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Will you boycott if no cash option?

Yes

[ 8 ]

[ 26.7% ]

[ 19 ]

[ 63.3% ]

Maybe

[ 3 ]

[ 10.0% ]

Total valid votes

[ 30 ]

Discarded votes

[ 2 ]

LotteryPlayer

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Jan 7, 2006, 4:28 am

A tri-state game and the cash option is only $520,000? That's pathetic.

I would MUCH rather have Lotto Georgia than this junk.

You need two things for a good mid-tier 6-number lottery game, IMO:

1. reasonable odds
2. nice size jackpot (i.e., above $1 million)

They've failed to meet the second requirement. This game is barely better than a 5-number game.

Let's be honest here. This change is being made for one reason: so the lottery commissions can make more money at the expense of the lottery players. They win more, we win less. They've decided to just throw a bunch of small prizes at us, hoping that it'll distract us from noticing how small the jackpot is.

Anyone else agree with me here, or do ya'll like this decision?

Someone posted earlier that maybe Georgia will have this game AND bring back Lotto Georgia. I certainly hope so! (although, I doubt it)
LOTTOMIKE

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Jan 7, 2006, 4:42 am

Quote: Originally posted by LotteryPlayer on January 7, 2006
A tri-state game and the cash option is only $520,000? That's pathetic.

I would MUCH rather have Lotto Georgia than this junk.

You need two things for a good mid-tier 6-number lottery game, IMO:

1. reasonable odds
2. nice size jackpot (i.e., above $1 million)

They've failed to meet the second requirement. This game is barely better than a 5-number game.

Let's be honest here. This change is being made for one reason: so the lottery commissions can make more money at the expense of the lottery players. They win more, we win less. They've decided to just throw a bunch of small prizes at us, hoping that it'll distract us from noticing how small the jackpot is.

Anyone else agree with me here, or do ya'll like this decision?

Someone posted earlier that maybe Georgia will have this game AND bring back Lotto Georgia. I certainly hope so! (although, I doubt it)
they should've just kept lotto south instead of this new game because it is not going to last.i'm with you they should just bring back lotto georgia.if not at least leave lotto south alone.in my opinion lotto south wasn't that bad of a game.........
DoubleDown

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Jan 7, 2006, 12:11 pm

I agree Lotto South wasn't really that bad of a game, but it sure didn't sell a lot of tickets outside of GA.
GA should have kept it and renamed it Georgia Lotto or something like that.
The win for life game to me is gimmicky.
LotteryPlayer

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Jan 7, 2006, 3:31 pm

LOTTOMIKE:
I agree. I like Lotto South. I'd be happy with Lotto Georgia or Lotto South, because both have nice size jackpots (both start at $2 million).
DoubleDown:
You're absolutely right, DD, this new game certainly is gimmicky. And it has to be, because the state lotteries are trying to fool lottery players into playing this game.
The cash option for this game, $520,000, is an absolute joke, and the state lotteries know it. The average cash value of a Lotto South jackpot is $4 to $5 million. But what's even more absurd is that the cash value of this ridiculous new tri-state game is smaller than the average cash value of the old state lotto games (the cash value of Lotto Georgia started at $1 million).
I also think it's laughable that 3 states are forming a game that can barely produce a jackpot that is bigger than a 5-number game in 1 state (GA's Fantasy 5). So why should people play this WinForLife game, when the odds of winning a 5-number game are 10 times easier (WinForLife's odds are 1 in 5,245,786 while Fantasy 5's odds are only 1 in 575,757).
And finally, here's a quote from the Virginia Lottery 4 years ago, explaining why they were changing Lotto Virginia to Lotto South for the bigger jackpots: ''A million dollars just isn't what it used to be.''
After taxes, the cash value of this new WinForLife game will only be about $350,000, barely one-third of a million dollars.
CASH Only

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Jan 7, 2006, 4:18 pm

The cash value of the WA scratch game Lucky for Life is $750,000. Its regular prize also is $1000/week.
Sherwin

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Jan 7, 2006, 4:40 pm

The Lottery is always looking for ways to generate more revenue. In this case, it will attempt to exploit its loyal players in the process. Virginia is taking a step in the wrong direction. Our neighbor (North Carolina) is about to get Powerball.
JimmySand9

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Jan 7, 2006, 5:58 pm

I think they should have revitalized Lotto South with a WinFall concept or and all-cash jackpot, maybe bigger lower tier prizes. LS could have held it's own, but has to set itself apart, and the forces that be would rather not give it the chance.

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LOTTOMIKE

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Jan 7, 2006, 6:17 pm

here lies

               lotto south
               2001-2006

            "gone but not forgotten"
MrBobb

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Jan 9, 2006, 12:11 pm

Quote: Originally posted by LotteryPlayer on January 7, 2006
A tri-state game and the cash option is only $520,000? That's pathetic.

I would MUCH rather have Lotto Georgia than this junk.

You need two things for a good mid-tier 6-number lottery game, IMO:

1. reasonable odds
2. nice size jackpot (i.e., above $1 million)

They've failed to meet the second requirement. This game is barely better than a 5-number game.

Let's be honest here. This change is being made for one reason: so the lottery commissions can make more money at the expense of the lottery players. They win more, we win less. They've decided to just throw a bunch of small prizes at us, hoping that it'll distract us from noticing how small the jackpot is.

Anyone else agree with me here, or do ya'll like this decision?

Someone posted earlier that maybe Georgia will have this game AND bring back Lotto Georgia. I certainly hope so! (although, I doubt it)

As I've stated numerous times in the forum,^* I would much rather see the return of Lotto Georgia in it's original format.

You are right about the WFL game being barely better than a 5-number game. In fact, it may reduce Fantasy 5 sales. My fear is that, if this game generates a large amount of sales initially, the GLC will consider shutting down Fantasy 5 as well.

I said earlier that I would spend some of my lottery budget on the WFL game IF the GLC also brought back Lotto Georgia, but if they were to also eliminate Fantasy 5, I'd just play some Lotto Georgia and spend more on TN Lotto 5 and FL Fantasy 5. I sincerely believe that the GLC would do better in the long term by bringing back Lotto Georgia.

^*( I'm not trying to annoy LP members by bringing this up often, I'm just hoping that GLC officials are taking note -- surely they read Lottery Post! And the squeaky wheel gets the grease, right?! )

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konane

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Jan 9, 2006, 12:36 pm

Bottom line I have trusted friends in other states.
If the WFL game is not to my liking or if they shut down Georgia Fantasy 5 then will happily have friends out of state fatten their lotteries with my discretionary lottery dollars.

Have fun and the best of luck to everyone!
tony95

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Jan 9, 2006, 1:22 pm

I my opinion they should have added TN to Lotto South and it would have really taken off! After learning the rules/odds/payoff you would have to be a damn fool to play WFL.
konane

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Jan 9, 2006, 1:32 pm

Does anyone have information as to how much Win For Life tickets are going to cost per play?

Have fun and the best of luck to everyone!
MrBobb

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Jan 9, 2006, 3:41 pm

Quote: Originally posted by konane on January 9, 2006
Does anyone have information as to how much Win For Life tickets are going to cost per play?

I just got off the phone with a representative of the Kentucky Lottery and she told me that Win For Life would be drawn exactly like Lotto South and that tickets will cost $1.00 per play.

I would have called GA, but they have that pesky 900 number for out-of-state folks. I did email GLC via their web site to ask those questions - I'll let you know if I receive a reply.

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CASH Only

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Jan 12, 2006, 8:05 pm

Quote: Originally posted by DoubleDown on January 6, 2006
I voted NO. Boycott might be a bit strong...
By the way, there WILL be a cash option choice according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution today.
The cash option is a lump sum of $520,000.
DD
Oh, and if I don't like another member's opinion, I do not have to respond.
Today the GA lottery e-mailed me and told me GA _will_not_ offer a cash option. Either the cash option is up to each state, or it's a false rumor.
DoubleDown

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Jan 12, 2006, 10:25 pm

Quote: Originally posted by CASH Only on January 12, 2006
Quote: Originally posted by DoubleDown on January 6, 2006
I voted NO. Boycott might be a bit strong...
By the way, there WILL be a cash option choice according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution today.
The cash option is a lump sum of $520,000.
DD
Oh, and if I don't like another member's opinion, I do not have to respond.
Today the GA lottery e-mailed me and told me GA _will_not_ offer a cash option. Either the cash option is up to each state, or it's a false rumor.
Ruh Roh....
If they do not offer a cash option, then lose for life will never ever ever see any money from DD.

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