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Lotto South- Potential New Draw Days

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What if Lotto South were to move to Mondays and Thursdays? Would you like that better?

Yes. [ 11 ]  [78.57%]
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Posted: November 16, 2005, 4:41 pm - IP Logged

Ya'll seem to be missing the point, in regards to Lotto South.  It was never meant to compete directly with PB/MM, which is why the Lotto South states also offer PB/MM.  If they wanted Lotto South to compete with PB/MM, they would have just dropped those large jackpot games and only had Lotto South, forcing people to put all their money into Lotto South.

They have both games because they're both different, exactly as they intended it to be.  They know that many people don't care for the astronomical odds that PB/MM offer, so they obviously wanted to get a game that would attract those buyers.  Hence, Lotto South.  It provides a nice sized jackpot, with much better odds than PB/MM.

If they start increasing the Lotto South matrix or changing it to closer match PB/MM, then they will have completely changed the whole point of having it in the first place.  And my question is, who exactly is going to be attracted to Lotto South if they increase the matrix?

PB/MM players?  Nope, because the Lotto South jackpots would still be much smaller than PB/MM.

Lotto South players?  Nope, because the reason they play the game is for the smaller odds.  You'll actually LOSE some of these players.

5-Number lottery game players?  Nope, because they obviously thought Lotto South's odds were too high to begin with.

Many states realize this, which is why more and more often they are replacing lottery games with a game that has a SMALLER matrix (Ohio is the latest example).  I'm not really sure why Kentucky is dropping why Lotto South, but I'm assuming it's because they think the matrix is too high.  Are they replacing it with a game that has a smaller matrix?

If a state only had Lotto South and not PB/MM, I could understand the argument for a larger matrix, but as it is, I don't see how a larger matrix will help more than hurt.

I'm curious to hear counter arguments to this debate.

 

I still believe Lotto South's matrix is too small (compare the total populations of Georgia, Kentucky, and Virginia, with New Jersey, which also has a 6/49), especially given that it's a multi-state game that could have (and should have) been offered in at least a fourth state (eg Louisiana, South Carolina). And if KY thinks the LS matrix is too BIG, why did it join LS in the first place?

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    I'm not really sure what the Kentucky Lottery's reasonings were for joining Lotto South.  Maybe lottery players in Kentucky aren't playing Lotto South as much as they anticipated.

    I wouldn't be surprised if the reason Kentucky's dropping it is because Kentucky players rarely win.  Georgia and Virginia almost always win the jackpots.  Of course, Kentucky lottery players are actually in an enviable position, because most of the money that raises the jackpot amount is coming from Georgia and Virginia, which means Kentucky players only have to put in a little for the chance of a large return.

    With respect to raising the matrix, maybe it wouldn't bother me if they also gave us an alternative.  I believe Georgia used to have a 6/44 Georgia Lotto before Lotto South.  If they increased the matrix AND brought back the 6/44 Georgia Lotto, then I would be fine with that.  But if they raise the matrix and don't give us an alternative, most of us will probably just find a better out-of-state game or put our money into the Pick-5 games.

    Just my opinion.

     


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      Posted: November 17, 2005, 9:39 am - IP Logged

      Kentucky is losing businesssince Tennessee has started their lottery.  The same will happen to neighboring states when North Carolina institutes their games. The lower-level games will continue to lose ground to the two largest games.

      Leaving Lotto South won't necessarily help them regain sales.  Increasing the matrix definitely doesn't help a smaller state such as Kentucky.  Shrinking the matrix and having more frequent jackpot winners is an approach that they haven't tried. Hot Lotto's odds are about 10 million to 1 for states that are home to 15 million residents.  Lotto South's odds are somewhat higher in proportion to their states' total population of 20 million.  Reducing it to a 6/44 lottery would not be an unreasonable decision.

       


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        Posted: November 17, 2005, 10:06 am - IP Logged

        I'm not really sure what the Kentucky Lottery's reasonings were for joining Lotto South.  Maybe lottery players in Kentucky aren't playing Lotto South as much as they anticipated.

        I wouldn't be surprised if the reason Kentucky's dropping it is because Kentucky players rarely win.  Georgia and Virginia almost always win the jackpots.  Of course, Kentucky lottery players are actually in an enviable position, because most of the money that raises the jackpot amount is coming from Georgia and Virginia, which means Kentucky players only have to put in a little for the chance of a large return.

        With respect to raising the matrix, maybe it wouldn't bother me if they also gave us an alternative.  I believe Georgia used to have a 6/44 Georgia Lotto before Lotto South.  If they increased the matrix AND brought back the 6/44 Georgia Lotto, then I would be fine with that.  But if they raise the matrix and don't give us an alternative, most of us will probably just find a better out-of-state game or put our money into the Pick-5 games.

        Just my opinion.

         

        Lotto Georgia was 6/46. IIRC Lotto Kentucky was 6/42, and Lotto Virginia became Lotto South without changing the 6/49 matrix.

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          Posted: November 17, 2005, 2:28 pm - IP Logged

          I'm not really sure what the Kentucky Lottery's reasonings were for joining Lotto South.  Maybe lottery players in Kentucky aren't playing Lotto South as much as they anticipated.

          I wouldn't be surprised if the reason Kentucky's dropping it is because Kentucky players rarely win.  Georgia and Virginia almost always win the jackpots.  Of course, Kentucky lottery players are actually in an enviable position, because most of the money that raises the jackpot amount is coming from Georgia and Virginia, which means Kentucky players only have to put in a little for the chance of a large return.

          With respect to raising the matrix, maybe it wouldn't bother me if they also gave us an alternative.  I believe Georgia used to have a 6/44 Georgia Lotto before Lotto South.  If they increased the matrix AND brought back the 6/44 Georgia Lotto, then I would be fine with that.  But if they raise the matrix and don't give us an alternative, most of us will probably just find a better out-of-state game or put our money into the Pick-5 games.

          Just my opinion.

           

          Lotto Georgia was 6/46. IIRC Lotto Kentucky was 6/42, and Lotto Virginia became Lotto South without changing the 6/49 matrix.

          Thanks for the info., CASH Only.  I've only been playing the lottery for a few years, so I wasn't sure what Georgia used to have before Lotto South.

          I googled "Lotto Georgia" to see what it was like, and it appears that it was a pretty good game.  It started at $2 million, similar to Lotto South, but the odds of winning were about 1 in 7 million (Lotto South's odds are double, at roughly 1 in 14 million).

          For the draws that I saw, the jackpot rolled over $1 million each time, which, again, is the same as Lotto South.  Some of the jackpots got pretty large for this 6/46 game (For example, the jackpot got up to $28 million in 1994). 

          I can understand now why some of the Georgia lottery players that post here say they liked Lotto Georgia better than Lotto South.  The only negative I can find with Lotto Georgia is that it only had 1 draw per week.  But with the odds of winning much, much better than Lotto South, and having roughly the same size jackpots, I personally wouldn't mind if they went back to using Lotto Georgia again.

          Just my opinion.

           


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            Posted: November 17, 2005, 2:59 pm - IP Logged

            I'm not really sure what the Kentucky Lottery's reasonings were for joining Lotto South.  Maybe lottery players in Kentucky aren't playing Lotto South as much as they anticipated.

            I wouldn't be surprised if the reason Kentucky's dropping it is because Kentucky players rarely win.  Georgia and Virginia almost always win the jackpots.  Of course, Kentucky lottery players are actually in an enviable position, because most of the money that raises the jackpot amount is coming from Georgia and Virginia, which means Kentucky players only have to put in a little for the chance of a large return.

            With respect to raising the matrix, maybe it wouldn't bother me if they also gave us an alternative.  I believe Georgia used to have a 6/44 Georgia Lotto before Lotto South.  If they increased the matrix AND brought back the 6/44 Georgia Lotto, then I would be fine with that.  But if they raise the matrix and don't give us an alternative, most of us will probably just find a better out-of-state game or put our money into the Pick-5 games.

            Just my opinion.

             

            Lotto Georgia was 6/46. IIRC Lotto Kentucky was 6/42, and Lotto Virginia became Lotto South without changing the 6/49 matrix.

            Thanks for the info., CASH Only.  I've only been playing the lottery for a few years, so I wasn't sure what Georgia used to have before Lotto South.

            I googled "Lotto Georgia" to see what it was like, and it appears that it was a pretty good game.  It started at $2 million, similar to Lotto South, but the odds of winning were about 1 in 7 million (Lotto South's odds are double, at roughly 1 in 14 million).

            For the draws that I saw, the jackpot rolled over $1 million each time, which, again, is the same as Lotto South.  Some of the jackpots got pretty large for this 6/46 game (For example, the jackpot got up to $28 million in 1994). 

            I can understand now why some of the Georgia lottery players that post here say they liked Lotto Georgia better than Lotto South.  The only negative I can find with Lotto Georgia is that it only had 1 draw per week.  But with the odds of winning much, much better than Lotto South, and having roughly the same size jackpots, I personally wouldn't mind if they went back to using Lotto Georgia again.

            Just my opinion.

             

            Somebody should do a comparison of the largest Lotto Virginia jackpot v the largest LS jackpot. To me it just didn't make sense for LS to have the same jackpot odds as one of the games it replaced.

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              Guys, if the problem is the jackpot of the game, then the easy solution would be to just move the draw days so the game does not compete with powerball or mega millions for the players' dollars.  The easiest way to do so is by holding drawings on mondyas and thursdays.

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                Guys, if the problem is the jackpot of the game, then the easy solution would be to just move the draw days so the game does not compete with powerball or mega millions for the players' dollars.  The easiest way to do so is by holding drawings on mondyas and thursdays.




                I don't think moving the drawings to Mon-Thu is working for Unlucky for Life. If sales for LS were to go up with the way the game is now, the 6/49 matrix would be especially small.