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hypersoniq's avatar - 8ball
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Posted: November 27, 2005, 2:40 pm - IP Logged

ok, neither WV or DE have sunday drawings... and WV has no mid-day

would it be better to just stick with PA?

Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

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    Posted: November 27, 2005, 2:44 pm - IP Logged

    Hypersonig -

     

    Thanks I was looking for the state that mirrored West Virginia. 

     

     

     

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      Posted: November 27, 2005, 2:49 pm - IP Logged

      added conditional formatting to backtest mirror hits in the next draw...

      2005 results

      1. Mid-Day No hits, plenty of 1 and 2 numbers but no hits

      2. Eve. 1 straight hit. 3/25 draw was 583, which mirrors to 038... 038 was the 3/26 draw!

      wow, even if I just played the mirror number for the next draw eve for $1 straight I would be ahead for the year... I am liking this so far. I wouldn't play the mid-day regardless because I am boycotting PA computer draws (mid3 and mid4 day)

      tntea, we're only in the 102 stage and already you are hanging in there with backtesting WTG!

      Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.


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        Posted: November 27, 2005, 4:35 pm - IP Logged

        Ok..I just found this....

                        GA mid     GA Vtrac
        11/23/05    566          v122
        11/24/05    590          v151
        11/25/05   587          v143
        11/26/05    385          v441

        Missing vtrac 2
        2 last seen with 21
        1 last seen with 44

        Strings to play
        244/422 112/221 411/441 124

        Now I made a list of the exchange/mirrors
        566 011  v for 011 = v122
        590 045  v for 045 = v151
        587 043  v for 043 = v154
        385 830  v for 830 = v441
        Now by looking above..I see that 2 strings I am saying to play have each hit twice in the last 4 days..the 2 are v122 and 441

        I am still not sure if I have the correct strings in play or not...I may not be fully understanding this "last seen with" info..I have reread all 3 threads 4 times...lol..I will do so again, til I get it right..

        Am I close or at least on the right track??

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          Posted: November 27, 2005, 5:01 pm - IP Logged

          added conditional formatting to backtest mirror hits in the next draw...

          2005 results

          1. Mid-Day No hits, plenty of 1 and 2 numbers but no hits

          2. Eve. 1 straight hit. 3/25 draw was 583, which mirrors to 038... 038 was the 3/26 draw!

          wow, even if I just played the mirror number for the next draw eve for $1 straight I would be ahead for the year... I am liking this so far. I wouldn't play the mid-day regardless because I am boycotting PA computer draws (mid3 and mid4 day)

          tntea, we're only in the 102 stage and already you are hanging in there with backtesting WTG!

          Total draws for Arizona Pick3 : 2313
          Straight mirror hits : 2
          Boxed mirror hits : 4  (doubles: 4)
          Cost to play ($2/draw) : $4626
          Retrieved : $3000
          -------------------------------
          - $1626

           

          Total draws for California Daily 3 : 2700
          Straight mirror hits : 2
          Boxed mirror hits : 15  (doubles: 0)
          Cost to play ($2/draw) : $5400
          Retrieved : $4050
          -------------------------------
          - $1350

          Total draws for Georgia Cash3 (evening, only 2005) : 331
          Straight mirror hits : 0
          Boxed mirror hits : 0  (doubles: 0)
          Cost to play ($2/draw) : $662
          Retrieved : $0
          -------------------------------
          - $662

           

          Total draws for Georgia Midday 3 (only 2005) : 284
          Straight mirror hits : 0
          Boxed mirror hits : 2  (doubles: 2)
          Cost to play ($2/draw) : $568
          Retrieved : $600
          -------------------------------
          + $32

           

          Total draws for Illinois daily 3 Eve : 3225
          Straight mirror hits : 2
          Boxed mirror hits : 15  (doubles: 0)
          Cost to play ($2/draw) : $6450
          Retrieved : $4050
          -------------------------------
          - $2400

           

          Total draws for Illinois midday 3 : 2765
          Straight mirror hits : 5
          Boxed mirror hits : 19  (doubles: 0)
          Cost to play ($2/draw) : $5530
          Retrieved : $7350
          -------------------------------
          + $1820

           

          Total draws for New York midday : 1453
          Straight mirror hits : 2
          Boxed mirror hits : 11  (doubles: 0)
          Cost to play ($2/draw) : $2906
          Retrieved : $3450
          -------------------------------
          + $544

           

          Total draws for New York numbers : 2694
          Straight mirror hits : 3
          Boxed mirror hits : 8  (doubles: 8)
          Cost to play ($2/draw) : $5388
          Retrieved : $5100
          -------------------------------
          - $288

           

          Total draws for Pennsylvania Daily number : 2700
          Straight mirror hits : 3
          Boxed mirror hits : 18  (doubles: 0)
          Cost to play ($2/draw) : $5400
          Retrieved : $5400
          -------------------------------
          $0

           

          Total draws for Pennsylvania Midday : 1021
          Straight mirror hits : 2
          Boxed mirror hits : 5  (doubles: 0)
          Cost to play ($2/draw) : $2042
          Retrieved : $2550
          -------------------------------
          + $508

           

          Total draws for South Carolina Midday 3 : 754
          Straight mirror hits : 0
          Boxed mirror hits : 3  (doubles: 0)
          Cost to play ($2/draw) : $1508
          Retrieved : $450
          -------------------------------
          - $1058

           

          Total draws for South Carolina Pick3 : 1362
          Straight mirror hits : 2
          Boxed mirror hits : 8  (doubles: 0)
          Cost to play ($2/draw) : $2724
          Retrieved : $3000
          -------------------------------
          + $276

           

          Total draws for Virginia midday 3 : 2315
          Straight mirror hits : 1
          Boxed mirror hits : 19  (doubles: 0)
          Cost to play ($2/draw) : $4630
          Retrieved : $3750
          -------------------------------
          - $880

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            Posted: November 27, 2005, 7:42 pm - IP Logged

            wow paurths, nice data to have!

            PA evening seems a bit light on draws(@2700)...
            I stopped tracking pick3 in PA eve 7/25/2004....

            from inception (3/1/1977) until 7/25/2004 there were 9,357 draws.

            I will eventually backtest against all of 'em, but tntea isn't done with the lessons just yet.

            also they had an area after 7/25/04 where they had a "bonus draw" on the same night if a green ball came up.... that lasted a few months and I need to add all of that data yet.

            Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

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              Posted: November 27, 2005, 7:53 pm - IP Logged

              wow paurths, nice data to have!

              PA evening seems a bit light on draws(@2700)...
              I stopped tracking pick3 in PA eve 7/25/2004....

              from inception (3/1/1977) until 7/25/2004 there were 9,357 draws.

              I will eventually backtest against all of 'em, but tntea isn't done with the lessons just yet.

              also they had an area after 7/25/04 where they had a "bonus draw" on the same night if a green ball came up.... that lasted a few months and I need to add all of that data yet.

              I don't have all the drawings, i know.
              Not all official sites offer a download-possibility that is somewhat "workable" before importing it into my database.
              If it's too much trouble, i get the draws from another place, but it only goes back until 1998.

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                Posted: November 27, 2005, 8:28 pm - IP Logged

                Tntea,

                Once you start playing a string(s), how long do you play it for? 5 days, 7 days?  or do you do new calculations after each drawing?

                Since no major change was made with the double vtrac return..  I will continue to play the string on the next draw..

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                  Posted: November 27, 2005, 8:29 pm - IP Logged

                  I did a little LP search and found this list, attributed to adolph's forum, research credits to Laverne...

                  Travelling Number Mirror States:

                  IOWA =  MAINE 
                  IOWA =  OREGON         
                  OHIO  =    NEW YORK
                  VERMONT  =  ONTARIO
                  KANSAS  =    IDAHO
                  TEXAS  = QUEBEC  or KENTUCKY
                  MAINE  =  KENTUCKY
                  OREGON = FLORIDA
                  MONTANA  =  KENTUCKY
                  NEW YORK  = ARIZONA
                  ONTARIO  =  MARYLAND
                  IDAHO  =  FLORIDA or MISSOURI
                  QUEBEC  =  MISSOURI
                  KENTUCKY  =  ILLINOIS
                  ARIZONA  =  INDIANA
                  MARYLAND  =  MINNESOTA
                  FLORIDA  =    NEW JERSEY
                  MISSOURI  =  TRI-STATE
                  NEBRASKA  =  GEORGIA
                  ILLINOIS  =  GEORGIA
                  INDIANA  =  VIRGINIA
                  MINNESOTA  =  DELAWARE
                  NEW JERSEY  =  WISCONSIN
                  TRI-STATE  =  LOUISIANA
                  GEORGIA  =  NEW MEXICO
                  VIRGINIA  =  MICHIGAN
                  DELAWARE  =  PENNSYLVANIA
                  WISCONSIN  =  WASHINGTON
                  LOUISIANA  =  CALIFORNIA
                  NEW MEXICO  =  CONNECTICUT
                  MICHIGAN    =  SOUTH CAROLINA
                  PENNSYLVANIA  =  WEST VIRGINIA
                  WASHINGTON  =    WASHINGTON DC
                  CALIFORNIA  =  NEW  HAMPSHIRE
                  CONNECTICUT = MASSACHUSETTS
                  CONNECTICUT  =    WEST CANADA
                  SOUTH CAROLINA  =  BRITISH COLUMBIA
                  WEST VIRGINIA  =    IOWA
                  WASHINGTON DC  =  OHIO
                  NEW HAMPSHIRE  =  KANSAS
                  MASSACHUSETTS  =  OREGON
                  WESTERN CANADA    =  TEXAS
                  BRITISH COLUMBIA    =  MAINE

                  I might use that for a start...

                  I Have printed this and will check it out myself..

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                    Posted: November 27, 2005, 8:30 pm - IP Logged

                    ok, neither WV or DE have sunday drawings... and WV has no mid-day

                    would it be better to just stick with PA?

                    You are going to basically observe what comes out a fews prior to your state.. it doesn't matter if they have a day off..

                    TX has Sunday off but provides me with info on TN picks

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                      Posted: November 27, 2005, 10:17 pm - IP Logged

                      wow paurths, nice data to have!

                      PA evening seems a bit light on draws(@2700)...
                      I stopped tracking pick3 in PA eve 7/25/2004....

                      from inception (3/1/1977) until 7/25/2004 there were 9,357 draws.

                      I will eventually backtest against all of 'em, but tntea isn't done with the lessons just yet.

                      also they had an area after 7/25/04 where they had a "bonus draw" on the same night if a green ball came up.... that lasted a few months and I need to add all of that data yet.

                      I don't have all the drawings, i know.
                      Not all official sites offer a download-possibility that is somewhat "workable" before importing it into my database.
                      If it's too much trouble, i get the draws from another place, but it only goes back until 1998.

                      I pulled data from PA's site one year at a time, then simply pasted it into excel, sorted by date ascending, cleaned up the formatting, and it was ready for export/"save as" to any type of file (including CSV, for database import)

                      17 years (at the time) in under 10 minutes ;-)

                      I am still updating the entire list to date, I am wondering if MS access might be a better choice... or at least maintain an access DB along with the excel sheets...

                      Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

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                        Posted: November 27, 2005, 10:39 pm - IP Logged

                        wow paurths, nice data to have!

                        PA evening seems a bit light on draws(@2700)...
                        I stopped tracking pick3 in PA eve 7/25/2004....

                        from inception (3/1/1977) until 7/25/2004 there were 9,357 draws.

                        I will eventually backtest against all of 'em, but tntea isn't done with the lessons just yet.

                        also they had an area after 7/25/04 where they had a "bonus draw" on the same night if a green ball came up.... that lasted a few months and I need to add all of that data yet.

                        I don't have all the drawings, i know.
                        Not all official sites offer a download-possibility that is somewhat "workable" before importing it into my database.
                        If it's too much trouble, i get the draws from another place, but it only goes back until 1998.

                        I pulled data from PA's site one year at a time, then simply pasted it into excel, sorted by date ascending, cleaned up the formatting, and it was ready for export/"save as" to any type of file (including CSV, for database import)

                        17 years (at the time) in under 10 minutes ;-)

                        I am still updating the entire list to date, I am wondering if MS access might be a better choice... or at least maintain an access DB along with the excel sheets...

                        I could use some lessons on that...

                         

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                          Posted: November 27, 2005, 10:51 pm - IP Logged

                          ok, neither WV or DE have sunday drawings... and WV has no mid-day

                          would it be better to just stick with PA?

                          You are going to basically observe what comes out a fews prior to your state.. it doesn't matter if they have a day off..

                          TX has Sunday off but provides me with info on TN picks

                          then I guess I will add DE... WV having no mid-day at all seems a bigger hurdle than every 7th day off...right?

                          actually DE has no sunday MID draw... tricky import, but now I have a version that has PA and mirror DE... If requesting a copy, please specify single state (Still PA, just change numbers), 1 mirror state (PA and DE, again just change numbers) or both.

                          I don't plan on doing multi-state mirrors, it's too hard to see in excel... I'll leave that to the hearty pencil and paper crew!

                          Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

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                            Quote tntea:
                            "I could use some lessons on that..."

                            pulling draw data from state websites? anytime... we all owe you big!

                            I never hesitate to give back to the LP community with excel when I can... I learned ALOT about excel here in the forums. there are a bunch of tech-savvy excel wizards on the LP doing some very creative things, and I thank them all for what I have gained skill-wise.

                            Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

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                              Posted: November 27, 2005, 11:05 pm - IP Logged

                              hmm here is an interesting observation
                              last night in PA, a251 (v312)
                              tonight in DE, a206 (v312)

                              my goodness, I think have seen my first travelling vtrac! is that right tntea?

                              Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

                                 
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