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Posted: December 11, 2005, 12:05 pm - IP Logged

What if I play 800 sets every time, doesn't that mean I have an 80 percent chance of winning $900.00 whenever I play that way? As opposed to winning $500.00, and losing every single time by $300.00?

Even if I lose with the 900.00, Covering 800 numbers seems to me that it kinda gives me a little extra edge, don't you think? Gettting it right 8 out of 10 times.

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    Posted: December 11, 2005, 12:14 pm - IP Logged

    The odds are better online with the 900:1 payout. But like you said, you have an 80% chance. As long as you don't have an even chance or better, they have the edge.

    The game people have an edge when they pay 900:1 or anything less than $1000
    It is a "fair" game when they pay 1000:1
    You have the edge when they pay 1001:1 or anything over $1000


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      Posted: December 11, 2005, 12:15 pm - IP Logged

      Supposing I sat back and didn't play those 800 numbers for 3 or 4 days, and just watched. Suppose Those 800 numbers didn't hit those 3 or 4 days in a row ( even with an 80 percent edge ), wouldn't it make sense to play on the fifth or so day and plop down $8000.00 on 800 sets of numbers with full confidence, that since it was out so long that I could easily net $1000.00?

      Not a bad pay day for one day.

      Then sit back and do the same as before. Even if was out just two days, I would probably bet on the third, considering I have an 80 percent edge.

        truecritic's avatar - PirateTreasure
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        Posted: December 11, 2005, 12:34 pm - IP Logged

        For the sake of argument, OK - say you win everytime you play, for the rest of your life - you have then beat a negative expectation game. But you can't, by definition change the fact that they have the edge.



        On the other hand, the jackpot games can and do become positive expectation games when the jackpot exceeds the the odds for that game. BUT, it does not make it any easier to win!

        Unless you buy all of the possible combinations!


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          Posted: December 11, 2005, 12:42 pm - IP Logged

          Here's exactly what I'm talking about. This is the last 30 days in the Florida cash-3. The numbers in red are numbers from 800 thru 999. Those are the numbers to look for and wait for them to run for three days in a row, then play 000 thru 799.

          I would play 000 thru 799, only on the days that are qualifiers. Playing $10.00 a number for the total amount of $8000.00 ( When I built a bankroll over time to come up with that kinda cash). Netting me $1000.00. I can make a living off of this in no time.

          826

          079

          874

          037

          578

          527

          289

          643

          513

          934

          950

          094

          636

          660

          442

          068

          672

          695

          990

          911

          226

          560

          753

          608

          953

          120

          103

          286

          394

          418

          290

          As you can see there are only two instances where no more than 2 higher numbers 800 thru 999 come out in a row. I want to wait for three to make sure. I'll have to go back even farther to see how many times and how many three sets or two sets in 800-999 there are. But you get the idea.

          I personally wouldn't play on those two instances above, because of the amount of money involved, But if I look for 3 in a row and see that is the norm, looking back, let's say a year, then I would be confident in using that and making money.

          Well I just looked back another 30 days and saw only 2 day in a row, only once in the entire 30 days. Maybe 2 is the norm.

          will have to look for a year and get back with the findings.

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            Posted: December 11, 2005, 12:56 pm - IP Logged

            For the sake of argument, OK - say you win everytime you play, for the rest of your life - you have then beat a negative expectation game. But you can't, by definition change the fact that they have the edge.



            On the other hand, the jackpot games can and do become positive expectation games when the jackpot exceeds the the odds for that game. BUT, it does not make it any easier to win!

            Unless you buy all of the possible combinations!


            I do not see how one can win one state every day.. I win daily , only because I play different states with the vtracs.. So I can count on a hit each draw..  I have missed hits by not playing certain states because not too sure of vtracs and they were requiring more than two strings.. (which is  $4 to $6) investment.. (that is a limit for me) .. If I go over that.. sometimes after the hit.. the profit is only $20 for the day.. so it is not worth it for me...  Sometimes after the hit.. if I play more than 2 strings.. the profit isnt there... I am out $4-$8 bucks..

            Now if you lose say the average.. $6 bucks a draw on this game.. that is $84 a week... WOW... not me..

            So I dont remain with only one state..

            some talk about beating the system.. Well they are wrong.  The Cash 3 cannot be broken to know the exact pick for the next day in one state.

            Yes you can watch it for 20 years and know that XXX number will fall the next day.. but it is really hard to predict which state every time..

            And it is impossible to predict what CA will get each and every draw...

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              Posted: December 11, 2005, 12:59 pm - IP Logged

              pac - very interesting scenario and experiment. It's almost like the "overdue" factor that many of us play. If you waited, say for 2 draws in which 800-999 hit in a row, then you could load the boat up on the 3rd day. I would be interested to see how these numbers work out. Check out all states on that and see how it does

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                Posted: December 11, 2005, 1:06 pm - IP Logged

                For the sake of argument, OK - say you win everytime you play, for the rest of your life - you have then beat a negative expectation game. But you can't, by definition change the fact that they have the edge.



                On the other hand, the jackpot games can and do become positive expectation games when the jackpot exceeds the the odds for that game. BUT, it does not make it any easier to win!

                Unless you buy all of the possible combinations!


                I do not see how one can win one state every day.. I win daily , only because I play different states with the vtracs.. So I can count on a hit each draw..  I have missed hits by not playing certain states because not too sure of vtracs and they were requiring more than two strings.. (which is  $4 to $6) investment.. (that is a limit for me) .. If I go over that.. sometimes after the hit.. the profit is only $20 for the day.. so it is not worth it for me...  Sometimes after the hit.. if I play more than 2 strings.. the profit isnt there... I am out $4-$8 bucks..

                Now if you lose say the average.. $6 bucks a draw on this game.. that is $84 a week... WOW... not me..

                So I dont remain with only one state..

                some talk about beating the system.. Well they are wrong.  The Cash 3 cannot be broken to know the exact pick for the next day in one state.

                Yes you can watch it for 20 years and know that XXX number will fall the next day.. but it is really hard to predict which state every time..

                And it is impossible to predict what CA will get each and every draw...

                What?I don't think anybody claimed to predict every state, every draw, every day.  I thought the argument was whether you had a system that was profitable for you and if you do, that beats the system.

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                  Posted: December 11, 2005, 1:07 pm - IP Logged

                  pac - very interesting scenario and experiment. It's almost like the "overdue" factor that many of us play. If you waited, say for 2 draws in which 800-999 hit in a row, then you could load the boat up on the 3rd day. I would be interested to see how these numbers work out. Check out all states on that and see how it does

                  I'm waiting for powerplayer to get home from work. Somehow he can whip up alot of info in minutes. It would take me three days to look up all that info.

                  I will however get started on my state in Florida to get an idea.

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                    pac - very interesting scenario and experiment. It's almost like the "overdue" factor that many of us play. If you waited, say for 2 draws in which 800-999 hit in a row, then you could load the boat up on the 3rd day. I would be interested to see how these numbers work out. Check out all states on that and see how it does

                    I'm waiting for powerplayer to get home from work. Somehow he can whip up alot of info in minutes. It would take me three days to look up all that info.

                    I will however get started on my state in Florida to get an idea.

                    Are you suggesting to play all combo from  800 --999 when they have been out for a few days?

                    Are you applying the vtracs method to the quest.. or basically going by the draws?

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                      Posted: December 11, 2005, 2:01 pm - IP Logged

                      No, I wait for 800-999 to show for a couple of days and then play 000-799 the next.

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                        No, I wait for 800-999 to show for a couple of days and then play 000-799 the next.

                        Wow...  Wow...

                         

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                          Here's what I saw for the last year for Florida:

                          Dec. 10 2004 thru Jan 9 2004: 3 in a row....2 in a row.....2 in a row

                          Jan. 10 2005 thru feb. 9 2005: No qualifiers.

                          Feb 10 2005 thru march 8 2005: No qualifiers.

                          Mar. 9 2005 thru Apr. 9 2005: 3 in a row.

                          Apr. 10 2005 thru May. 9 2005: 2 in a row.

                          May 10 2005 thru June 9 2005: No qualifiers.

                          Jun. 10 2005 thru Jul. 2005: No qualifiers.

                          Jul. 10 2005 thru Aug 9 2005: 2 in a row.

                          Aug 10 2005 thru Sept. 9 2005: No qualifiers.

                          Sept 10 2005 thru Oct. 2005: No qualifiers.

                          Oct. 10 2005 thru Nov. 9 2005: 2 in a row.

                           Nov. 10 2005 thru Dec. 9 2005: 2 in a row.......2 in a row.

                          Totals for 3 in a row: 2 times, about 4 months apart.

                          Totals for 2 in a row: 7 times, speratic.

                          Totals for no qualifiers: 6 time, speratic.

                          It's obvious that sticking with the 2 in a row is not recommended, because I would be in the hole by $9000.00. at the end of the year. Those two that came out as 3 in a row would have ruined my days.

                          On the other hand, there are not enough 3 in a rows to make it profitable. That is the only way I would spend that kind of money, when it's a sure thing. Winning only twice in one year isn't much to brag about. That's only $2000.00, divded by 52 weeks=$38.00 a week, net profit.

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                              Posted: December 11, 2005, 5:37 pm - IP Logged

                              Will Tennesse be up for it tonight? Chair

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                              TNs got 4 lows in the past 4 night's drawing. Cross your toes, your eyes, and your T's. LOL

                               

                                 
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