hesitation i thought to myself that it has been a while since this combo has been drawn. Sure enough last night 213 made it to the winners circle. now if my gut feeling had kicked in and i had put say 10/20/50 dollars on it i would be one easy street for a while. Don't ask me why i didn't play it, i played 217 because i had a feeling about it.